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[W:517] Sexual Hypocrisy

There is some serious band width being chewed up here to discuss...what... that sex sells? That men and women are different or that sex and sexuality are used as a means of entertainment, marketing, etc?

Shocking.

Bruce Springsteen goes on stage in jeans and a t shirt and expresses his image and plays to a crowd. Miley Cyrus wears a flesh colored thong and tape over her nipples and expresses her image and plays to a crowd. Both feel empowered. Which one is?
You said it, brother.
This needs to be said to radical feminism.
And this needs to be said to Hypocrite America.
 
A bunch of web pages you pasted.

Can you not make a simple point?

I'm not going to trawl through a bunch of religious web sites.
I made my points in my own words, and there's not a single "religious web site" among the links. Give it a rest.
 
Sexual Hypocrisy

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Look up the meaning of the word "hypocrisy"

Then look at some of our pop cultural depictions of women

in movies and magazines

in commercial advertisements

on billboards, bus stop shelters, and the sides of buildings

and then tell me we deplore the sexual objectification of women

and then tell me why we must say we deplore the sexual objectification of women

and then tell me what's wrong with the sexual objectification of women

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Pop Culture is Pornography

Pop Culture is Pornography Promoted and Approved by Sexual Hypocrisy

What do you think about that as a thesis?



There is nothing wrong with objectifying women in and of itself. Women have evolved large breasts and posteriors precisely because they are effective at attracting men. The problems arise when we forget that women are people too. They don't exist just for us to admire their bodies. We must respect their feelings as well.
 
I made my points in my own words, and there's not a single "religious web site" among the links. Give it a rest.

No you have made no points - you've copied and pasted links to web sites.

Do you have a point to make?
 
I made my points in my own words, and there's not a single "religious web site" among the links. Give it a rest.

No you have made no points - you've copied and pasted links to web sites.

Do you have a point to make?

In my own words, my points:

Whatever arguments there are against marriage itself must apply to same-sex marriage, one would suppose.
Are there arguments against marriage itself?
Divorce rates being what they are, I would be surprised if there weren't cogent arguments against marriage itself.

As I said earlier, there are no arguments against same-sex marriage that are not arguments against marriage per se, and at the same time, therefore, arguments against opposite-sex marriage.

And yes John Q Public deplores or says he deplores the sexual objectification of women and at the same time sexually objectifies and enjoys sexually objectifying women.

Objectification is an essential component of art and science, and in our treatment of non-human animals, and in every person's relation to his.her physical self.

...Our culture is self-contradictory and hypocritical in this matter of sexual objectification.
When it comes to sex, cognitive dissonance is rampant in America.

Spite is making your posts more and more desperate and foolish.
 
In my own words, my points:

A high divorce rate is not an argument against marriage

OK there are no arguments against SSM that don't apply to marriage in general - which is none

Women are often portrayed in a sexual fashion in Western society - that is a problem why? Providing less of an outlet for male sexuality is a bigger problem as the Catholic church has found. A celibate priesthood is a hypocrisy.

Objectification of the female form is not an "essential component of art and science" - yes it has been done in art but it's not essential and is hardly a component of science.

Where is the hypocrisy - saying one thing and doing another - with regard to sex outside of religion?
 
A high divorce rate is not an argument against marriage...
That's a moot point, Rich, but that's not what I said. What I said was:
Divorce rates being what they are, I would be surprised if there weren't cogent arguments against marriage itself.
Do you see the difference between what I said and what you thought I'd said?
This is an important question. Please reply to it before we proceed. Thank you.
 
That's a moot point, Rich, but that's not what I said. What I said was:

Do you see the difference between what I said and what you thought I'd said?
This is an important question. Please reply to it before we proceed. Thank you.

Actually no

You mentioned a high divorce rate and said you wouldn't be surprised if there weren't arguments against marriage.

I'd say just because many marriages fail today is not a reason to get ride of marriage.


I deny that the divorce rate will ever produce any argument against marriage.


Do you accept the other objections to your points?
 
Actually no

You mentioned a high divorce rate and said you wouldn't be surprised if there weren't arguments against marriage.

I'd say just because many marriages fail today is not a reason to get ride of marriage.


I deny that the divorce rate will ever produce any argument against marriage.


Do you accept the other objections to your points?
That's too bad. A matter of reading comprehension stands in the way of our continuing.
Nice talking with you.
 
That's too bad. A matter of reading comprehension stands in the way of our continuing.
Nice talking with you.

That's because you don't say what you mean.

You make a statement and when someone asks what you mean, you say you didn't mean that at all.

Stick your neck out and state what you mean.

This thread is called Sexual Hypocrisy. What would be an example of this and why would it hypocritical?
 
That's because you don't say what you mean.

You make a statement and when someone asks what you mean, you say you didn't mean that at all.

Stick your neck out and state what you mean.

This thread is called Sexual Hypocrisy. What would be an example of this and why would it hypocritical?
The problem between us, as is now evident from that divorce business, is that you don't understand what I mean. That's why you've claimed that I don't make points -- you miss them.
 
The problem between us, as is now evident from that divorce business, is that you don't understand what I mean. That's why you've claimed that I don't make points -- you miss them.

If you think you make points, I'm sorry to say you don't

Can you not phrase them in manner all can understand? Elvira is like this - a pasted link from a religious site is not an argument.

This thread is called Sexual Hypocrisy. What would be an example of this and why would it hypocritical?
 
...This thread is called Sexual Hypocrisy. What would be an example of this and why would it hypocritical?
A person who enjoyed the sexual objectification of women as a young man, but then as an old man condemns it.
 
...This thread is called Sexual Hypocrisy. What would be an example of this and why would it hypocritical?
A person who appreciates the sexual objectification of women, but who in order to be politically correct denounces it.
 
Angel's Top 20
Hollywood Sex Symbols
on Parade


21st Century Foxes: Guilty Pleasures

#1

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Hawaii's Model of the Year 1999

Jason Momoa

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Glorification or Objectification?

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#20 Clara Bow
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-11.html#post1070126612
#19 Louise Brooks
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-12.html#post1070129726
#18 Jean Harlow
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-16.html#post1070134570
#17 Marlene Dietrich
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-19.html#post1070146716
#16 Dorothy Lamour
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-20.html#post1070150130
#15 Betty Grable
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-21.html#post1070157530
#14 Jane Russell
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-22.html#post1070164436
#13 Jayne Mansfield
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-23.html#post1070169165
#12 Marilyn Monroe
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-24.html#post1070176581
#11 Raquel Welch
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-25.html#post1070188023
#10 Natalie Wood
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-26.html#post1070200362
#9 Pam Grier
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-28.html#post1070205058
#8 Bo Derek
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-30.html#post1070223425
#7 Sharon Stone
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-31.html#post1070240028
#6 Jessica Alba
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-32.html#post1070273040
#5 Halle Berry
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-33.html#post1070315436
#4 Scarlett Johansson
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-34.html#post1070353290
#3 Angelina Jolie
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-35.html#post1070442433
#2 Jennifer Lawrence

https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-36.html#post1070490680
 
...This thread is called Sexual Hypocrisy. What would be an example of this and why would it hypocritical?
American culture, which promotes contradictory values, celebrating and censuring depictions of sexuality, is hypocritical at its core.
 
American culture, which promotes contradictory values, celebrating and censuring depictions of sexuality, is hypocritical at its core.

American culture also promotes sexuality and thrills. It deals with real world issues too.

It's why there's a ratings system for TV and movies.

Not everyone wants to watch the family channel 24/7.
 

Angel, you paste a lot of attractive pictures and links to web pages, but you make little reason argument

Why is American culture hypocritical "to the core" ?

OK it promotes sexuality - why is that "hypocritical" ?
 
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Hypocrisy - Wikiquote

O, what may man within him hide,
Though angel on the outward side!


—William Shakespeare, Measure for Measure (1603), Act III, scene 2, line 285.
 
... what do you see as sexual hypocrisy and why is it hypocritical?
Asked and answered already. Please, for the love of God, read better.

Here, posted in the course of the last ten posts for heaven's sake:

...This thread is called Sexual Hypocrisy. What would be an example of this and why would it hypocritical?

A person who enjoyed the sexual objectification of women as a young man, but then as an old man condemns it.

A person who appreciates the sexual objectification of women, but who in order to be politically correct denounces it.

American culture, which promotes contradictory values, celebrating and censuring depictions of sexuality, is hypocritical at its core.
 
Asked and answered already. Please, for the love of God, read better.

Here, posted in the course of the last ten posts for heaven's sake:

No you haven't answered it:

Yes, saying one thing and doing another is hypercritical. But, people are allowed to change their sexually preferences over time you know as well as their ideas on what is acceptable as they get older.

An advertising company might try to sell a new car with pictures of scantily clad models while a church condemn it. There's no hypocrisy there.

What to your mind is an example of sexual hypocrisy and how is this behavior endemic in the USA?


If say a pastor was preaching fidelity whilst conducting an affair, then yes he is being hypocritical.
 
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