‘Unmasking Antifa Act' Includes 15-year Prison Term Proposal

[JANFU]

When Antifa gets violent, they ought to be shot using the 2nd Amendment.

So kill them?

 

[Vox]

If someone is using a mask to protect their anonymity to commit a crime is one thing......

Duh........committing a crime is exactly what's being discussed.

Try to keep up.

 

[Vox]

‘Unmasking Antifa Act' Includes 15-year Prison Term Proposal
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By Emily Birnbaum
07/10/18

The “Unmasking Antifa Act of 2018,” legislation introduced in the House, carries a potential 15-year prison sentence for those caught engaging in behaviors typically associated with the “Antifa” movement of anti-fascist activists.
Under the act, anyone “wearing a mask” or in disguise who “injures, oppresses, threatens, or intimidates any person … in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege” would be subject to a fine or up to 15 years in prison.
The bill was introduced in the House last month but received renewed attention on Tuesday after alt-right personality Mike Cernovich encouraged his followers to call their representatives and "let them know what you think" about the legislation.

Source: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/396404-unmasking-antifa-act-includes-15-year-prison-term-proposal


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This is way behind schedule. I can't believe these DOMESTIC TERRORISTS have been allowed to operate as masked thugs trying to intimidate Americans into relinquishing their First Amendment rights. Unreal.
It might be instructive to those of us who are Progressive Marxist Socialists to examine why the Republican party was formed in the first place, and why the Democrats are called Democrats.
The original Republican argument in the 19th century is that there are some rights which are above common consensus. let's take a history lesson, one based on actions instead of meaningless diatribes by Leftists.
13th Amendment, abolishes slavery. 100% Republican support. 23% Democrat support.
14th Amendment, gives citizenship to freed slaves. 94% Republican support. 0% Democrat support.
15th Amendment, right to vote for ALL. 100% Republican support. 0% Democrat support.
The vast majority of the American people and voters are repulsed by the anarchy wrought by #Antifa in our streets just as they were after the Democrat convention in Chicago in 1968 and the riots, bombings of college campuses and the subversion of our government (which was being done by Marxist Socialists by the way) back then. Our nation teetered on the brink of collapse. But the American people rose up and said no more. Just as these domestic terrorists calling themselves Antifa today.
That said, the question NO ONE ever seems to ask and get answers to is:

Where is the money coming from to fund all of this anarchy and violence? W
here do these individuals who are hiding their faces get the money they need to live day-by-day?
How much are they reporting every year on their income tax - assuming any of them actually pay taxes?
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The flaw is that the prison sentence is not mandatory.

 

[jimbo]

Citizens absolutely have a right to anonymity when practicing their first amendment rights. A bill like this shouldn't be supported by anyone who seriously believes in the Constitution and the protection of citizens' rights to anonymity.

If someone is using a mask to protect their anonymity to commit a crime is one thing, using a mask or a disguise to practice free speech without fear from oppression from the tyranny of the majority.

They do? Where can I find that right written?

 

[HowardBThiname]

Citizens absolutely have a right to anonymity when practicing their first amendment rights. A bill like this shouldn't be supported by anyone who seriously believes in the Constitution and the protection of citizens' rights to anonymity.

If someone is using a mask to protect their anonymity to commit a crime is one thing, using a mask or a disguise to practice free speech without fear from oppression from the tyranny of the majority.

So, you support the KKK being able to march and protest with their hoods on to retain anonymity?

Fascinating.

 

[Vox]

So kill them?

Sure, if they resist arrest......it's their choice and they have to live or die with it.

:2usflag:

 

[Vox]

So, you support the KKK being able to march and protest with their hoods on to retain anonymity?

Fascinating.

Nothing fascinating about that.......as long as the KKK are not breaking the law they have that right.

 

[AliHajiSheik]

So, you support the KKK being able to march and protest with their hoods on to retain anonymity?

Fascinating.

I admit, I was blown away by that one as well. As someone on the board has something like this in their signature--freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.

 

[Lovebug]

Cancelling Halloween is next.

Don't be absurd. Those tough guys who think they can trash and harm and violate should be tough enough to show their faces, or else they must be exposed as the coward thugs they are.
Now, why again should kids and adults not be allowed to dress up for Halloween? Do they mean harm to anyone?

 

[PeteEU]

When Antifa gets violent, they ought to be shot using the 2nd Amendment.

That of course goes for the right wing terrorists as well right.. who have been violent for decades... abortion clinic bombings and killings, mass murder, political assassinations and of course KKK/Neo nazi rallies that attack and kill people.. all those should be shot as well? Oh no.. Trump pardons those right wing terrorists instead!

 

[Vox]

Muslim women wear masks constantly in an ongoing protest against human rights and Christianity and common sense.

They are not violent so it's perfectly legal........so far.

 

[Lovebug]

Citizens absolutely have a right to anonymity when practicing their first amendment rights. A bill like this shouldn't be supported by anyone who seriously believes in the Constitution and the protection of citizens' rights to anonymity.

If someone is using a mask to protect their anonymity to commit a crime is one thing, using a mask or a disguise to practice free speech without fear from oppression from the tyranny of the majority.

Peaceful and righteous protest, and exercising 1st A rights, doesn't require anonymity.

 

[HowardBThiname]

Nothing fascinating about that.......as long as the KKK are not breaking the law they have that right.

Actually they don't -- not everywhere. It's either 15 or 18 states that have "unmasking" laws that prevent that.

 

[HowardBThiname]

Muslim women wear masks constantly in an ongoing protest against human rights and Christianity and common sense.

They are not violent so it's perfectly legal........so far.

Now, that I'd like to see end. It makes me sick to my stomach to see those women treated like second class citizens. And, the BS about them "choosing" is just that -- BS. Look at how women in Iran chose to dress until the Mullahs took over and forced them under layers of fabric.

 

[American]

That of course goes for the right wing terrorists as well right.. who have been violent for decades... abortion clinic bombings and killings, mass murder, political assassinations and of course KKK/Neo nazi rallies that attack and kill people.. all those should be shot as well? Oh no.. Trump pardons those right wing terrorists instead!

As disgusting as they are, guess what..............................................they had a ****ing permit to be there.

 

[American]

So kill them?

Can you not read? It's called self-defense.

 

[PeteEU]

As disgusting as they are, guess what..............................................they had a ****ing permit to be there.

Congrats on defending neo nazis...

 

[Zyphlin]

Yeah, not a fan of "lets criminalize things that are already criminalized, but do it MORE EXTREME!!!!!"

Not seeing the point of this at all. Threatening someone or assaulting someone isn't suddenly "worse" because you're wearing a mask. Nor I do necessarily see ANTIFA's actions as necessarily "terrorism".

 

[cabse5]

Citizens absolutely have a right to anonymity when practicing their first amendment rights. A bill like this shouldn't be supported by anyone who seriously believes in the Constitution and the protection of citizens' rights to anonymity.

If someone is using a mask to protect their anonymity to commit a crime is one thing, using a mask or a disguise to practice free speech without fear from oppression from the tyranny of the majority.

Anonymity, yes. Destruction and disallowing of another's civil liberties, no. Why hasn't anti FA and similar destructive groups not been prosecuted?

 

[cabse5]

Congrats on defending neo nazis...

If you're defending anti FA you're defending neo-Nazis.

 

[Zyphlin]

Congrats on defending neo nazis...

These kind of response were dumb when people make them towards lawyers or the ACLU when they're protecting subjectively scummy people, and it's dumb here to.

I can't/couldn't stand neo-nazi's, westboro baptist, ANTIFA, the "Bush is a Nazi" types, etc...but defending their rights when they are acting within the law isn't just needed, but integral, if one truly believes in those rights because ultimately things like the right to assembly and the right to free speech are rendered worthless and hollow if they're disregarded or ignored simply because those assembling or the speech being uttered are things that are viewed at the time as detestable.

I may not agree with the ACLU on various things or how the manner in which they view some rights, but I don't blame them for defending people when it falls within the scope of their princples because that's what having principles, at times, means.

 

[late]

These kind of response were dumb when people make them towards lawyers or the ACLU when they're protecting subjectively scummy people, and it's dumb here to.

I can't/couldn't stand neo-nazi's, westboro baptist, ANTIFA, the "Bush is a Nazi" types, etc...but defending their rights when they are acting within the law isn't just needed, but integral, if one truly believes in those rights because ultimately things like the right to assembly and the right to free speech are rendered worthless and hollow if they're disregarded or ignored simply because those assembling or the speech being uttered are things that are viewed at the time as detestable.

I may not agree with the ACLU on various things or how the manner in which they view some rights, but I don't blame them for defending people when it falls within the scope of their princples because that's what having principles, at times, means.

I'm an ACLU member, which just means I throw them a bone once a year, it's not much. And I do it for moments like this, when a sadist is using the pwer of the state to abuse children.

You may not like Antifa, but they do slow the racists down. There would have been more deaths, possibly a lot more, at Charlottesville without them.

 

[CMPancake]

Are these guys up to no-good?

So, you support the KKK being able to march and protest with their hoods on to retain anonymity?

Fascinating.

Yes, I fully believe that you Trump supporters should be more than allowed to attend protests and rallies with your hoods and bed sheets.

Peaceful and righteous protest, and exercising 1st A rights, doesn't require anonymity.

It may not require anonymity, but if someone feels they need to protect their identity then they should be able to do so.

Apples and oranges:

"...Ohio statute that prohibits anonymous political or campaign literature is unconstitutional."

I am not the least bit surprised you don't understand how the Supreme Court, and rulings work. I wish I could explain it to you, I really do. But I'm afraid I don't have the time and HowardBThaine ate all my crayons.

 

[Lovebug]

Yes, I fully believe that you Trump supporters should be more than allowed to attend protests and rallies with your hoods and bed sheets.



It may not require anonymity, but if someone feels they need to protect their identity then they should be able to do so.



I am not the least bit surprised you don't understand how the Supreme Court, and rulings work. I wish I could explain it to you, I really do. But I'm afraid I don't have the time and HowardBThaine ate all my crayons.

not unless their are cowards and ashamed of their actions...or paid mobs. Protest peacefully and you won't have to hide who you are.

 

[CMPancake]

Then you'd agree that Ku Klux Klan members also have the right to wear their robes and hoods? The law was originally created to curb the Democrat KKK'ers. It's been modified for the 21st Century to include Antifa.


See:
Ku Klux Act passed by Congress - Apr 20, 1871 - history.com
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/ku-klux-act-passed-by...
With passage of the Third Force Act, popularly known as the Ku Klux Act, Congress authorizes President Ulysses S. Grant to declare martial law, impose heavy penalties against terrorist organizations, and use military force to suppress the Ku Klux Klan (KKK).


The Unmasking Antifa Act of 2018


https://www.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2018/07/10/antifa-12p3p213p1p31p3p13p13p-1200x631.jpg

Again, yes I fully believe that Trump supporters should be allowed to wear their hoods and bed sheets. The act of wearing bed sheets and hoods isn't a crime, it's when they can run their cars into protests in the hopes to murder someone is when their is a legal problem.