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91-year-old man beaten with brick, told 'go back to Mexico'

Captain Adverse said:
Strange for such reports, the race of the attackers is usually mentioned...but not in this case. I wonder why?

Here is another report posted today (07/10/18):

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2018/07/10/91-year-old-man-beaten-with-brick/

Again, no mention of the alleged race of any of the attackers, although we already have a Forum member claiming they must be "Trumpist" xenophobes. This despite the fact, according to the victim, the men thought he was trying to abduct a child. We don't know why the woman acted as she did initially, we are informed she told the men were he was abducting her child, and the allegation is the attack occurred because the woman thought he was an illegal immigrant.

While this incident is bad, and the gentleman seems to have been an innocent victim...I would like to see more evidence of the incident before committing to a blanket "hate crime" scenario.

BTW, who was videoing him without helping him up? That seems fairly insensitive to me.
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No they should be arrested and put in jail.
If you think someone is abducting someone then you call the police.

only if you see them with the child would a course of action be to go after them.
you don't get to assault someone based on the word of someone else.
 
Ikari said:
That it is. We're getting a little more and more violent these days, left and right, and little more extreme, left and right. Trump has divided this country like never before in modern times. Just awful.
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Any rational person would see that the division, incivility, and devolving of society began long before Trump.
 
j-mac said:
Any rational person would see that the division, incivility, and devolving of society began long before Trump.
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The slide into the hyperpartisan craphole we are in certainly did start before Trump. But no one exacerbated it quite like.
 
cuban smokes said:
welcome to TrumpMerca, where you too can help to Make America White Again ........
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except that the attackers were black not white.
you should read more and be more informed.
 
Kal'Stang said:
According to witnesses she had run up to a bunch of guys and claimed that the old man attempted to kidnap her child. Laughable scenario for an old man to attempt a daylight kidnapping with the mom right next to the child. In any case, this still doesn't fit the narrative that so many in this thread have that this has to do with Trump. So they're ignoring it. This is evidenced by the fact that this account was even relayed in the very first post's linked article.
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what is even worse is that the OP nor anyone else in this thread that have been ranting and raving about it will come out and say they were wrong.
I think there is something more to this story than what is out there but these people should be found and arrested no doubt about it.
 
Racists escalate until they are stopped.
 
Are blacks ever charged with hate crimes? Thats not a rhetorical questions. Are there any stats about that? Or is it one of those things that blacks can't be racist because people who teach sociology say its not possible.

Its interesting that you can glean facts from a reported story from whats left out. If the attacker was white it would have been noted in the headline, have several paragraphs talking Trump and liberal outlets would be pounding this story out constantly.
 
Ikari said:
The slide into the hyperpartisan craphole we are in certainly did start before Trump. But no one exacerbated it quite like.
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Oh, I don't think that is true...During Obama there were more than enough instances where Obama played to racial, economic, and other tensions that could have had similar results in the streets if Republican's were half as activist and radical as those on the left are today.
 
Oborosen said:
Now I wouldn't go that far.

But there might be an underlying issue.
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You'll have to excuse me, I sometimes try to make a point by displaying the reasoning of the other side.

Clearly, as Blue_State pointed out, Moot only has a serious issue with White Women. ;)
 
j-mac said:
Oh, I don't think that is true...During Obama there were more than enough instances where Obama played to racial, economic, and other tensions that could have had similar results in the streets if Republican's were half as activist and radical as those on the left are today.
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No matter what Obama did, and the people he pissed off, he behaved just well enough to avoid any of that. He didn't generate the same kind of visceral rage Trump produces. Quite honestly, he wasn't as good at the Reality-TV Drama as Trump is. This is our Reality-TV President, and this is the result of electing a Drama Queen. No President in recent history has divided the way Trump has divided. That's just fact.
 
Ikari said:
No matter what Obama did, and the people he pissed off, he behaved just well enough to avoid any of that. He didn't generate the same kind of visceral rage Trump produces.
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Well, you (not you personally) can't have it both ways...There are some in here that are pointing out tea party protest at town halls as akin to the vitriol, and rage displayed by SJW activists on the streets today, and I am telling you that Conservatives don't resort to civil unrest like liberals do....That's a fact.

This is our Reality-TV President, and this is the result of electing a Drama Queen. No President in recent history has divided the way Trump has divided. That's just fact.
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And I think you are dead wrong about that....Everything from the famous "Back of the bus" comment by Obama, to his racial division was every bit as divisive, we were just lucky that Conservatives don't press their complaints in the forms of threat, violence, vandalism, and incivility...We just vote. ;)
 
j-mac said:
Well, you (not you personally) can't have it both ways...There are some in here that are pointing out tea party protest at town halls as akin to the vitriol, and rage displayed by SJW activists on the streets today, and I am telling you that Conservatives don't resort to civil unrest like liberals do....That's a fact.
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It depends. Some of what the tea party did was quite loud, obnoxious, and disrupting, which is where a lot of the left side "activism" had previously lived. But they never quite captured the same magnitude of obnoxious protesting like OWS and such. And certainly they weren't like Antifa, Antifa changed the game with their "let's just beat up everyone" mentality.

j-mac said:
And I think you are dead wrong about that....Everything from the famous "Back of the bus" comment by Obama, to his racial division was every bit as divisive, we were just lucky that Conservatives don't press their complaints in the forms of threat, violence, vandalism, and incivility...We just vote. ;)
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I think that it's well clear that what I said is true. Obama didn't do much to unite, but he didn't do as much as Trump to divide. I don't think anyone can objectively state Trump is not the most divisive president in modern times.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Hate to break it to you but this kind of thing has been happening LONG before Trump came along. Regardless though, such people should be on death row imo.
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Well you mean for the men, right?

If you incarcerate the woman, you would be separating her from that 4 year old child.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Hate to break it to you but this kind of thing has been happening LONG before Trump came along. Regardless though, such people should be on death row imo.
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Ha! i said the same thing.
 
Ikari said:
It depends. Some of what the tea party did was quite loud, obnoxious, and disrupting, which is where a lot of the left side "activism" had previously lived. But they never quite captured the same magnitude of obnoxious protesting like OWS and such. And certainly they weren't like Antifa, Antifa changed the game with their "let's just beat up everyone" mentality.



I think that it's well clear that what I said is true. Obama didn't do much to unite, but he didn't do as much as Trump to divide. I don't think anyone can objectively state Trump is not the most divisive president in modern times.
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Yes, Trump has done more to help the Left, expose who they really are and their true political intentions, than any other president in history.
 
American said:
Yes, Trump has done more to help the Left, expose who they really are and their true political intentions, than any other president in history.
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And the Right as well. We can clearly see them as sheeple, following the R wherever it goes. Trump has deepened the wedge between The People like none before him have, the Republic will suffer for it and it's not just because what the left is doing.
 
Ikari said:
I think that it's well clear that what I said is true. Obama didn't do much to unite, but he didn't do as much as Trump to divide. I don't think anyone can objectively state Trump is not the most divisive president in modern times.
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I don't think that is true at all. The issue is that the rage is more ready on the left, and their rage is more readily blamed on Trump, which gives the illusion of disparity between Obama and Trump. The only disparity is in the response and the coverage.

You are likely slow to blame Obama for the extent of the damage of the rioting during his watch, but his rhetoric definitely helped fuel it... along with the compliant media, and leftist agitators.
 
Kobie said:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/09/us/mexican-man-beaten-brick-los-angeles/index.html



Just awful.
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I am sorry to say that I know somebody who supports this.
Once I heard her on the phone with her husband, and he was at a truck stop. A lot of drivers were angry at Mexican driver saying they were losing their jobs to Mexicans, and were talking about beating him up. She told him they should have beat him. She told me this and her feelings. I just sat there shocked. What can you say?

Interesting fact, she Obama and then voted for Trump. She hated Hillary and said she would be willing to vote for Bernie. It makes me think a large part of the population is feeling desperate and angry, and they have been losing jobs and working depressed wages. They are angry at the establishment and willing to try anything other than Bush, Clinton, etc.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Hate to break it to you but this kind of thing has been happening LONG before Trump came along. Regardless though, such people should be on death row imo.
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Yes. But now they have somebody in the white house that excites them.
 
The Right whines about how violent the left is while they literally attempt to or actually do murder people.
 
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