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A point to ponder and discuss

Michael Cole said:
You don't speak truth. That's sometimes entertaining, but it never bothers me. Your self-deluded posts are your problem. Why would they bother me?
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Maybe because you complain so much.
 
Logical1 said:
Just google the question. The answer is 60+%.
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The irony being that if you'd Googled the question, you'd have found some answers to it as well. So, did you get the 60% from a secondary source that didn't include on the narrative around it for some reason or did you get it from a source that did include the narrative but chose to ignore it for some reason?

You also didn't have anything to discuss on any of the actual comments I made? When you raise a question in a thread, the assumption is that you want to have a discussion about it. Or could it be that you don't actually want a discussion, you just want validation for your predetermined conclusion.

Multiracial in America: Proud, Diverse and Growing in Numbers | Pew Research Center
Study illuminates why multiracial Americans almost never call themselves white - Vox
 
bluesmoke said:
Why is it that most biracial (black and white) people are viewed/treated as black?
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I think the answer to that question is because all biracial black people identify with being black. Have you ever met a person of mixed race who looks to be black claim that they were white. Other than a few who try to pass as white to gain an advantage it just doesn't happen.
 
Da Mole said:
I think the answer to that question is because all biracial black people identify with being black. Have you ever met a person of mixed race who looks to be black claim that they were white.
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Biracial people don't look black, they look biracial. :cool: You're only saying they look black because you're working on the socially ingrained assumption that any significant proportion of "darkness" means the person is black. If a biracial person you consider looks black said they were white, you'd just laugh at them so they really don't have a choice regardless of what they might want.
 
HonestJoe said:
Biracial people don't look black, they look biracial. :cool: You're only saying they look black because you're working on the socially ingrained assumption that any significant proportion of "darkness" means the person is black. If a biracial person you consider looks black said they were white, you'd just laugh at them so they really don't have a choice regardless of what they might want.
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Would you prefer "darkies?"

Seriously. I work with a diverse group. The guy of Pakistani descent is much darker than the Hispanic/AA bi-racial guy. The first guy says he's middle-eastern. The second guy says he's black.

I have no problem understanding this, especially since I'm not trying to psychoanalyze a simple post.
 
HonestJoe said:
I'd question what you're basing the "most" on. Maybe you're just noticing those people more. You're also ignoring all the mixed race people for whom "black" isn't any part of that mix.

I suspect the pattern would be identification with the "foreign" aspect of their heritage rather than specifically the "black" side. You'd need to look at how mixed race people in other parts of the world behave to properly consider that.

On the "white privilege" issue, that has little to do with how a person identifies themselves but how they're perceived by others. Anyone visibly mixed race is generally never going to be treated as "white" in America and so couldn't benefit from any elements of "white privilege" that actually exist even if they wanted to.
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I think based on casual observation, "most" seems correct. I'd attribute this in large amount to most "biracial" people seem to be dark skin an cannot "pass" as white. I also think is may have to do with family culture and rate of divorce in mixed marriages with black white being 1.62 times more likely for divorce. Seems black skinned folks hang with black skinned folks, white with white, hispanic with hispanic, asian with asian to a large decree. This is more true in the black culture it appears.
 
HonestJoe said:
Biracial people don't look black, they look biracial. :cool: You're only saying they look black because you're working on the socially ingrained assumption that any significant proportion of "darkness" means the person is black. If a biracial person you consider looks black said they were white, you'd just laugh at them so they really don't have a choice regardless of what they might want.
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Fine, if the result of a biracial union (black and white) is a person that looks biracial and NOT black, then that person should have no trouble identifying as white over biracial but they never do. They choose not to be white.
 
Logical1 said:
Why is it that most biracial citizens identify with the black side of their heritage? Could it be that there is no advantage of being white, and white privilege is a myth.

An example would be Obama.
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If you look up the "one-drop rule" you'll have your answer. Unsurprisingly, it was a racist policy to make sure biracial people didn't get mixed in with white people.
 
Da Mole said:
Fine, if the result of a biracial union (black and white) is a person that looks biracial and NOT black, then that person should have no trouble identifying as white over biracial but they never do. They choose not to be white.
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You're missing the point. It isn't just about how an individual wants to identify themselves, how other people perceive them will be just as significant (in practical terms, much more so). The entire society (certainly in the US) perceives biracial people as black and always has done. Black and biracial people are just as influenced by those social norms as anyone else.

This boils down to the classic problem. We have general socio-political problems but our human instinct is to blame "them" rather than "us".
 
Da Mole said:
I think the answer to that question is because all biracial black people identify with being black. Have you ever met a person of mixed race who looks to be black claim that they were white. Other than a few who try to pass as white to gain an advantage it just doesn't happen.
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The OP was dumb. The opening question was dumb. So I asked dumb, though pertinent and telling, question as my response to a dumb question.
 
bluesmoke said:
The OP was dumb. The opening question was dumb. So I asked dumb, though pertinent and telling, question as my response to a dumb question.
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Why is it dumb??? Many these days could pass for white, but they DONT!!!! It proves they really dont believe in white supremacy when push come to shove. Saying so is just radical left wing BS!!!!!
 
Aurora said:
They look black.
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That's my point to make obvious the OP did not take into account in the opening question. I'm just guessing every reader knew the obvious, as did you, except the OP.
 
Logical1 said:
Why is it dumb??? Many these days could pass for white, but they DONT!!!! It proves they really dont believe in white supremacy when push come to shove. Saying so is just radical left wing BS!!!!!
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I already explained. So did a number of other posters. Repeatedly. Your posts are dumb (ignorant), illogical and nonsense. See you on another thread.
 
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