1 in 16 U.S. women say first sexual experience was rape in their teen years

[GhostlyJoe]

Ask the person that didn't want to have sex.

Which is no standard of justice at all. By that standard, all accusations are automatic convictions, since the nature of the offense is subjective to the offended.

 

[Angel]

Join us in the present...no means no.

Well, in the present "Yes" doesn't mean Yes anymore, thanks to the political activism of radical feminism and its progressive touts.
By the same logic of your politicized semantics, it must follow then, pari passu. that "No" doesn't necessarily mean No, no?
As in the previous sentence, yes?

 

[mrjurrs]

Well, in the present "Yes" doesn't mean Yes anymore, thanks to the political activism of radical feminism and its progressive touts.
By the same logic of your politicized semantics, it must follow then, pari passu. that "No" doesn't necessarily mean No, no?
As in the previous sentence, yes?

I disagree. Maybe if misogynistic men and their conservative props listened to women we wouldn't be in this situation.

 

[eman623]

Join us in the present...no means no.

And if you ask again and she says yes..., it's RAPE!

 

[eman623]

Please, it's ludicrous to quibble over how many men. :roll:

I don't think it's ludicrous to quibble over the number of men who will do "everything and anything" (which presumably includes force) to get sex.

And we're back to: a teen girl may not consider it rape but that doesnt mean it's not statutory rape.

I'm tired of the circles. Either refer to actual data or desist. At least I'm basing my speculation on reality and not defensiveness over how this threatens some males.

Show me in in this study where it specifically equates statutory rape with non-statutory rape with force or verbal pressure.

 

[Lursa]

I don't think it's ludicrous to quibble over the number of men who will do "everything and anything" (which presumably includes force) to get sex.

:doh Ok then...please, feel free to show me the statistics on that.

:lamo

Show me in in this study where it specifically equates statutory rape with non-statutory rape with force or verbal pressure.

It specifically does not EXCLUDE it yet it made no distinction between teen years of minority and teen years of majority. So this definitely means *some* were statutory rape.

So we dont know...so you need to look at the study data/.

 

[Rich2018]

I give up. You tell me.

So you admit you were wrong about your assumption regarding liberalism and economics.
Good.

The question wasn't rhetorical

You made a claim that liberals define rape that isn't rape. I was asking you if you had any numbers for conservatives.
Since you give up I can assume you don't and that was yet another bogus claim you pulled out of thin air like the content of most of your posts.

 

[Angel]

Join us in the present...no means no.

Well, in the present "Yes" doesn't mean Yes anymore, thanks to the political activism of radical feminism and its progressive touts.
By the same logic of your politicized semantics, it must follow then, pari passu. that "No" doesn't necessarily mean No, no?
As in the previous sentence, yes?

I disagree. Maybe if misogynistic men and their conservative props listened to women we wouldn't be in this situation.

You disagree? So to your mind "Yes" means Yes?

 

[Oborosen]

An unwanted sexual advance is assault. What is a cat call? An unwanted sexual advance.

Great, I can claim that six of the women, whom I work with have done as such to me. I hope they enjoy having their lives and careers ruined, after such claims gain more precedence.

...this kind of loose interpretation of any law, can't obviously ever backfire.

 

[eman623]

So you admit you were wrong about your assumption regarding liberalism and economics.
Good.

The question wasn't rhetorical

You made a claim that liberals define rape that isn't rape. I was asking you if you had any numbers for conservatives.
Since you give up I can assume you don't and that was yet another bogus claim you pulled out of thin air like the content of most of your posts.

LOL. You are a pyromaniac in a field of strawmen.

I just said I don't know the answer to your question. You probably don't know either.

 

[mrjurrs]

You disagree? So to your mind "Yes" means Yes?

Yes means yes

 

[mrjurrs]

Incorrect, an accusation would be investigated. Not sure where you come up with your standard of proof, lot's of people that feel they've been wronged lose at trial.

 

[mrjurrs]

Great, I can claim that six of the women, whom I work with have done as such to me. I hope they enjoy having their lives and careers ruined, after such claims gain more precedence.

...this kind of loose interpretation of any law, can't obviously ever backfire.

Yes you can claim that. Absent proof, I'd suggest your life would be the one impacted.

 

[Rich2018]

LOL. You are a pyromaniac in a field of strawmen.

I just said I don't know the answer to your question. You probably don't know either.

By all means specify any straw men

Do you now accept that liberal economics exist ?


If you don't know how many conservatives define rape that isn't rape, why post about liberals ?

Do some research and back up your claims or don't post.



I wasn't making a claim, you were. The burden of proof is on you to substantiate what you said.

 

[Angel]

Yes means yes

I agree with you. Radical feminism disagrees with us, however, and has pushed the law in a direction that disagrees with us.

 

[SDET]

It's conditional as to whether or not it's to their advantage.

The pressured into consent thing relies on the idea that women are just poor little damsels. Which I thought was what we were trying to move away from

 

[SDET]

Some men wise up and stop begging. Take a cue from corporate America: Start outsourcing/offshoring. That's what you do when qualified resources don't make themselves available. Companies solve their problems with H1B visas, men can rely on the K-1 visa!

LOL. I've been that guy saying "pretty please". Multiple times. So has every other heterosexual male on the planet. Men beg for sex.

Still not rape.

 

[Rich2018]

LOL. You are a pyromaniac in a field of strawmen.

I just said I don't know the answer to your question. You probably don't know either.

But you know enough to say that liberals (at least some) define rape that isn't rape - but when asked to say if this also applies to conservatives your answer is "I don't know"


So why make a comment on a subject about which you don't know what you're talking about by your OWN admission ?

 

[mrjurrs]

I don't see it that way. Yes means yes, but that doesn't mean someone can't change their mind to no at any point.

 

[Rich2018]

I don't see it that way. Yes means yes, but that doesn't mean someone can't change their mind to no at any point.

True

A yes might mean "only because I fear the consequences of saying "no"
Like Jews willingly walking into the "showers" during the Holocaust.




If a man decides to kill himself and jumps off a tall building but changes his mind on the way down, is it still suicide ?

 

[SDET]

Even retroactively.

I don't see it that way. Yes means yes, but that doesn't mean someone can't change their mind to no at any point.

 

[Angel]

True

A yes might mean "only because I fear the consequences of saying "no"
Like Jews willingly walking into the "showers" during the Holocaust.

If a man decides to kill himself and jumps off a tall building but changes his mind on the way down, is it still suicide ?

The depths to which the unmitigated stupidity of contemporary Liberalism runs has been captured in this Georgia peach of a post to near perfection!
I mean, a straight-faced analogy between sexual consent and the Holocaust!
You can't fake this kind of cluelessness.

 

[mrjurrs]

Even retroactively.

That would be for a jury to decide.

 

[mrjurrs]

The depths to which the unmitigated stupidity of contemporary Liberalism runs has been captured in this Georgia peach of a post to near perfection!
I mean, a straight-faced analogy between sexual consent and the Holocaust!
You can't fake this kind of cluelessness.

Really? Please explain where the analogy collapses.

 

[Angel]

Really? Please explain where the analogy collapses.

At inception.