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35 legislature seats switched from red to blue, While 4 switched from blue to red

Deuce said:
Straw man isn't what you think it is.

The autofellatio comment stands. Nobody should applaud Trump when he's taking credit for **** he didn't do.
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Attending the SOTU address in person is the same as watching it on TV?
Sorry, no, that's completely incorrect. It most certainly is not the same.

Can't even give the man credit for what he did accomplish? I'm suspecting a case of TDS.
 
Deuce said:
"Prevent Americans from securing their nation" :lamo Listen, despite the 24/7 media circus, our nation is doing fine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime...Property_Crime_Rates_in_the_United_States.svg

So, your "means of self determination" is undermined? How's that? Is your idea of self-determination defined by the presence of other people in this country with a skin color you dislike? Because that's not self-determination.

It's adorable that you think immigrants, particularly illegal immigrants, get "preferential treatment."
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It is undermined by one side imported people for the sole reason to stack the deck with voters.
 
Middle_Ground said:
They don't hate immigrants...they hate themselves for not being able to compete with immigrants.
It's a horrible cycle.
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Dam that's probably right but they are so hate based that it could be that also. Just because.
 
PhysicalRemoval said:
Not sure how pointing out how little your side cares about anyone is "an attack comment".. I know its upsetting your side is losing but it what was bound to happen.
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See the lack of correlation with this guys response to what I wrote. He has to make up 3/4th of it to even respond.
 
Deuce said:
She didn't clap? That's your argument!? :lamo

I'm sorry. I mistook your statement about "stand in support" as referring to some actual policy initiative instead of you being mad that she didn't literally stand on her feet when you think she should. I have no response to this complaint of yours :lamo
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I
see, if we don't stand and clap for Mein Fuhrer then we are what, maybe commies.
 
PhysicalRemoval said:
There you go, change the subject and ignore the facts at hand. They are "So hard working", great. They do not need an benefits, or preferential treatment. No more "Quotas" No more Affirmative action.

More over if your family was going to, generations after you came, prevent Americans from securing their nation, and working to undermine their means of self determination, then clearly it was massive mistake to allow you in.
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Can anyone pick something out of this that isn't make believe, ranting in the wilderness?
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Erik. :2wave:

The words in the first sentence of your post "illegal immigrants" says it all! It's totally wrong that people who are following our laws regarding immigration are pushed to the back of the bus while those here illegally are taken care of - Whose bright idea was that, and WHY?

During the early 1900s, millions of immigrants crossed the ocean and entered this country through Ellis Island, and they were not expecting handouts from our government! It was up to them to provide for themselves, and they understood that and did it by getting jobs and working to better themselves. Few of them spoke English, but they learned it and took the tests to become citizens, so when did that change, and why is it so difficult for those who travel on foot to get here from Mexico and Central America to do the same?

Why are people like Pelosi basically sending a message to illegal immigrants that it's okay to disregard America's laws - "you just get here and we'll take care of you?" :screwy
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You must be talking about the right wing because they are the ones with the history of letting immigrants that are illegal stay here. Talk to your own party and since we agree with them, why are we wrong and your party are right. just wondering.
 
Deuce said:
"Prevent Americans from securing their nation" :lamo Listen, despite the 24/7 media circus, our nation is doing fine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime...Property_Crime_Rates_in_the_United_States.svg

So, your "means of self determination" is undermined? How's that? Is your idea of self-determination defined by the presence of other people in this country with a skin color you dislike? Because that's not self-determination.

It's adorable that you think immigrants, particularly illegal immigrants, get "preferential treatment."
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They believe this because Fox Crap news told them so but it is hard to respond to them when everything they believe and say isn't a fact.
 
Deuce said:
Did you, in your home, stand up and clap?
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Read this yourself , it is among listeners, why would anyone with a brain listen to someone who lies 75% of the time and within a hour, turn what he said around and it turns out to be still just another lie. Are you crazy. No president has been this hated, Only the true hater that came out of their closet support your president. They have always been here but a national conscience kept them from voicing this hatred. WE have to put them back into their closet.
 
PhysicalRemoval said:
It is undermined by one side imported people for the sole reason to stack the deck with voters.
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Now is that like promising everyone a tax cut to buy votes. Add in the fake support for guns , Christianity and Anti Abortion and then you realize why they even exist, when the fact is they only work for the golden few.
 
PhysicalRemoval said:
It is undermined by one side imported people for the sole reason to stack the deck with voters.
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I really don't have the numbers but the right wing party has opened the gate for illegals way more then the democrats. So is that what you mean.
 
lurchadams said:
The U.S. Senate changing to blue is much more likely than the house. Gerrymandering has the house pretty well protected from flipping to Democratic.
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In a normal cycle I would agree but trump has started a a wave of female voters that has not been ssen the suffrage movement.
 
GDViking said:
In a normal cycle I would agree but trump has started a a wave of female voters that has not been ssen the suffrage movement.
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Many women voted for Trump in 2016. The majority of the population of white women in Alabama voted for Roy Moore in December of 2017. Perhaps that phenomenon was a one-time thing?
 
jbander said:
What are they getting that we can't get.
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Don't you know affirmative action is for immigrants now to!

They hate themselves they are angry because they can no longer walk out of high school and be paid 60/70k a year just because they show up.
They want to turn back the clock to a time when Europe was in ruins and China wasn't making ****. Sad part is they dont realize unless the world turns the clock back along with them there is no turning back.
As far as I'm concerned let them cut all entitlements off, let them build a wall around the entire country, while there at it stop all international flights from entering the US.
They will suffer more than any coastal elite will.
Then the whole movement can be put in the trash heap and we can move on and rebuild.
 
It's funny I was talking to an older man on Friday night.
He was pissed off that a friend of mine started a micro brewery a few years ago and it's taking off.
He said he tried the same thing many years ago and the only reason he couldn't get it going was because he wasn't a minority and didn't qualify for the loans.
I then had to let him in on the fact that the brewery that was started by this immigrant was started by him going to his community which raised 500k and that I was an early investor and we all the early folks now 35% of the company.
The government and loans didn't enter the picture until he wanted to expand.
See this man just assumed an immigrant of color got special treatment he could not believe it was hard work and determination that made something happen that he could not achieve.
It's all about not being able to compete thus feeling lost and left behind.
 
jbander said:
Now is that like promising everyone a tax cut to buy votes. Add in the fake support for guns , Christianity and Anti Abortion and then you realize why they even exist, when the fact is they only work for the golden few.
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No, it fact its NOTHING like it. You are bring outsiders into this nation for the sole reason to change the demographics and voter pool because you can not win over enough Americans.
 
jbander said:
I really don't have the numbers but the right wing party has opened the gate for illegals way more then the democrats. So is that what you mean.
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No, I am talking about immigration as a whole.

Who introduced, voted for, and passed the Immigration Act of 1965?

Who Passes for Amnesty EVERY TIME?

Who pushed for the "Diversity" lottery?

What side shuts down the government to protect illegals?
 
PhysicalRemoval said:
Not sure how pointing out how little your side cares about anyone is "an attack comment".. I know its upsetting your side is losing but it what was bound to happen.
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Gibberish, hell your not even good at that. You keep us laughing though
 
Middle_Ground said:
Don't you know affirmative action is for immigrants now to!

They hate themselves they are angry because they can no longer walk out of high school and be paid 60/70k a year just because they show up.
They want to turn back the clock to a time when Europe was in ruins and China wasn't making ****. Sad part is they dont realize unless the world turns the clock back along with them there is no turning back.
As far as I'm concerned let them cut all entitlements off, let them build a wall around the entire country, while there at it stop all international flights from entering the US.
They will suffer more than any coastal elite will.
Then the whole movement can be put in the trash heap and we can move on and rebuild.
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Ya I just can't help arguing against insane hateful stupidity. Your right everyday their clown act at the top keeps going and Their goofball followers keep on acting so ignorant with their I hate everything rants . Does nothing but move more of them to the Right wing trash heap that will be left after their Gibberish stops . The longer it takes too dump their president , more of them in total will get voted out. Hell all the right wing politicians are bailing out of their congressional positions ,handing them even in right wing strongholds to the progressive candidates. 39 elections so far and 35 went from red to blue and 4 went from blue to red. The longer we can keep their criminal leader in office the better it will be for the left.
 
lurchadams said:
Many women voted for Trump in 2016. The majority of the population of white women in Alabama voted for Roy Moore in December of 2017. Perhaps that phenomenon was a one-time thing?
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Those where mostly evangelicals women that ended up voting in a pagan for their leader. A hate driven, evil , cruel ,dangerous mental case.
 
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