72 of the convicted terrorist came from countries on the Travel Restriction List.

[Fearandloathing]

There have been quite a number of reports from EU who have accepted refugees into their midst.



Why allow this into your country when you have a choice to not?


Well, you're the one who brought Bowling Green up.

Ah no...and there you go again, transferring blame. All I knew about Bowling Green is they once had a good hockey team. Anything beyond that came from the idioty-moron press flunky to the ***** grabber president. It was he who called attention to it, making the Canadian Broadcasting reporters go to the history books and , welll we see how it degernerates from there. Idiot boy made it sound like there had been blood in the street, a poll of Americans showed 90% who supported the ***** grabber BELIEVED hundreds had been killed by Muslims.......

So, no, I do not, in fact "raise" it, but rather raised the issue that ***** grabber, idiot boy and the lemming posters actually believe these pathological liars. As I have said, I don't believe anything Trump says about anything.

 

[VanceMack]

I'm not aware of a 'terrorist attack in Bowling Green', but I am aware of 'terrorist arrests in Bowling Green'.



Is that what you are talking about?

Probably a worthwhile thing to re-vet the 58,000 refugees already in the country. If this re-vetting uncovered any additional Islamic extremists, I've not heard.

I'd also point out that we have congressional testimony after that event, which took the position that it wasn't possible to sufficiently vet incoming immigrants and refugees from a number of countries.

Funny. It was the same countries that were in Trump's temporary immigration pause. Imagine that.

Remember all the leftist protests when Obama ordered a halt on the process? I mean...they were almost as loud as the leftist protests every time Obama bragged about his record of deporting illegal immigrants, or making sure the law was followed, or even Hillary's announcement of her vote to support LEGAL immigration and to increase immigration barriers.

Yeah...me neither.

 

[YorkshirePete]

But our vetting process is so much more sophisticated than Germany, right? That's what my sociology professor says anyway.

Most of our patriots here probably couldn't pass the vetting. They never seem worried about our 20000 murders and 100000 rapes per year here

 

[VanceMack]

Most of our patriots here probably couldn't pass the vetting. They never seem worried about our 20000 murders and 100000 rapes per year here

Whoa. What do you mean WE dont care? Hell...WE have been trying to get the left to engage the violent criminals and pass mandatory minimum sentencing laws for decades. WE have been pressing to have LONGER prison sentences for violent offenders. Its the LEFT that rushes to excuse or defend the poor dears for committing the vast majority of those violent criminal acts. Its not their fault. Its the economy. Its their community. Its the NRA for promoting gun ownership...

Your rhetoric is silly and completely off base. Like...not even in the right ball park.

 

[YorkshirePete]

There have been quite a number of reports from EU who have accepted refugees into their midst.



Why allow this into your country when you have a choice to not?


Well, you're the one who brought Bowling Green up.

Omg 20? Occasions. Eu doesn't post the info that shows terrorist attacks in Europe are the lowest for many years. I'm presuming he's never lived over there, just spouting? My relatives over there laugh at the pantywaists americans as they say "a
L these brave americans need is the crab bombed out of them for a few weeks." 3000 deaths and they are paranoid. Should have tried the 20000000 Russian deaths

 

[YorkshirePete]

Whoa. What do you mean WE dont care? Hell...WE have been trying to get the left to engage the violent criminals and pass mandatory minimum sentencing laws for decades. WE have been pressing to have LONGER prison sentences for violent offenders. Its the LEFT that rushes to excuse or defend the poor dears for committing the vast majority of those violent criminal acts. Its not their fault. Its the economy. Its their community. Its the NRA for promoting gun ownership...

Your rhetoric is silly and completely off base. Like...not even in the right ball park.

Thanks for the 2nd grade rhetoric and no facts. I'm just quoting facts, you go hysterical on 7 Muslim deaths per year and never mention the 20000 /100000. No inherent genes? All due to the dreaded lefties? No confederate white boy problem? I get it the sandy hook boy was misunderstood. Just out of interest, which advanced degree did you get?

 

[VanceMack]

Thanks for the 2nd grade rhetoric and no facts. I'm just quoting facts, you go hysterical on 7 Muslim deaths per year and never mention the 20000 /100000. No inherent genes? All due to the dreaded lefties? No confederate white boy problem? I get it the sandy hook boy was misunderstood. Just out of interest, which advanced degree did you get?

Did you REALLY just use the word 'rhetoric' during your post? :lamo

 

[YorkshirePete]

Thanks for the 2nd grade rhetoric and no facts. I'm just quoting facts, you go hysterical on 7 Muslim deaths per year and never mention the 20000 /100000. No inherent genes? All due to the dreaded lefties? No confederate white boy problem? I get it the sandy hook boy was misunderstood. Just out of interest, which advanced degree did you get?

And I never said you don't care. Just never mention our crimes. Be careful going to bed tonight, you have a greater chance of falling out and dying than killed by a terrorist. You do know that the dreaded mislims here have better education and income than out high school white boy's here? Hilarious, the ignorance

 

[YorkshirePete]

Did you REALLY just use the word 'rhetoric' during your post? :lamo

Yup. Forgot CAPS, dead giveaway for limited Ed. Apologies for giving you too much rhetoric credit

 

[faithful_servant]

Given these facts, how can the Lefties, the Dems, and the Courts continue justify Blocking the Temporary Travel Restrictions?!

Because TRUMP!!!! (insert copious amount of flying spittle)

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Aaaaaaaand it's been debunked. /thread.

|https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ries-were-implicated-in-terroristic-activity/

 

[Kurmugeon]

And now that there has been sufficent time to thoroughly investigate and verify the story, major news outlets are not backing up the story:

White House fires back at immigration order critics with list of terror arrests | Fox News

White House fires back at immigration order critics with list of terror arrests
Published February 08, 201

The White House moved Wednesday to counter critics who claim President Trump’s travel ban goes too far, circulating a list of terror cases involving suspects who came to the U.S. from the seven countries in question.

The list, obtained by Fox News, gave 24 examples of refugees and other immigrants from Somalia, Sudan, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Syria and Libya who have been arrested on terror-related charges; most have been convicted.

Those seven, mostly Muslim countries were singled out in Trump's executive order, which suspended immigration for 90 days from those nations.

The document of terror arrests appears to be, in part, a rebuke to Seattle U.S. District Judge James Robart who, in questioning a Justice Department lawyer last week about the number of post-9/11 arrests of foreign nationals from those countries, incorrectly asserted: “Let me tell you … The answer to that is none, as best I can tell.”

...

Despite the claims by some Leftie Propaganda Rag newspapers with very low standards and frequent false reporting... this story has been verified and there are many confirmed cases of convicted Terrorists coming from the counties on Obama AND Trumps Travel Restriction List.

Sorry, Thread isn't over, it just beginning.

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[truthatallcost]

Most of our patriots here probably couldn't pass the vetting. They never seem worried about our 20000 murders and 100000 rapes per year here

15,000 murders per year. I'm so unworried about it that I actually know the actual figures.

 

[eohrnberger]

Ah no...and there you go again, transferring blame. All I knew about Bowling Green is they once had a good hockey team. Anything beyond that came from the idioty-moron press flunky to the ***** grabber president. It was he who called attention to it, making the Canadian Broadcasting reporters go to the history books and , welll we see how it degernerates from there. Idiot boy made it sound like there had been blood in the street, a poll of Americans showed 90% who supported the ***** grabber BELIEVED hundreds had been killed by Muslims.......

So let's just completely ignore this then: Study Reveals 72 Terrorists Came From Countries Covered by Trump Vetting Order | Center for Immigration Studies

for one, and for two, the congressional testimony from FBI, DHS and others that it is impossible to vet immigrants / refugees from these 7 countries. These would have been the leaders of these department during Obama's administration.

So, no, I do not, in fact "raise" it, but rather raised the issue that ***** grabber, idiot boy and the lemming posters actually believe these pathological liars. As I have said, I don't believe anything Trump says about anything.

Wasn't the first post that mentioned Bowling Green yours? Could have swore that it was. Oh well. No matter.

 

[dorsai]

Wouldn't an Iranian-American be born/naturalized here already? How many people does everyone think the US can hold anyway?

That's kind of one reason the whole hyphenated American thing is rather silly. Better to say an American of Iranian descent. If that were the case, people would just say "I'm an American of..." "Stop right there buddy. You had me at American. Come on in..."

A citizen is a citizen. Having genes from a different part of the world doesn't change that.

This goes back to a general gripe of mine that citizenship is rapidly losing its privileges and most people seem to think everyone is and should be treated the same by the government regardless of citizenship.

 

[ecofarm]

Past reports by the CIS have been deemed misleading and riddled with basic errors by scholars on immigration; think tanks from across the political spectrum (such as the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, the Cato Institute, Reason Foundation, the Heritage Foundation and Center for American Progress); left-leaning, neutral and right-leaning media (including the Wall Street Journal, Politifact and NBC News); several leading nonpartisan immigration-research organizations (such as Migration Policy Institute and the American Immigration Council); and by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.[29][30][31][32][33][34][2][35][36][37][38][39][40][41]

Writing in 2007 about a recent CIS report, Wayne A. Cornelius, Distinguished Professor of Political Science and Director of the Center for Comparative Immigration Studies at UCSD, said, "Like all reports emanating from the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, D.C., the latest one... offers a relentlessly negative view of the most recent wave of immigration to the United States. The economic benefits of immigration – even illegal immigration – to the average American are barely acknowledged, while the costs are estimated in such a way as to provoke the maximum degree of public anger and anxiety."[32]...

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) published reports in 2002[42] and 2009[43] connecting CIS to John Tanton, who helped found various other organizations, including the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and NumbersUSA, and showing he has ties to white supremacy groups and a eugenics foundation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Immigration_Studies

 

[Tanngrisnir]

And now that there has been sufficent time to thoroughly investigate and verify the story, major news outlets are not backing up the story:

White House fires back at immigration order critics with list of terror arrests | Fox News



Despite the claims by some Leftie Propaganda Rag newspapers with very low standards and frequent false reporting... this story has been verified and there are many confirmed cases of convicted Terrorists coming from the counties on Obama AND Trumps Travel Restriction List.

Sorry, Thread isn't over, it just beginning.

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Sorry, it's been debunked.

If you need a moment, just say so.

 

[Kurmugeon]

Sorry, it's been debunked.

If you need a moment, just say so.

You're full of it, and so is your "Debunking". I trust my source(s), note the plural.

The Lefties have been in denial for ages.

Addtionally, the OP have four separate issues addressed, not one.

1] Many of those convicted of Terrorism have come from the countries on the Trump Temporary Travel Restriction List - Proven Multiple times.

2] The Seatle judge who issued the order admitted, when questioned, at the time of the suspension, was unaware of both the precedent case law, and the statistics of where the terrorists were from.

3] The 9th cicruit court is now revising and revisting their review of the order, because they know they got it wrong, and if it goes to the supreme court, they'll get blasted, and possibly the 9th circuit court will be disbanded.

4] In those cases were the Terrorists were American Born, they did not become radicalised until they came into signficant contact with Foreign Born Muslims, often from the list of seven restricted countries.

You're just proven WRONG!

As to your other false claim, the idea that the thread is over, well, others are still reading and posting, and you're still here... so, You're WRONG AGAIN!


The Lefties desparately want to bury this story... sorry... you lose.
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[Tanngrisnir]

You're full of it, and so is your "Debunking". I trust my source(s), note the plural.

Sorry, it's been debunked.

The Lefties have been in denial for ages.

Irrelevant to what I stated or linked to.

Addtionally, the OP have four separate issues addressed, not one.

1] Many of those convicted of Terrorism have come from the countries on the Trump Temporary Travel Restriction List - Proven Multiple times.

2] The Seatle judge who issued the order admitted, when questioned, at the time of the suspension, was unaware of both the precedent case law, and the statistics of where the terrorists were from.

3] The 9th cicruit court is now revising and revisting their review of the order, because they know they got it wrong, and if it goes to the supreme court, they'll get blasted, and possibly the 9th circuit court will be disbanded.

4] In those cases were the Terrorists were American Born, they did not become radicalised until they came into signficant contact with Foreign Born Muslims, often from the list of seven restricted countries.

You're just proven WRONG!

Again, this is really hard for you. The claim has been debunked, what I linked to proves that, and you're just babbling around that simple fact.

As to your other false claim, the idea that the thread is over, well, others are still reading and posting, and you're still here... so, You're WRONG AGAIN!

The thread is, in effect, over, since your claim has been debunked and you cannot face that fact.

The Lefties desparately want to bury this story... sorry... you lose.
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Yawn. Not a lefty, no matter how desperately you need me to be.

Sorry you can't accept the fact that the claim about 72 has been debunked.

 

[holbritter]

Aaaaaaaand it's been debunked. /thread.

|https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ries-were-implicated-in-terroristic-activity/

The story says 33 of the 72. It wasn't completely debunked.

 

[Kurmugeon]

The story says 33 of the 72. It wasn't completely debunked.

And they had to hugely stretch and distort the definitions of "County of Origin" to get it down to 32.

Its a lie.

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[Tanngrisnir]

The story says 33 of the 72. It wasn't completely debunked.

The original claim was this: Study Reveals 72 Terrorists Came From Countries Covered by Trump Vetting Order | Center for Immigration Studies

As it was specifically given, it has been debunked.

I don't expect conservatives and Trump worshipers to understand that.

 

[holbritter]

The original claim was this: Study Reveals 72 Terrorists Came From Countries Covered by Trump Vetting Order | Center for Immigration Studies

As it was specifically given, it has been debunked.

I don't expect conservatives and Trump worshipers to understand that.

Good thing I'm neither of those

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Good thing I'm neither of those

Indeed!

 

[jdog]

The issue is fairly simple, the 7 countries that are on the list are either failed governments, or governments which we have hostile relations with. How do you vet someone from a country when you cannot access the records of that person for due to the status of the host government? The people of Iran were just in the streets chanting "death to America" and the liberals want them to come to our country un-vetted.