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prometeus said:
Right, why post something intelligent when stupidity will do? Only in your world.

And making stupid comments will make it go away...
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No, but making factual comments educate the stupid.
 
Paradoxical said:
The bill gives 100 billion to hospitals for UNINSURED patients as long as that patient is covid related. Scouts honor.

Has nothing at all to do with the general populace.

Who has a high amount of illegal aliens and deadbeats without insurance. If you guessed NYC you would be right. It's why they sneaked it in there.
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Why are you spreading this bull****? You know you're making it up, and it's actually pretty sad and pathetic.
 
Paradoxical said:
The public saw none of that 100 billion. It was a bailout to the states who allow unfettered illegal immigration and deadbeat socialists.
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That's a lie, unless you don't think lots of good old boy MAGAs are uninsured, which would be stupid instead of just dishonest.
 
JasperL said:
That's a lie, unless you don't think lots of good old boy MAGAs are uninsured, which would be stupid instead of just dishonest.
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Not many MAGAs live in far left liberal cities like NYC. They are good ole country boys. They didn't get hit like the sardine can cities.
 
Paradoxical said:
Not many MAGAs live in far left liberal cities like NYC. They are good ole country boys. They didn't get hit like the sardine can cities.
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Oh, I see, everyone who is without insurance lives in NYC or other Democratic-led cities. Fascinating! And stupid! And ignorant!!
 
Paradoxical said:
I dunno Jasper. WHY do I keep on having to do you work. A Google search brings this up immediately. Why are you and others so willfully ignorant n this topic, even some poster here who claims he OWNS a health care facility is clueless.

Hospital Stimulus Funds to Pay for Uninsured COVID-19 Treatment
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So you tell us - what's the uninsurance rate in NYC? And can you compare it to other cities, like Atlanta? Which city has a higher rate of uninsured residents? How about Knoxville - where I live. Nice red state, red city. Does Knoxville have a higher or lower rate of uninsured than that liberal hellhole NYC where all the illegals go so they can get COVID and get treated for free?
 
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JasperL said:
So you tell us - what's the uninsurance rate in NYC? And can you compare it to other cities, like Atlanta? Which city has a higher rate of uninsured residents? How about Knoxville - where I live. Nice red state, red city. Does Knoxville have a higher or lower rate of uninsured than that liberal hellhole NYC where all the illegals go so they can get COVID and get treated for free?
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Well, at least you now know something you didn't an hour ago and I am happy to have informed you about their being 100 billion available for uninsured patients.

20 metropolitan areas with the largest number of unauthorized immigrants | Pew Research Center

as well as this link:

Immigrants in New York | American Immigration Council

Nearly a quarter of New York residents are immigrants, while almost one-fifth of residents are native-born U.S. citizens with at least one immigrant parent.

725,000 undocumented immigrants comprised 15 percent of the immigrant population and 4 percent of the total state population in 2016.
1.2 million people in New York, including 547,802 U.S. citizens, lived with at least one undocumented family member between 2010 and 2014.
During the same period, about one in 12 of children in the state was a U.S. citizen living with at least one undocumented family member (351,146 children in total).
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What are the chances of those people being insured and what are the chances any study of uninsured AMERICANS would include the illegal alien population? ALL of the people in NYC would be getting free medical treatment in ANY hospital in NYC as long a doctor said it could be Covid related.

I hope this helps.
 
Paradoxical said:
Well, at least...
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You didn't answer my question, and moved the goal posts. Yes, NYC has a lot of immigrants. That's well known. My question involved the uninsurance rate in NYC versus, say, Atlanta or Knoxville. Do you know? Do you care?

It appears you don't and are going to keep spreading some CT that doctors all over the country are involved in a massive fraud to dishonestly claim their patients have COVID to cheat the U.S. and taxpayers. You don't have a shred of evidence for this, but that doesn't matter to you.
 
Good God, this thread is depressing. Trump supporters cheering for and justifying the police shoving an old man to the ground. Disgusting.

These are probably the same people who shove their children to hard when they misbehave, and when the child falls to the ground bleeding and with a concussion, say "Well I told him to sit still but he got in my way so he deserved it".:roll:
 
JasperL said:
You didn't answer my question, and moved the goal posts. Yes, NYC has a lot of immigrants. That's well known. My question involved the uninsurance rate in NYC versus, say, Atlanta or Knoxville. Do you know? Do you care?

It appears you don't and are going to keep spreading some CT that doctors all over the country are involved in a massive fraud to dishonestly claim their patients have COVID to cheat the U.S. and taxpayers. You don't have a shred of evidence for this, but that doesn't matter to you.
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While NYC may not be at the top, they have a LOT of uninsured and when you combine that with almost a million illegals, whaddya get?
 
tres borrachos said:
Good God, this thread is depressing. Trump supporters cheering for and justifying the police shoving an old man to the ground. Disgusting.

These are probably the same people who shove their children to hard when they misbehave, and when the child falls to the ground bleeding and with a concussion, say "Well I told him to sit still but he got in my way so he deserved it".:roll:
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Cry me a river.
 
Paradoxical said:
While NYC may not be at the top, they have a LOT of uninsured and when you combine that with almost a million illegals, whaddya get?
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OK, so you have no idea. Yes, it's a big city with 8 million people so they have lots of insured, lots of wealthy people, lots of immigrants, lots of whites, blacks, Jews and others compared to some rural town in OK. Did you have a point other than you're going to keep spreading your BS, baseless, evidence free CT accusing doctors of a massive fraud?
 
JasperL said:
OK, so you have no idea. Yes, it's a big city with 8 million people so they have lots of insured, lots of wealthy people, lots of immigrants, lots of whites, blacks, Jews and others compared to some rural town in OK. Did you have a point other than you're going to keep spreading your BS, baseless, evidence free CT accusing doctors of a massive fraud?
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How many of those million illegals do you suppose carry insurance. ONE MILLION out of a city of 8 million.
 
Paradoxical said:
How many of those million illegals do you suppose carry insurance. ONE MILLION out of a city of 8 million.
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Has nothing to do with your dishonest, bull****, baseless, idiotic, evidence free claim that doctors in NYC and elsewhere are engaged in a massive fraud.
 
JasperL said:
Has nothing to do with your dishonest, bull****, baseless, idiotic, evidence free claim that doctors in NYC and elsewhere are engaged in a massive fraud.
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LOL. You know very well I have gone over this topic on numerous occasions. Your premise is that society is basically good and moral and that even illegal aliens carry insurance and that a hospital or doctor would prefer to go bankrupt rather than to fudge a little and say that IN THE DOCTORS OPINION, the uninsured person had signs of COVID, knowing that there is no independent review or test results needed. You keep living in that fantasy land.

The rational people know this is why the COVID deaths in NYC in particular are blown WAYYYY out of proportion.
 
Evidence is necessary and only CTers believe Covid deaths in NYC are blown way out of proportion.
 
Paradoxical said:
LOL. You know very well I have gone over this topic on numerous occasions. Your premise is that society is basically good and moral and that even illegal aliens carry insurance and that a hospital or doctor would prefer to go bankrupt rather than to fudge a little and say that IN THE DOCTORS OPINION, the uninsured person had signs of COVID, knowing that there is no independent review or test results needed. You keep living in that fantasy land.

The rational people know this is why the COVID deaths in NYC in particular are blown WAYYYY out of proportion.
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I've shown you the data, excess deaths, and they show that NYC has UNDERstated deaths from COVID, not overstated them. So you're just lying at this point. Here's the link for about the 20th time.

Preliminary Estimate of Excess Mortality During the COVID-19 Outbreak — New York City, March 11–May 2, 2020 | MMWR

During March 11–May 2, 2020, a total of 32,107 deaths were reported to DOHMH; of these deaths, 24,172 (95% confidence interval = 22,980–25,364) were found to be in excess of the seasonal expected baseline. Included in the 24,172 deaths were 13,831 (57%) laboratory-confirmed COVID-19–associated deaths and 5,048 (21%) probable COVID-19–associated deaths, leaving 5,293 (22%) excess deaths that were not identified as either laboratory-confirmed or probable COVID-19–associated deaths (Figure).
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jamesbyoung said:
Evidence is necessary and only CTers believe Covid deaths in NYC are blown way out of proportion.
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What's worse is he's said many times the only estimate of COVID deaths he'll accept is the excess of deaths this year over previous years. Those data are available and they show, definitively, that NYC has understated deaths by thousands, even when the city includes "probable" COVID deaths. And he rejects the data and repeats this lie that NYC has overstated them, to advance a theory that is baseless that providers in NYC are engaged in a massive fraud.
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
Perhaps your problem is medical then, I don't know. However I can see by your response that you either didn't read or didn't understand the post I had submitted.
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Perhaps because your post made no sense. Frankly.. you jumped into a conversation I had with someone else.

Originally Posted by cabse5
It's the other way around. The bigots are the ones who've rushed to judgement about cops and the Floyd incident just punctuated this bigotry against cops.
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I responded with :

jaeger said:
There is no "rush to judgement" when you see a person kneeling on another mans neck, while the person struggles to breath and isn't resisting in any way.
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So.. I think the only person that has problems with comprehension.. well.. is you.
 
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