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35-Page Report Alleging Trump Was "Cultivated, Supported And Assisted" By Russia

I find this pretty funny:
Russian Hacks - Wikileaks - Trump Campaign gets overblown coverage with no verifiable proof..

Foreign spy gathers information on Trump that is funded by groups and donors that supported Hillary....No one talks about it.......


For the sake of the argument let us assume this is true:

So it is perfectly fine for Hillary to have foreign agents working on her behalf but it is a problem for Trump to have benefitted from foreign agents?
 
Porkuloss said:
The Donald is a secret Muslim terrorist communist fascist homosexual who frequents Chicago bath houses and wants to take my guns??? Let him try!:lamo
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can you cite this position from the democrats from media reports from nov 8 to today?
 
Absentglare said:
No it isn't. Why are you trying to pass off this cheap lie?

"CNN has reviewed a 35-page compilation of the memos, from which the two-page synopsis was drawn. The memos have since been published by Buzzfeed. The memos originated as opposition research, first commissioned by anti-Trump Republicans, and later by Democrats. At this point, CNN is not reporting on details of the memos, as it has not independently corroborated the specific allegations. But, in preparing this story, CNN has spoken to multiple high ranking intelligence, administration, congressional and law enforcement officials, as well as foreign officials and others in the private sector with direct knowledge of the memos."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...igence-report-russia/index.html?client=safari
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They literally cited the dossier in the first line.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
You like to put words in peoples mouth don'tcha. Of the two of us, your the one advocating socialism here and acting like a liberal. Trying to tug at the heart strings, "oh the poor working class in the rust belt. You want them to starve, Boo hoo" I'd ask you why you even call yourself a libertarian, but you'd only come back with it's not socialism if it benefits whoever it is you want it to benefit rather than it benefitting people your not affiliated with. As far as me wanting to raise taxes. I don't, in fact I want to abolish the income tax altogether. AS well as gut the Fed, and give the power to create money back to the Treasury. I'd like to cut SS, Medicare, and the Military as well as most government programs. If that's a liberal pipe dream, then I guess I'm a liberal, whoop dee doo. You can call me a communist for all I care, doesn't change the fact that your on a bandwagon eating up propaganda with a smile oblivious to the total assreaming coming our way.
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Lol we agree on more than you realize, if you would just remove your head from the selected orifice you would see this.


I advocated for no socialism. I advocated for change in unfair trade deals and laws that keep american profits overseas.
 
Just what we need, 2 girls, 1 Trump.
 
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Call Sign Chaos said:
They literally cited the dossier in the first line.
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CNN is trying to distance the 2-page memo they referenced from the 35 page dossier released by Buzzfeed when, in reality, the 2-page memo was a summary of the 35 page dossier.
 
Nap said:
I find this pretty funny:
Russian Hacks - Wikileaks - Trump Campaign gets overblown coverage with no verifiable proof..

Foreign spy gathers information on Trump that is funded by groups and donors that supported Hillary....No one talks about it.......


For the sake of the argument let us assume this is true:

So it is perfectly fine for Hillary to have foreign agents working on her behalf but it is a problem for Trump to have benefitted from foreign agents?
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The report was written by a Brit. Foreign, but an ally. He's the chap who uncovered the FIFA scandal.

For the sake of the argument. Comey had this "credible" report on Trump, and the outside possibility of dirt on Hillary. He only went to the media with one set of suspicions. Why not both?
 
haymarket said:
Mentioning the merry go round without knowing who Marcus Illions was is like talking about Yankee history and being ignorant of Babe Ruth.

And that is English.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Illions

You could have simply googled MARCUS ILLIONS and it would have taken less time to educate yourself that it did to make your remark. But then that would have been a positive step.
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A positive step. So writes the poster who constantly writes about being insulted.

I don't care who Marcus Illions is. Why would I care?

As I wrote, I know your game, been there done that.

It would be insane to engage when you're playing at it once again.
 
Fletch said:
What does that date matter? (And I cant believe you actually counted up the days) Like there is a democrat out there who can beat him in 2020 lol. The number you seek is Trumps last day in office, which will be sometime in January of 2025. Do have the countdown figure on that yet?
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Then Pence will take over.
 
NonoBadDog said:
I read your statement and noticed some inconsistencies. You point out that allegations can be gossip and ask if these allegations will be proven. Then you admit that they might not be. If they aren't then aren't the allegations gossip or does that only apply to lies that are fabricated by the right and not the left?

Your next sentence states:
"But this is no tabloid smear story. Professional media outlets have always and should always report serious allegations regarding the President of the United States."
The information hasn't been vetted or corroborated by anyone. CNN even stated that fact and then rationalized running the story anyway.

That leave me to wonder, do you believe everything that you read? Do you not question anything? Maybe it is that you only blindly believe anything that reinforces your political ideology, regardless of how ridiculous that information is. I don't know. Not my problem. I don't believe anyone or anything on face value that I don't know very well. Some people welcome the pumping of smoke up their ass. I don't.
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Allegations by a respected former MI6 intelligence official, that are further considered plausible enough to warrant an investigation by U.S. intelligence agencies, are quite different than tabloid gossip. Can you honestly not tell the difference? And why are you bringing up right vs. left? What exactly do you think I believe that isn't true? I never stated I believe these allegations are true. You are jumping to conclusions instead of actually reading my words.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
You claimed that trump was the "antithesis" to libertarian values, yet you voted for hillary.

Why not explain this without media propaganda.
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Easy. Trump was a far more threatening candidate to liberty than Clinton, as un-libertarian as Clinton is herself. But again that isn't what this thread is about, so stop trying to derail it.
 
Lakryte said:
Allegations by a respected former MI6 intelligence official, that are further considered plausible enough to warrant an investigation by U.S. intelligence agencies, are quite different than tabloid gossip. Can you honestly not tell the difference? And why are you bringing up right vs. left? What exactly do you think I believe that isn't true? I never stated I believe these allegations are true. You are jumping to conclusions instead of actually reading my words.
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It would depend on one's definiton of "respected and the motivation of that "respected" official. He was hired to smear find information to smear Trump.
The memos detailing them, released by Buzzfeed shortly after CNN’s story broke, came not from the intelligence community itself but from a person claiming to be a former operative with the British intelligence service MI6 who compiled them “over a period of months” while conducting opposition research on behalf of Trump’s political rivals, both Republican and Democrat. That material from the former MI6 official may not be all of what the intelligence agencies have; the “compromising” information about President-elect Trump that “Russian operatives” reportedly claim to possess may not be what they actually possess; and what they actually possess may not be completely, or even partially, true.
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He had given the information to several intelligence and news agencies. This "report" had been out for months but nobody was biting. It was bogus. He finally found an agency that was stupid enough to fall for it and that was Buzzfeed. There are several reporters that previously worked for Buzzfeed that work at CNN. They carried the stupidity to CNN like a virus, and it spread. CNN caught the stupidity and also published the story. The story got bigger, was "exploding", so Buzzfeed decided to publish all 35 pages. CNN was caught off guard. They just wanted to release enough to make Trump look bad but not enough to expose the idiocy of the report. Now the whole story was out, about how they were duped and didn't care enough to NOT publish the story that nobody else would touch. Now CNN and Buzzfeed are playing the blame game and aren't real happy with each other.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/business/media/donald-trump-buzzfeed-cnn.html
 
Lakryte said:
Easy. Trump was a far more threatening candidate to liberty than Clinton, as un-libertarian as Clinton is herself. But again that isn't what this thread is about, so stop trying to derail it.
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since libertarianism's core is liberty, will you tell me how trump is going to take away liberty from american Citizens
 
Lakryte said:
Easy. Trump was a far more threatening candidate to liberty than Clinton, as un-libertarian as Clinton is herself. But again that isn't what this thread is about, so stop trying to derail it.
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Lets see, Hillary wanted to keep obamacare or actually replace it with single payer, wanted to raise taxes, pro-perpetual war, federal tax payer paid drug addiction reform, tax payer pre-schools, anti-2nd amendment, free college, cronie insider wall street criminal who rigged the primary with the DNC.


You cant be libertarian and vote for hillary, (or trump for that matter)....



How specifically is trump more "threatening" than clinton. be specific, "libertarian".
 
NonoBadDog said:
It would depend on one's definiton of "respected and the motivation of that "respected" official. He was hired to smear find information to smear Trump.


He had given the information to several intelligence and news agencies. This "report" had been out for months but nobody was biting. It was bogus. He finally found an agency that was stupid enough to fall for it and that was Buzzfeed. There are several reporters that previously worked for Buzzfeed that work at CNN. They carried the stupidity to CNN like a virus, and it spread. CNN caught the stupidity and also published the story. The story got bigger, was "exploding", so Buzzfeed decided to publish all 35 pages. CNN was caught off guard. They just wanted to release enough to make Trump look bad but not enough to expose the idiocy of the report. Now the whole story was out, about how they were duped and didn't care enough to NOT publish the story that nobody else would touch. Now CNN and Buzzfeed are playing the blame game and aren't real happy with each other.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/business/media/donald-trump-buzzfeed-cnn.html
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He was hired to find out bad things about Trump, yes. That doesn't make what he did the same as tabloid gossip. Why is that so hard to understand?
 
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