Well not necessarily. You think it would, but you never know until you are actually faced with that situation. Further there are plenty of conscientious objectors in the military. They serve in non-combat positions. Well by plenty I mean there are some.
Thanks... I understand the fact that you never know how a person will react untill you put them in that situation... Some 'cowards' might lose it and become the most ferocious fighter, while an otherwise ferocious man might find a corner and start crying... you just don't know...
I would have expected that there would be an element of psychological testing as a means to ensure that the highest percentage of soldiers sent into battle are going to be the fierce fighters that is intended, and those showing tendancies that they might be a burden to their squad would be relieved of that position...
Well I suppose anything is possible. Two years ago I would have laughed at the suggestion of MK ULTRA. Now, not so much.
I appreciate the actual willingness to accept the possibility... I felt compelled to bring up the possibility of a mind control experiement gone wrong (or exactly as planned?) in spit of the fact that it could end up becoming a debate on whether or not it exists (which has been declassified, and even my girlfriend was taught about the experiments in her pysch class, so it's a pretty rediculous debate)
The big kicker will be if / when this guy wakes up. If he's got no clue about anything that's going on... well, the one common theme proposed for people psychologically programmed in that way is that they will be killed once their objective is accomplished, and with it being a subconscious program has no recollection of what he did... in some cases as bad as not knowing WHO he is... The entire area being not commonly known / accepted (Yes, there are still people that will deny that mk-ultra exists or that it was any success... but you can bet if there was ANY success, the testing has just gone further underground the prospect of a soldier that will accomplish his objective with no sense of self-preservation beyond that intent)
Though, I will concede THIS is about EQUALLY like with "He was legitimately a muslim extremist that was bent on killing americans".
This is absolutely a possibility, and I've thought about it as soon as word started spreading about his emotional profile.
I've listened to interviews with a Dr specifically on the topic of SSRI's. this was almost a year ago now... so, details like her name and website are a little fuzzy, but the meat of it stuck because I was already semi-aware of the risks of those drugs.
The notes she added are that these drugs do have a side-effect to cause people to commit suicide, have psychotic episodes, increased depression... but most importantly was that these side-effects are most commn in times when the user : stops using it, changes dosages, uses an alternative drug, etc... whenever there is any sort of change in the usage is when these side-effects occur.
Being a psychiatrist, he probably felt he could handle it, or whatever... so switched his dosage or something that caused him to lose his inhibitions... This would also be a potential reason for not releasing his millitary record? (Or has this been released now?)
There is about a 5% chance (based on precedences and total information) that this is NOT the case... now, there may be OTHER situations... but seriously 95% change these types of drugs were a factor.
I initially wanted this man to die, and I'd being lying if I didn't admit I'm a death penalty hypocrite. I don't normally support the death penalty because I don't believe that our justice system is in the business of dispensing vengeance, and that is all the death penalty is. But this incident is one of those that made me immediately wish for this guys death.
But you are right, we don't have all the information. That's kind of been my point from day one. In the face of all this nonsensical anti-Islam fear mongering and ignorant rhetoric I think that a simple call for reason wouldn't be too much to ask for. Apparently it is.
But you and I and a few others can contemplate this issue without gathering our pitchforks and torches.
Look, you got a dog that's got rabies and it could bite anyone at anytime... there's nothing that can be done, so you put it out of it's misery.
Let him explain his case, but regardless he was almost definately in 'temporary insanity' category at least, but you can't forget that this guy IS in the millitary. SO he is far more dangerous if he's mentally instable.
As for the muslim thing... yes, I suppose it's POSSIBLE that he was simply a muslim extremist that came to america, got his citizenship, joined the millitary just so that one day YEARS LATER and a degree in psychiatry (which is a Doctorate if I'm not mistaken) later he could get his taste of american blood... yes, there's about a 5% chance that this could be the case (or something similar)... but today in my local paper, I see this guys face and the article reads that this guy is connected to 9-11...
I can't help but think 'WTHell if this guy was associated with 9-11, why hasn't he been questioned about that connection?? They would have pictures a dossier, it probably would have even been announced on the news...
We should just face reality that the most likely scenario is that this guy was using anti-depressant drugs and had a psychotic episode of a side-effect for whatever reason.... it's the case in just about every school shooting there's ever been in the US ... as well as canada...
Now, this guy needs to be held accountable for his actions... but a greater question (ONCE this is determined concretely) is how come this drugs are still being sold publicly and prescribed when they have such dire potential consequences (it' even been added to their drug insert).