‘I am dreaming of a way to kill almost every last person on earth’

[apdst]

That's true. But it's no coincidence that we're seeing a lot more of these extreme rightwing "nut jobs" in the era of MAGA.

Oh?...

CNN) James T. Hodgkinson, the man identified as shooting a Republican member of congress and four others on Wednesday morning, was a small business owner in Illinois who defined himself publicly by his firm support of Bernie Sanders' progressive politics -- and his hatred of conservatives and President Donald Trump.

James T. Hodgkinson: Bernie Sanders supporter, strongly anti-Trump - CNN

 

[Lutherf]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...51b7ff322e9_story.html?utm_term=.cb0704fd4682

Here we are again. Yet another extreme right wing terrorist with big plans. Of course, the people who feed this kind of human garbage the material that nurtures his hate is the rightwing pukefunnel of lies and racism in this country--the Limbaughs, the Alex Joneses, Breitbart, Fox"News" etc., etc., etc. And soon to follow are all of our little rightwing furballs on fora like this who will be "whatabouting" their tiny little heads off: "whatabout Antifa!!!; whatabout, liberals!!!!; whatabout blacks who sound angry and SCARE US!!!!" It always plays out this way--the desperate effort to construct false equivalents.

Yeah. Maybe it’s time to start putting right wingers in jail preemptively. There is an obvious public interest in promoting public safety and jailing people who are, obviously, a reasonable threat would be a good first step, right?

 

[Rickeroo]

Thats weird. I wonder why its just all the towns that I lived that mexican gangsters do the drivebys and shooting other mexican kids walking home from school.

It's important not to confuse overall murder rate by race with the "mass shooting rate" aspect. Whites are just about the middle when it comes to mass shootings - not good, not bad. Hispanics are good - better than whites. Arabs are the worst.

While true that I'm statistically more likely to be mass shot by a white person, it's merely because whites outnumber other races handily. If I moved into a black area to avoid white mass shootings, I'd both be statically more likely to be mass-shot or single-shot, based on the crime rate of blacks. I'd also be more likely to be mass-shot if I moved into an Arab area.

I'd be safer from mass shootings if I moved into a Hispanic area, but unfortunately that would be more than countered by the increase in single-shot violent crime rate I would encounter.

 

[dirtpoorchris]

First, I wasn't looking for another crazy white nazi/racist guy bent on mass murder and second, they aren't that hard to find. But playing the black on black violence card is a classic "whatabout" of the rightwing and it has very racist stench. The main one is that the people who play that card don't give a **** about the tragedy of this violence and, in fact, support efforts by the NRA and other rabid rightwing gutter dwelling organizations to block any measures that would make access to handguns more difficult in inner cities.

City wide open carry gun bans are horrible. Look at New York. One of the highest crime zones in the world. And none are even allowed to carry a gun in that city!

 

[dirtpoorchris]

You just keep digging that hole you're standing in deeper.

I mean I dunno why you wanna ignore the fact that the mexican populace is number 1 in drive by shootings, gang related. Its not racist to acknowledge this.

 

[Felis Leo]

You can thank your fellow Liberals for that. They made a big deal out of the "attack", now y'all have to eat some **** because of it.

I've already called this clown a nutjob. I'll add that he should get life, maybe the death penalty. WTF else do you want??

You can only be absolved of your right-wing nutjobedness if you vote Democrat, apdst. That is the holy sacrament that will wash away all of your sins. If you engaged in racist activities in the past? Perhaps you wore a little blackface when you were in college? Your absolution can be found through voting Democratic (or being a Democratic politician). Perhaps you did something extraordinarily wicked, like take sexual advantage of a female colleague? Again, just be a Democrat, and be freed of your sins. Heck, newspapers will even barely print any allegations after about a week if you just see the light and walk the straight and narrow path of being a Democrat. :roll:

 

[digitusmedius]

I mean I dunno why you wanna ignore the fact that the mexican populace is number 1 in drive by shootings, gang related. Its not racist to acknowledge this.

It's not so much ignoring your BS but pointing out how you just slap it up on here and expect it to sprout wings and fly.

 

[digitusmedius]

You can only be absolved of your right-wing nutjobedness if you vote Democrat, apdst. That is the holy sacrament that will wash away all of your sins. If you engaged in racist activities in the past? Perhaps you wore a little blackface when you were in college? Your absolution can be found through voting Democratic (or being a Democratic politician). Perhaps you did something extraordinarily wicked, like take sexual advantage of a female colleague? Again, just be a Democrat, and be freed of your sins. Heck, newspapers will even barely print any allegations after about a week if you just see the light and walk the straight and narrow path of being a Democrat. :roll:

While you rightwingers gloat over what's happening to Dems, you might keep in mind it's just a matter of time (and it's already happening--see below) before we find yearbooks and other photo sources of plenty of your republican scumbags having participated in the same "antics" In fact, already today the R governor of KY has had pictures of him dressed in a rebel uniform (i.e., the uniform of treason and slavery) at in 1980. Since most republicans older than 50 years in the South used to be Dixiecrats you're going to be in for a rough ride.

 

[Felis Leo]

While you rightwingers gloat over what's happening to Dems, you might keep in mind it's just a matter of time (and it's already happening--see below) before we find yearbooks and other photo sources of plenty of your republican scumbags having participated in the same "antics" In fact, already today the R governor of KY has had pictures of him dressed in a rebel uniform (i.e., the uniform of treason and slavery) at in 1980. Since most republicans older than 50 years in the South used to be Dixiecrats you're going to be in for a rough ride.

I was being tongue-in-cheek. I actually do not care about hurtful racist antics like those of Governor Northam, digitusmedius, so long as those who committed the acts are apologetic and do not appear to still hold the beliefs that led them to thinking that behavior was okay, I think we should summon the grace to let bygones be bygones. But if voters do not want those politicians with such a history representing them, that is their decision to make.

On the other hand, I really care about politicians' past engagement in harmful, criminal and abusive conduct, such as sexual abuse of their colleagues and employees. It is why I think figures like Trump and Clinton have stained the office of the presidency. And why (though I want to wait until I see and hear all the facts) Justin Fairfax may have stained the office of Virginia's Lieutenant Governorship with his presence.

 

[digitusmedius]

City wide open carry gun bans are horrible. Look at New York. One of the highest crime zones in the world. And none are even allowed to carry a gun in that city!

First off, open-carry has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Secondly, that's more pure BS from you about NYC. It ranks 82nd in the US for homicides List of United States cities by crime rate - Wikipedia so it obviously wouldn't make the top 50 most violent cities in the entire world The 50 most violent cities in the world - Business Insider. I can't find a list of 100 but I strongly suspect NYC wouldn't be on that one either. Stop spreading lies and maybe you'll get some respect. Otherwise....nah.

 

[sanman]

Stochastic terrorism.

Stochastic terrorism is no different than lone wolf terrorism - the Left simply seem to be coining a new phrase to make it their own.

The emphasis they want to make is that free speech should not be tolerated, because speech leads to terrorism. They're trying to go beyond Oliver Wendell Holmes.

In which case, the Koran is stochastic terrorism.

 

[digitusmedius]

I was being tongue-in-cheek. I actually do not care about hurtful racist antics like those of Governor Northam, digitusmedius, so long as those who committed the acts are apologetic and do not appear to still hold the beliefs that led them to thinking that behavior was okay, I think we should summon the grace to let bygones be bygones. But if voters do not want those politicians with such a history representing them, that is their decision to make.

On the other hand, I really care about politicians' past engagement in harmful, criminal and abusive conduct, such as sexual abuse of their colleagues and employees. It is why I think figures like Trump and Clinton have stained the office of the presidency. And why (though I want to wait until I see and hear all the facts) Justin Fairfax may have stained the office of Virginia's Lieutenant Governorship with his presence.

Okay, i guess I'll take your word for the claim that you were being ironic. It was very well hidden by the multiple slaps at Dems. I sure don't see Dems giving "absolution" to it's offenders. Quite the opposite in reality. For example, the calls from Dems for Northam AND Farifax to resign were immediate (and still persist). Whether either or both do or not is another matter.

 

[digitusmedius]

Yeah. Maybe it’s time to start putting right wingers in jail preemptively. There is an obvious public interest in promoting public safety and jailing people who are, obviously, a reasonable threat would be a good first step, right?

If that were true, the jails would have overflowed long ago with criminal trumpsters so whining about them not getting due process is the usual infantile hypocrisy from the mob who screamed "lock her up" on no evidence or basis (other than political) whatsoever. In fact, in Roger Stone's case, he'd be in jail right now were it not for the judge's attempt to go out of her way to make sure she couldn't be accused of being slanted. If you're thinking holding this latest nazi in jail is unjust that tells us something about you that you might not wanted us to know. He may, in fact, still get bail over the next week of so although I'm sure he'd have to at least wear a monitor. I'd consider him an extremely high flight risk.

 

[DH Kirkwood]

I was being tongue-in-cheek. I actually do not care about hurtful racist antics like those of Governor Northam, digitusmedius, so long as those who committed the acts are apologetic and do not appear to still hold the beliefs that led them to thinking that behavior was okay, I think we should summon the grace to let bygones be bygones. But if voters do not want those politicians with such a history representing them, that is their decision to make.

On the other hand, I really care about politicians' past engagement in harmful, criminal and abusive conduct, such as sexual abuse of their colleagues and employees. It is why I think figures like Trump and Clinton have stained the office of the presidency. And why (though I want to wait until I see and hear all the facts) Justin Fairfax may have stained the office of Virginia's Lieutenant Governorship with his presence.

I don't know anything about Governor Northam, so I have nothing to say about whether or not he has ''reformed' or is currently a bigot, but I'm inclined to agree with the point, regardless. I'm hoping that Tulsi Gabbard runs as Sanders running gate, it's well-known that, at one time, her views on homosexuality were, in my opinion, pretty awful. I would not support her at all if I felt that she hadn't sufficiently shown herself to have evolved on the issue. I do not feel the same way about HRC, and will tote out the 'bring them to heel' line every time someone tries to convince me to like her.

I'm not even going to touch the left-wing vs right-wing white/minority terrorism/acts-of-violence debate. My perception is worthless and I don't have all day to try to track down and compare numbers, and other people are better at that sort of thing, anyway.

 

[Phys251]

Stochastic terrorism is no different than lone wolf terrorism - the Left simply seem to be coining a new phrase to make it their own.

Prove that they are different or retract your claim.

The emphasis they want to make is that free speech should not be tolerated,

Oh, look, it's the "liberals hate the 1st Amendment" meme. I'm sure you oppose your president's hatred of the freedoms covered by the First Amendment. :roll:

because speech leads to terrorism. They're trying to go beyond Oliver Wendell Holmes.

In which case, the Koran is stochastic terrorism.

Prove with supporting documentation.

 

[Phys251]

I don't know anything about Governor Northam, so I have nothing to say about whether or not he has ''reformed' or is currently a bigot, but I'm inclined to agree with the point, regardless. I'm hoping that Tulsi Gabbard runs as Sanders running gate

*mate. If we run Sanders-Gabbard then we will get crushed in 2020. Hate to break it to you but not every American is as fired up about Sanders as you are.

 

[sangha]

Yeah. Maybe it’s time to start putting right wingers in jail preemptively. There is an obvious public interest in promoting public safety and jailing people who are, obviously, a reasonable threat would be a good first step, right?

There's no need to throw those dangerous right wingers in jail.

Let's just make them illegal and deport them.

But we can separate them from their children and lock THEM up!!

 

[sangha]

You can only be absolved of your right-wing nutjobedness if you vote Democrat, apdst. That is the holy sacrament that will wash away all of your sins. If you engaged in racist activities in the past? Perhaps you wore a little blackface when you were in college? Your absolution can be found through voting Democratic (or being a Democratic politician). Perhaps you did something extraordinarily wicked, like take sexual advantage of a female colleague? Again, just be a Democrat, and be freed of your sins. Heck, newspapers will even barely print any allegations after about a week if you just see the light and walk the straight and narrow path of being a Democrat. :roll:

Well, we did have one poster who pretended to be black hoping it would protect him from being called a racist when he posted anti- black screeds

 

[digitusmedius]

I'm betting this topic gets about 10% of the word count racked up by a half-wit actor and his attention-whore stunts, the lunatic right being as selective and as verbose as they are.

"Bothsiderism" must be the rule no matter how absurd the comparison is. Therefore rightwing terrorist assassination plotter = stupid actor's* faked assault to get paid more.

*also black which raises it to a hangin' offense for these types.

 

[digitusmedius]

*mate. If we run Sanders-Gabbard then we will get crushed in 2020. Hate to break it to you but not every American is as fired up about Sanders as you are.

I was certainly surprised by how many of his base were just waiting for his announcement. Raising $6M in two days after that is pretty impressive. I think there are several progressive candidates who would be better choices but it looks like Sanders has a better chance than I thought he'd have.

 

[sanman]

Prove that they are different or retract your claim.

Uhh, genius - I was the one saying they're NOT different, but you want me to prove otherwise?

Oh, look, it's the "liberals hate the 1st Amendment" meme. I'm sure you oppose your president's hatred of the freedoms covered by the First Amendment. :roll:

You're the ones creating and reinforcing the memes through your positions. Liberals should just rearrange their spelling to Libelers.

Prove with supporting documentation.

No, you first.

 

[Phys251]

Uhh, genius - I was the one saying they're NOT different, but you want me to prove otherwise?

That is not a proof of your claim that "stochastic terrorism is no different than lone wolf terrorism." Prove your claim or retract it.

You're the ones creating and reinforcing the memes through your positions. Liberals should just rearrange their spelling to Libelers.

Already to the juvenile insults and broad-brush painting I see. :lol:

No, you first.

You made the extraordinary claim that "the Koran is stochastic terrorism." If you expect to be taken seriously, then you will prove that claim. So let's see that proof. Now.

 

[chuckiechan]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...51b7ff322e9_story.html?utm_term=.cb0704fd4682

Here we are again. Yet another extreme right wing terrorist with big plans. Of course, the people who feed this kind of human garbage the material that nurtures his hate is the rightwing pukefunnel of lies and racism in this country--the Limbaughs, the Alex Joneses, Breitbart, Fox"News" etc., etc., etc. And soon to follow are all of our little rightwing furballs on fora like this who will be "whatabouting" their tiny little heads off: "whatabout Antifa!!!; whatabout, liberals!!!!; whatabout blacks who sound angry and SCARE US!!!!" It always plays out this way--the desperate effort to construct false equivalents.

"Go big or go home"

 

[digitusmedius]

"Go big or go home"

Either that's your idea of being cute or you're mourning the capture of one of yours. In the latter case, there's probably a dragnet in process right now so this might be the time to lay low instead of brazening it out on a forum like this.

 

[digitusmedius]

Stochastic terrorism is no different than lone wolf terrorism - the Left simply seem to be coining a new phrase to make it their own.

It seems the term "stochastic" suggests that the terrorist actor while not part being a part of any terrorist cell is heavily influenced by extreme propagandists, e.g. InfoWars' Alex [pig****] Jones.

The emphasis they want to make is that free speech should not be tolerated, because speech leads to terrorism. They're trying to go beyond Oliver Wendell Holmes.

In which case, the Koran is stochastic terrorism.

As is also the case with the Old Testament.