“Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?”

[digitusmedius]

“Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?”
Nate White, a witty writer from England wrote the perfect response.

“A few things spring to mind…

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.

For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.

So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.

I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.

But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll.
And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.

Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.

Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.

Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.

He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.

He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.

That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.

There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think

‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’

is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:

Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.

You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.

After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form;

He is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of ****.
His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.

God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:

‘My God… what… have… I… created?

If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.”

This very much applies to why most Americans don't like this ****bag as well.

 

[Mr Person]

This very much applies to why most Americans don't like this ****bag as well.

And why his supporters love him.

The nastiness, the overt stupidity, the hatefulness, and more is the point. They thrive on it.

 

[Crystal]

No one on earth is nastier than a liberal or a Brit.

 

[d0gbreath]

No one on earth is nastier than a liberal or a Brit.

Or you.

 

[Grandpappy]

“Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?”

That's easy. Because the only American News they get is CNN. A.K.A Credible News? Never. Maybe Boris will allow Fox or maybe even....gasp...Rush Limbaugh!!! :shock:

 

[Luckyone]

This very much applies to why most Americans don't like this ****bag as well.

I have to say that in all the time I have been here on this board this is the first time I have wanted to give multiple recommendations to a post.

This post is the absolute best (even beating mine) about who Trump is. There is nothing in your post that the Trump supporters can deny or fight. It depicts Trump to a tee and does not do it with any hate included (like mine). It is just a clear and concise description of the kind of person that cannot even be described as a man. He is just a total piece of garbage..................that lives surrounded by a huge mound of additional garbage, none of which can understand that garbage is a bad thing. Garbage always thinks of himself in a positive way.

Thank you for that OP.

 

[Irwin Corey]

This very much applies to why most Americans don't like this ****bag as well.

That's pResident ****bag, to you.

 

[Irwin Corey]

Maybe Boris will allow Fox or maybe even....gasp...Rush Limbaugh!!!

Obviously your two favorite "nEEWWWs souses.

 

[Luckyone]

“Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?”

That's easy. Because the only American News they get is CNN. A.K.A Credible News? Never. Maybe Boris will allow Fox or maybe even....gasp...Rush Limbaugh!!! :shock:

Grandpappy, why don't you supply an answer to this post like the one you supplied in my OP Proof of Bias Updated Follow Up. You seem to have a great answer to Trump's negatives. This post of yours is about the worst answer that I have ever seen you give. C'mon, you can do better than saying it is CNN and that it is fake news. No it is not fake news given that each and everyone of the points given in the OP can be verified by simply listening to Trump talk

I am surprised at you inability to fight reality! Fake News...................Hahahahahahahahaha!

 

[Luckyone]

And why his supporters love him.

The nastiness, the overt stupidity, the hatefulness, and more is the point. They thrive on it.

Garbage attract garbage. Or like Hillary said, a Deplorable man draws other Deplorables to him. It is a magnet. God draws good people to him. Satan draws evil to him.

 

[kitsune]

And why his supporters love him.

The nastiness, the overt stupidity, the hatefulness, and more is the point. They thrive on it.

That stuff does appear to fill a void in their lives. As horrible as they are, I pity them. At least occasionally.

 

[Perotista]

This very much applies to why most Americans don't like this ****bag as well.

Trump with his obnoxious personality is a very easy man to dislike. I personally don't care for the man one bit. Here's the the question on Trump's likability, Question 52. Trump Likability - Regardless of whether you agree with him, do you like or dislike Donald Trump as a person? Only 18% of all Americans like Trump a lot, 40% dislike him a lot. Among independents which Gallup puts at 46% of the electorate as of 16 Jun 2016, 14% like Trump a lot, 36% dislike him a lot.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/xj7rpmvws8/econTabReport.pdf

I left the somewhat like and somewhat dislike out of the equation because their wishy washy and change their minds all the time. Also those who neither like or dislike. But question 52 will give you their numbers.

The question now becomes in my mind, how important is like and or dislike to a voter? Can one dislike a candidate personally and still vote for that candidate? This brings me to question 31. Generic Presidential Vote - If the election for president were held today with Donald Trump as the Republican running against a Democratic Party candidate, who would you vote for? Nationwide, 39% state the Democratic candidate, 37% Trump, 12% it depends. Independents whom Trump won in 2016 thus giving him the white house, 26% state they'll vote for the Democratic candidate, 29% for Trump with 21% it depends. There seems to be a disconnect between liking and disliking Trump and how one plans on voting.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/xj7rpmvws8/econTabReport.pdf

The number or percentage that interests me the most is the nationwide 12% who state it depends, which is 21% among independents. I take that as meaning their vote depends on whom the democrats nominate. This tells me the ball is in the democrat's court to come up with a candidate that can convince those in the it depends column to vote for their candidate. Especially among independents, the largest voting block or group. Having a candidate as disliked as Trump could very well mean a repeat of 2016 where Hillary Clinton was even more disliked by independents than Trump. Choosing a candidate who can attract the independent voter, could mean a Democratic landslide, another Hillary Clinton who couldn't attract independents, could mean four more years of Trump.

2020 is an election for the Democrats to lose, then again, so too was 2016. One can only hope the democrats learned the valuable lesson from 2016 that candidates matter. If not, we may be looking at a 2016 repeat.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Trump with his obnoxious personality is a very easy man to dislike. I personally don't care for the man one bit. Here's the the question on Trump's likability, Question 52. Trump Likability - Regardless of whether you agree with him, do you like or dislike Donald Trump as a person? Only 18% of all Americans like Trump a lot, 40% dislike him a lot. Among independents which Gallup puts at 46% of the electorate as of 16 Jun 2016, 14% like Trump a lot, 36% dislike him a lot.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/xj7rpmvws8/econTabReport.pdf

I left the somewhat like and somewhat dislike out of the equation because their wishy washy and change their minds all the time. Also those who neither like or dislike. But question 52 will give you their numbers.

The question now becomes in my mind, how important is like and or dislike to a voter? Can one dislike a candidate personally and still vote for that candidate? This brings me to question 31. Generic Presidential Vote - If the election for president were held today with Donald Trump as the Republican running against a Democratic Party candidate, who would you vote for? Nationwide, 39% state the Democratic candidate, 37% Trump, 12% it depends. Independents whom Trump won in 2016 thus giving him the white house, 26% state they'll vote for the Democratic candidate, 29% for Trump with 21% it depends. There seems to be a disconnect between liking and disliking Trump and how one plans on voting.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/xj7rpmvws8/econTabReport.pdf

The number or percentage that interests me the most is the nationwide 12% who state it depends, which is 21% among independents. I take that as meaning their vote depends on whom the democrats nominate. This tells me the ball is in the democrat's court to come up with a candidate that can convince those in the it depends column to vote for their candidate. Especially among independents, the largest voting block or group. Having a candidate as disliked as Trump could very well mean a repeat of 2016 where Hillary Clinton was even more disliked by independents than Trump. Choosing a candidate who can attract the independent voter, could mean a Democratic landslide, another Hillary Clinton who couldn't attract independents, could mean four more years of Trump.

2020 is an election for the Democrats to lose, then again, so too was 2016. One can only hope the democrats learned the valuable lesson from 2016 that candidates matter. If not, we may be looking at a 2016 repeat.

Pero, I have to ask, do independents have any breaking point at all? Or is there too much political cynicism in the air?

 

[apdst]

This very much applies to why most Americans don't like this ****bag as well.

Nobody gives a **** if the Brits like him, or not.

 

[Ikari]

No one on earth is nastier than a liberal or a Brit.

Have you read Trump's tweets? lol

 

[Crystal]

Have you read Trump's tweets? lol

Nope! What did he do? Disagree with the left?

 

[Grandpappy]

Obviously your two favorite "nEEWWWs souses.

Well, let's ask them. Any British members, can you listen to Fox News? Limbaugh? Hannity? Broadcast channel, not online.
I know you wouldn't, but can you?

 

[bongsaway]

And why his supporters love him.

The nastiness, the overt stupidity, the hatefulness, and more is the point. They thrive on it.

And every single person who does thrive on it, will deny they do.

 

[bongsaway]

They don't like him because he's a con man with no class.

 

[Ikari]

Nope! What did he do? Disagree with the left?

Just continuously crass, rude, nasty, and juvenile.

 

[Mycroft]

This very much applies to why most Americans don't like this ****bag as well.

1. There are globalists, their lobbyists and their bought and paid for politicians all over the world who's money and power are threatened by Trump. It's a no-brainer that they will hate Trump.

2. There are useful idiots all over the world who won't/can't think for themselves and who blindly follow whatever their media has to say about Trump.

3. That media...yep...part of or aligned with the globalists, their lobbyists and those bought and paid for politicians.

That, in a nutshell, is why people all over the world hate Trump. It's about the money. Trillions.

That nonsense you listed is just the rhetoric they use. Their motivation is clear.

 

[Irwin Corey]

Well, let's ask them. Any British members, can you listen to Fox News? Limbaugh? Hannity? Broadcast channel, not online.
I know you wouldn't, but can you?

I know you can't get through a day without your Faux and Lush fix … and there are OBVIOUSLY many like you … in America. Part of your/faux/lush's problem is there isn't a market for their bull**** in England. <--period

The truth is "some" == "MOST" Brits can't stand Don Vito tRump.

 

[nekrodev]

Have you read Trump's tweets? lol

Of course not. Right-wingers are either unable or unwilling to read anything - that's why we constantly have these conversations, and why they're still absolutely sure that Mueller's report exonerated Trump.

 

[Perotista]

Pero, I have to ask, do independents have any breaking point at all? Or is there too much political cynicism in the air?

I can't talk for independents. I can tell you where I come from. I don't consider myself very partisan or ideological. Although I do have my issues, usually fiscal conservative, socially liberal. I was angry as all get out at the two choice our major parties gave us in 2016. Like 9 million other independents/Americans since I'm neither a Republican nor a Democrat, I voted third party against both Trump and Clinton. I didn't give an owls hoot who won. In fact I went to bed at 10PM not bothering to watch the election results. I must admit I was shocked when I learned Trump won the next morning. I never expected that, in fact I had steeled myself to four years of Hillary.

Now I never liked Trump, I still don't. Although I'm not an anti-Trumper nor a pro-Trumper. What really turned me off was the Democrats beginning their attempt to destroy Trump the day after the election. The man hadn't even took office yet, but the democrats were in full blown destruction mode on him. I hated that, the attempted destruction of Trump more than I disliked Trump, the man. So I basically put both the democrats and Trump on ignore. I did vote Democratic in 2018, but that was for congress which I wanted more or less a check on Trump. Not to use their full congressional powers to continue to try to destroy him. Either impeach Trump or shut up about it. It's possible other independents have gotten fed up with all this anti-Trump stuff coming from the democrats 24/7, 52 weeks a year and also put them along with Trump on ignore. I don't know that to be the case, call it an educated guess.

What I think independents hate the most is the super, ultra high, partisanship and polarization of both major parties. I think a majority of independents won't be voting for Trump, but as in 2016, that doesn't mean they'll vote Democratic either. 12% of independents voted third party against both Clinton and Trump, that could rise to 20% in 2020 depending on whom the Democrats nominate. The dislike of both parties and of Trump is very, very high. Both major parties are shrinking, if you look back to Nov 2016, independents made up 36% of the electorate, as of 16 June 2019 if you believe Gallup, independents make up 46%. I think we're just sick and tired of all the feuding between parties and between Trump and the Democrats. This isn't how government and politics are suppose to work.

If I could give Pelosi and the democratic house some advice, it would be to forget all about Trump. Just legislate baby. Put forth new ideas to help solve this nations problems, put forth a positive vision of where the democrats want to take this country. I'd tell each and every democratic candidate the same. Trump's big mouth, his obnoxious and uncouth personality, his temper tantrum throwing and name calling will drive independents toward the Democrats if they concentrate on a positive message, getting things done, put forth new ideas and a vision of what they stand for. If they continue to concentrate on the removal of Trump, he could very well win in 2020. Trump is the best thing going for the Democrats, just let him be as he is digging his own hole.

Like Republicans who don't know how much Trump is disliked by America as a whole along with their party, Democrats don't know how much their party is also disliked. Especially by independents. Their shrinking party affiliation/identification numbers should tell both of them something, but apparently both are oblivious.

 

[trouble13]

I have to say that in all the time I have been here on this board this is the first time I have wanted to give multiple recommendations to a post.

This post is the absolute best (even beating mine) about who Trump is. There is nothing in your post that the Trump supporters can deny or fight. It depicts Trump to a tee and does not do it with any hate included (like mine). It is just a clear and concise description of the kind of person that cannot even be described as a man. He is just a total piece of garbage..................that lives surrounded by a huge mound of additional garbage, none of which can understand that garbage is a bad thing. Garbage always thinks of himself in a positive way.

Thank you for that OP.

Are you seriously claiming that the OP is not hateful?

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