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Slate article shows how feminism fails women

TypicalRussian said:
sexual identity has been fizzled in the age of feminism
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Yeah, women have realized they don't have to restrict themselves to the oppressive "traditional roles" (wife, mother, and nothing else) of the 18th and 19th centuries if they don't want to. That's really "heartbreaking." :lamo
 
EMNofSeattle said:
The best and happiest relationships are between a masculine man and feminine woman who understand that they are different and structure their relationship accordingly.
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Oh, as in "women should realize they are there to serve the men in their own home and be happy about it?" GAG! That's the backward view of the conservative guy who prefers women of the 17th-19th centuries. No thank you! I'd have been absolutely miserable in a relationship or marriage like that, and thank goodness I could choose not to be.
 
it's always the same type of "men" that get their panties in a wad about women.


don't we all know why?
 
Lisa said:
Are you suggesting that because women don't have to obey the conservative male idea of what a woman is supposed to be that feminism is destructive, or are you suggesting that feminism means that all women will soon be asexual and non-binary?
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Yep. I think that's exactly what religious/conservative guys believe. They're mourning the age when women were almost literally the property of men once they married and blame feminism for it. Tough luck for them.

Personally, I think the passing of that awful time for women is cause for celebration. I wouldn't want to spend one evening on a single date with a religious conservative guy, let alone marry one. It's wonderful that women have choices now, including the choice not to marry or have children.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Yes, the feminist ideal of egalitarianism is destructive.
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Only to men who want to control women, I guess. The feminist ideal of egalitarianism has worked just fine for me and many other women as well.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
It’s a terribly sad thing. Because many feminists don’t realize how big a mistake they made until it’s too late to find a good man and have children.
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And many women including me, feminists or not, have consciously chosen not to marry or have children. Not all women choose to restrict themselves to the "traditional" roles, and that's a very happy thing for us.
 
OceanBlues1 said:
And many women including me, feminists or not, have consciously chosen not to marry or have children. Not all women choose to restrict themselves to the "traditional" roles, and that's a very happy thing for us.
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I don’t know, the fact that you made five sequential replies to my thread, insisting how happy you are Leads me to wonder how happy you really are.
 
CaughtInThe said:
it's always the same type of "men" that get their panties in a wad about women.


don't we all know why?
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If you just want to quibble,

it is because it is soo difficult to find serious women in modern times.

Women alleging they want to be a wife should know that to some husbandmen it means the potential wife has to have no Only love and honor, but most especially Obedience. If Only, we could find serious wifes in modern times.
 
OceanBlues1 said:
Yeah, women have realized they don't have to restrict themselves to the oppressive "traditional roles" (wife, mother, and nothing else) of the 18th and 19th centuries if they don't want to. That's really "heartbreaking." :lamo
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traditional values were not oppressive
 
Lisa said:
How is egalitarianism destructive? What is your problem with equal rights and opportunities for all?
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My guess; the people he considers to be "inferior" shouldn't, according to him, have equal rights or opportunities. You know, people like women.
 
TypicalRussian said:
yup, dont be comfortable and dont be in captivity

anyway I will now talk about the rights role in this(Im indepedent)-they want men to be masculine again but completely miss the point-feminism has taught women to be promiscuous in their 20's and marry later but the right and fox news thinks its just men being bad-

Boys, please don'''t leave my daughter waiting | Fox News
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:lamo Fox News, the least reliable news source ever. Why you think I would take that "news" network seriously is beyond me.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
My girlfriend and I when we started courting we had a frank conversation that this was going to be a pure relationship with boundaries that was to discern whether we would be fit for marriage. I think most ladies would love to hear a man say this up front.
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Actually, this part is true, I think. I made a hard rule for myself, which I always followed: Never date religious/conservatives or prolifers. That rule always worked well for me.
 
Lisa said:
Stop with the lies. Women did not agree to act that way. They did it because they didn't have a voice to say otherwise.
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Exactly. I don't believe women like dating or marrying controlling guys who think they have a "right" to dictate every move that she makes, or demand that a woman ask his "permission" before doing anything or going anywhere. That's what I call an abusive relationship. No thank you!
 
Lisa said:
You either are a hateful closet case or you are a misogynist who cannot tolerate the idea of an educated female who is likely far more intelligent than you are or could ever be.
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Agreed. Luckily for all women, misogynists give themselves away rather quickly. The important thing is to know the signs of a misogynist and avoid dating or marrying the guys who display them.
 
danielpalos said:
If you just want to quibble,

it is because it is soo difficult to find serious women in modern times.

Women alleging they want to be a wife should know that to some husbandmen it means the potential wife has to have no Only love and honor, but most especially Obedience. If Only, we could find serious wifes in modern times.
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Are you actually serious??

How do you define a 'serious women'?
 
EMNofSeattle said:
I don’t know, the fact that you made five sequential replies to my thread, insisting how happy you are Leads me to wonder how happy you really are.
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Tell yourself whatever you want. When a thread is new to me, this is how I post when I'm catching up with the posts. It has nothing to do with the poster.
 
OceanBlues1 said:
Exactly. I don't believe women like dating or marrying controlling guys who think they have a "right" to dictate every move that she makes, or demand that a woman ask his "permission" before doing anything or going anywhere. That's what I call an abusive relationship. No thank you!
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A nice wife asks for permission.
 
goldkam said:
Are you actually serious??

How do you define a 'serious women'?
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Women alleging they want to be a wife should know that to some husbandmen it means the potential wife has to have not Only love and honor, but most especially Obedience. To love, honor, and Obey her husbandman is what the Good wife is best at.
 
danielpalos said:
A nice wife asks for permission.
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No, I think a submissive wife asks for permission. No thank you!

An adult woman should never have to ask for permission of a husband before doing something that has no major impact on the marriage. You know, like going out with girlfriends for dinner or making a minor purchase the couple can easily afford. I think only controlling -- or worse, abusive -- husbands demand she "ask permission" in everything she does.
 
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danielpalos said:
Women alleging they want to be a wife should know that to some husbandmen it means the potential wife has to have not Only love and honor, but most especially Obedience. To love, honor, and Obey her husbandman is what the Good wife is best at.
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GAG. I wouldn't date or marry any guy who wanted Obedience.
 
OceanBlues1 said:
No, I think a submissive wife asks for permission. No thank you!

An adult woman should never have to ask for permission of a husband before doing something that has no major impact on the marriage. You know, like going out with girlfriends for dinner or making a minor purchase the couple can easily afford. I think only controlling -- or worse, abusive -- husbands demand she "ask permission" in everything she does.
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You have a First Amendment; it is not cheating if you have permission. Good wifes do.
 
danielpalos said:
Women alleging they want to be a wife should know that to some husbandmen it means the potential wife has to have not Only love and honor, but most especially Obedience. To love, honor, and Obey her husbandman is what the Good wife is best at.
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That displays absolutely no respect or dignity for woman. Indicative of a very controlling and forceful outlook, through an outdated theological compass.

So does a husbandman also have to love, honor and obey his wife?
 
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