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Ikari said:
I was pretty sure everything on the South Side was an abomination

lol
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I think your post goes to show how due to the large geographic size of Chicago, along with a host of other factors, there are regional culinary differences within the city itself!

What we've described in this thread concerning the differences in Chicago pizza, extends very much to Polish food as well, where the South-side Polish food tends more to the Goral tradition. The Goral are the Poles from the far south of Poland in the Tatra mountains, where it borders the Czech Republic. It is mountain cooking, and has some distinct differences from Northern & Central Poland. In fact, the International Association for the Goral culture is still located on the South-side! The Polish National Alliance, representing Polish culture as a whole, is somewhat befittingly located on the North-side.

And so it goes ...
 
Chomsky said:
I think your post goes to show how due to the large geographic size of Chicago, along with a host of other factors, there are regional culinary differences within the city itself!

What we've described in this thread concerning the differences in Chicago pizza, extends very much to Polish food as well, where the South-side Polish food tends more to the Goral tradition. The Goral are the Poles from the far south of Poland in the Tatra mountains, where it borders the Czech Republic. It is mountain cooking, and has some distinct differences from Northern & Central Poland. In fact, the International Association for the Goral culture is still located on the South-side! The Polish National Alliance, representing Polish culture as a whole, is somewhat befittingly located on the North-side.

And so it goes ...
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Did not know this... what’s the difference between the two, and where is the best restaurants for each?

I just thought polish restaurants were all about the same...
 
Helix said:
haven't been to NYC, so i can't say for sure. however, Chicago food is awesome. around the neighborhood my wife used to live in, you could set out on foot and try a different awesome restaurant every night. tons of independent stores, too. it was like time traveling back to the 1970s before superstores finally ran downtown shops out of business.
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PoS said:
lolwhut? L.A. has great weather, Hollywood, theme parks, beaches and stuff. I mean, I like the Bears and the Cubbies, but what does Chicago have? NY is a sardine can.
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In terms of living in the States, one thing found in NYC, Chicago, Boston, San Francisco, and perhaps a few other older East Coast cities (Philly), but not many places else - including L.A. - is people-friendly fully functional self-contained walkable neighborhoods. Chicago abounds in these neighborhoods, as it is a city of neighborhoods, many with their own culture or ethnicity, and quite a few more of varied ethnicity but having a definitive culture & demographics.

And importantly for many, social opportunities - of all sorts - are in easy abundance.

Unless one actually experiences urban neighborhood life of this type - not saying you haven't - it's impossible to adequately describe it. The convenience, vibrancy, cultural & artistic enrichment, and general fun & joy-of-life experiences, can be magical!

Urban living of this type is not for everyone. But if it's for you, you will never feel more alive! :thumbs:
 
Chomsky said:
In terms of living in the States, one thing found in NYC, Chicago, Boston, San Francisco, and perhaps a few other older East Coast cities (Philly), but not many places else - including L.A. - is people-friendly fully functional self-contained walkable neighborhoods. Chicago abounds in these neighborhoods, as it is a city of neighborhoods, many with their own culture or ethnicity, and quite a few more of varied ethnicity but having a definitive culture & demographics.

And importantly for many, social opportunities - of all sorts - are in easy abundance.

Unless one actually experiences urban neighborhood life of this type - not saying you haven't - it's impossible to adequately describe it. The convenience, vibrancy, cultural & artistic enrichment, and general fun & joy-of-life experiences, can be magical!

Urban living of this type is not for everyone. But if it's for you, you will never feel more alive! :thumbs:
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Thats false. The beaches in LA are walkable- plenty of restaurants and hot women can be found there, plus the best thing is everyone in LA has a car. I have been to NYC and Chicago and there's nothing special about it- I sure as hell wouldn't be caught walking around the South Side. Being surrounded by blocks and blocks of ornery buildings isn't fun- maybe it is for you, but its not for me. If I want walkable cities, I'd stay in Europe, way way better and safer.
 
Threegoofs said:
Did not know this... what’s the difference between the two, and where is the best restaurants for each?

I just thought polish restaurants were all about the same...
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Why not go to the Polish Highlander's Association (Dom Podhalan), itself? On Archer, just south of 47th? They serve food in the bar, at tables & the bar itself.

The food will be pretty similar, though with slight differences. There's dill weed often used, and the Kapusta (sauerkraut) soup will be a mostly a clear broth, with large chunks of potatoes and a small piece of pork rib in the broth. Potato pancakes are usually very thin. It's little things like that. You just might find the food a touch more flavorful, than much of the run-of-the-mill Polish - hopefully.

The bar-food is a side show for the real business - banquet parties! So call first, to ascertain food hours. Also, the neighborhood is no longer Polish for the most part, much less Goral. On the flip-side, you can hit-up Leon's Ribs a couple of blocks down Archer, just north of 47th, for some links to take home!

Yelp: Polish Highlander Alliance of North America
 
PoS said:
Thats false. The beaches in LA are walkable- plenty of restaurants and hot women can be found there, plus the best thing is everyone in LA has a car I have been to NYC and Chicago and there's nothing special about it- I sure as hell wouldn't be caught walking around the South Side. Being surrounded by blocks and blocks of ornery buildings isn't fun- maybe it is for you, but its not for me.
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I'm not going to get into a Chicago vs L.A. pissing contest, that's definitely not my intention. But a walkable beach-front, is not the same as having an abundance of self-contained, self-sufficient, full amenity and functional walkable neighborhoods like Chicago or NY.

One prevalent missing feature in L.A., is a fully functional public transportation infrastructure. It's difficult to function in L.A. without a car. Whereas in quite a few Chicago or NY neighbor hoods, it's not just a piece-of-cake but it's the preferred choice. This is even more prevalent with the advent of ride-share.

As to being in urban architectural canyons, well beauty & aesthetics is in the eye of the beholder. High population and business + amenity density, may not be for everyone. But it is for some.

Look, I'm not saying one lifestyle is better than the other. I'm just pointing-out there are only a few places in America that offer this lifestyle, if you want it.

If I want walkable cities, I'd stay in Europe, way way better and safer.
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Well, of course, but that requires expatting to Europe, whereas I was referencing Stateside.
 
Chomsky said:
Urban living of this type is not for everyone. But if it's for you, you will never feel more alive! :thumbs:
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Urban living for me, in general, is not desirable. But I do miss Chicago...not the weather or its government, but the city. It's nice. I lived in NJ for some time as well, and often frequented NYC. It's not the same, and I didn't really like NYC that much. There are some really nice things there, I did love their varied museums and such. But I had about an 8 hour limit with it, after 8 hours, I'd rather be in Jersey, lol.

Chicago is a great city and I found the people, at least as far as city folk are concerned, to be far more personable. I like the sights, the people, the culture, the food a lot more there than other places. That being said, in terms of "city" these days, Denver is about as big as I like to go. It's nowhere on the scale of NYC, Chicago, or LA...but I certainly like it that way. Denver is a great place too. But people in this state cannot drive. At all. Ever.
 
Chomsky said:
Why not go to the Polish Highlander's Association (Dom Podhalan), itself? On Archer, just south of 47th? They serve food in the bar, at tables & the bar itself.

The food will be pretty similar, though with slight differences. There's dill weed often used, and the Kapusta (sauerkraut) soup will be a mostly a clear broth, with large chunks of potatoes and a small piece of pork rib in the broth. Potato pancakes are usually very thin. It's little things like that. You just might find the food a touch more flavorful, than much of the run-of-the-mill Polish - hopefully.

The bar-food is a side show for the real business - banquet parties! So call first, to ascertain food hours. Also, the neighborhood is no longer Polish for the most part, much less Goral. On the flip-side, you can hit-up Leon's Ribs a couple of blocks down Archer, just north of 47th, for some links to take home!

Yelp: Polish Highlander Alliance of North America
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Ah, yes. Highlander Polish. I understand now. It’s more like Slovak cooking. The place I get it is the old Baby Doll Polka Club on Central and 63rd.

But I’m not too far from Archer and 47th, so I may hit the place up one day. Maybe I can get some contacts at the bar to get a new cleaning lady...
 
Ikari said:
Urban living for me, in general, is not desirable. But I do miss Chicago...not the weather or its government, but the city. It's nice. I lived in NJ for some time as well, and often frequented NYC. It's not the same, and I didn't really like NYC that much. There are some really nice things there, I did love their varied museums and such. But I had about an 8 hour limit with it, after 8 hours, I'd rather be in Jersey, lol.

Chicago is a great city and I found the people, at least as far as city folk are concerned, to be far more personable. I like the sights, the people, the culture, the food a lot more there than other places. That being said, in terms of "city" these days, Denver is about as big as I like to go. It's nowhere on the scale of NYC, Chicago, or LA...but I certainly like it that way. Denver is a great place too. But people in this state cannot drive. At all. Ever.
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I didn't know you were the museum type. I figured your praise of urban living would be isolated to pizza and beer, the things we all need.

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Ikari said:
Urban living for me, in general, is not desirable. But I do miss Chicago...not the weather or its government, but the city. It's nice. I lived in NJ for some time as well, and often frequented NYC. It's not the same, and I didn't really like NYC that much. There are some really nice things there, I did love their varied museums and such. But I had about an 8 hour limit with it, after 8 hours, I'd rather be in Jersey, lol.

Chicago is a great city and I found the people, at least as far as city folk are concerned, to be far more personable. I like the sights, the people, the culture, the food a lot more there than other places. That being said, in terms of "city" these days, Denver is about as big as I like to go. It's nowhere on the scale of NYC, Chicago, or LA...but I certainly like it that way. Denver is a great place too. But people in this state cannot drive. At all. Ever.
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1st time in my life I ever heard someone say they rather be in Jersey. ;)
 
ecofarm said:
Pizza Hut sucks. Papa John's far superior. This is a lose - lose.
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Both suck. Do not ever use Papa John's and "superior" in a sentence again.
 
ecofarm said:
Pizza Hut uses canned mushrooms, John's uses fresh. No one wants canned mushrooms.
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Pizza Hut has used fresh for years.
 
Thorgasm said:
Pizza Hut has used fresh for years.
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Well, you're an expert on cheap garbage because that's what you like. I wouldn't know, I only eat good food.




:D
 
Reformedfindlay said:
I live in the Northeast, they both suck balls. Every two blocks up here is what might as well be a nationally renowned pizza place.
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Pizza is something that tastes good enough when mass produced but can be oh so freaking good when hand prepared. I have a local pizza place that costs me more, but I can't bring myself to order anything else becaue it isn't going to be as good. It can't be.
 
ecofarm said:
Well, you're an expert on cheap garbage because that's what you like. I wouldn't know, I only eat good food.




:D
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I have a friend who works there. I haven't eaten it in years.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
1st time in my life I ever heard someone say they rather be in Jersey. ;)
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Well I do suppose it would depend on which part of Jersey. I lived in Sussex county, and it was actually rather nice there.
 
Threegoofs said:
Ah, yes. Highlander Polish. I understand now. It’s more like Slovak cooking. The place I get it is the old Baby Doll Polka Club on Central and 63rd.

But I’m not too far from Archer and 47th, so I may hit the place up one day. Maybe I can get some contacts at the bar to get a new cleaning lady...
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If you have any Goral bloodline from either grandparent down, they may ask you to join the association! Seriously.

And on a related note, if you've got any Italian blood, the National Italian American Sports Hall of Fame on Taylor & Loomis will comp your admission's fee!

(when approached appropriately)
 
Thorgasm said:
I have a friend who works there. I haven't eaten it in years.
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I was referencing earlier events in the thread. I'm not sure what to do with your response. Either you're not playing along or I'm bad at ad lib.
 
Chomsky said:
If you have any Goral bloodline from either grandparent down, they may ask you to join the association! Seriously.

And on a related note, if you've got any Italian blood, the National Italian American Sports Hall of Fame on Taylor & Loomis will comp your admission's fee!

(when approached appropriately)
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100% Slovak.

Down to at least 1800, five, six generations and probably longer.

Never been to the Sports hall of game- even though I lived a couple doors down when it was going up.

My Italian barber across the street alluded that it was some kind of mob front... but ‘he don’t know nuthin about nobody’...
 
ecofarm said:
I was referencing earlier events in the thread. I'm not sure what to do with your response. Either you're not playing along or I'm bad at ad lib.
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I didn't read the whole thread so I am apparently lost.
 
I think this discussion is really missing the point. I think the only thing that really matters, is whether or not Pizza Hut is going to be able to field entertaining commercials. I'll be keeping with my Favorite locals myself, so it's not like I'm in danger of eating any of the stuff. And when it comes to TV, entertainment is key.
 
Ikari said:
Urban living for me, in general, is not desirable. But I do miss Chicago...not the weather or its government, but the city. It's nice. I lived in NJ for some time as well, and often frequented NYC. It's not the same, and I didn't really like NYC that much. There are some really nice things there, I did love their varied museums and such. But I had about an 8 hour limit with it, after 8 hours, I'd rather be in Jersey, lol.

Chicago is a great city and I found the people, at least as far as city folk are concerned, to be far more personable. I like the sights, the people, the culture, the food a lot more there than other places. That being said, in terms of "city" these days, Denver is about as big as I like to go. It's nowhere on the scale of NYC, Chicago, or LA...but I certainly like it that way. Denver is a great place too. But people in this state cannot drive. At all. Ever.
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Thanks for this post.

You make an interesting point here, I believe.

Even though large cities have a great deal of diversity of culture & economics within each city itself, these large cities do have their own particular character. NYC, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Houston, all have different characters. And this general character also applies in part to the city's inhabitants.

Apparently you like Chicago's character, particularly that of it's inhabitants, but not necessarily it's large size.

I will only add that besides the inhabitants general character, there are certain cultural aspects and entities that can only come together when there's enough participants to reach critical mass. So in order to have the cultural and other aspects I personally desire, I feel I have to be attached to a very large urban area. I don't have to live within it's strict physical boundaries per se, but I need easy access.

So I don't see myself living anywhere too far from a Chicago, NYC, Toronto, London, etc. Ideally in a quiet, nice, leafy near-in suburb, just on the edge of the city, within walking distance to quick and direct rail access.
 
Threegoofs said:
100% Slovak.

Down to at least 1800, five, six generations and probably longer.

Never been to the Sports hall of game- even though I lived a couple doors down when it was going up.

My Italian barber across the street alluded that it was some kind of mob front... but ‘he don’t know nuthin about nobody’...
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Well it is the old-school crowd from Taylor Street, and later Elmwood Park, with all that entails (and what it doesn't). Which is why when I brought-up the subject of getting comped, I cautioned "approach appropriately".

It's an old-school Italian place, and they prefer Italian association. Not quite as closed as a private social club or S.A.C., but it is very much by and for Italians.
 
Chomsky said:
Well it is the old-school crowd from Taylor Street, and later Elmwood Park, with all that entails (and what it doesn't). Which is why when I brought-up the subject of getting comped, I cautioned "approach appropriately".

It's an old-school Italian place, and they prefer Italian association. Not quite as closed as a private social club or S.A.C., but it is very much by and for Italians.
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I don’t think they want nobody that nobody sent...
 
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