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How can love be wrong? [W:713]

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Oceanborn said:
If self sacrifice is the only measure of love, most people have probably never experienced it. However, sexual orientation is only one aspect of a relationship. And focusing on the sexual act itself is a shallow world view of an extremely complicated topic.
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If sex isn't involved then it's just friendship.

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Lursa said:
That's also complete BS.

I've never had kids, we didnt want kids. But I've certainly been in love a few times. Enough for us to be together for 13 years in one case.



Are you implying that gays are only together to have sex and that's all they do? :doh

Are you implying that straight couples do nothing but have sex all the time and that straight relationships involve nothing else?

There is nothing in a straight relationship/marriage that those in a gay marriage/relationship cannot have.

If you dont know this stuff, then I feel sorry for you. How depressing.
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Homosexuals cannot have children born of their barren union.

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doxygen said:
No thanks.

I don't need to anyway. Christianity absolves Trump's sins daily, so why wouldn't God absolve everyone?
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You can't be forgiven if you refuse forgiveness.

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phattonez said:
Homosexuals cannot have children born of their barren union.

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Love is all that is required
 
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doxygen said:
I grew up in the 60's and 70's. I saw so many "broken homes" that I'd say that was more common than non-"broken homes". The worst were parents who stayed together even though they no longer shared any bond beyond their offspring. IMO that's more damaging to kids than divorce.
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Your opinion is meaningless and without any scientific basis.

Divorce rose exponentially in those miserable decades, concurrently with suicide and depression.

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Lursa said:
Wrong again. There are many gay couples that have now raised children to adulthood...my cousin and his husband have done so as just one example...she's off to college now. They adopted her in 2001 and have been a loving family unit since.
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Sorry, she's not their child. Their union is barren. They simply engaged in social engineering.

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phattonez said:
Sorry, she's not their child. Their union is barren. They simply engaged in social engineering.

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But such beautiful social engineering
 
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phattonez said:
You can't be forgiven if you refuse forgiveness.

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Of course you can be. The god of Christianity is all powerful.

You should try reading a bible some day.
 
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vegas giants said:
Or if you did nothing wrong
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Do you think spurning the natural purpose of sex is nothing wrong? Do you think ignoring what sex was created for is nothing wrong? Do you think that devaluing the only act by which we create new life is nothing wrong?

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phattonez said:
Do you think spurning the natural purpose of sex is nothing wrong? Do you think ignoring what sex was created for is nothing wrong? Do you think that devaluing the only act by which we create new life is nothing wrong?

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In a word yes.

Nothing wrong with any of that
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
Of course you can be. The god of Christianity is all powerful.

You should try reading a bible some day.
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After the Jews questioned how Jesus could forgive sins, He said that sins against the Holy Spirit would not be forgiven. What do you think that means?

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doxygen said:
What is cunnilingus? Is that sodomy???

When my wife and I die, is God going to scold us because we enjoyed oral sex???:roll::doh
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Yes.

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TheParser said:
While surfing the TV channels yesterday, I came across Ellen, whose show I never watch.

She was showing a video of her and Portia vacationing on an island in the Pacific Ocean.

I forgot her political views (with which I disagree) when her gentle humor and apparent genuine love for Portia touched my heart.


*****

I find it so sad there are some people who would verbally or legally or even physically attack two women (or two men) who are fortunate enough to find their true love.
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I go to bed every night praying that god sends us more lesbians. More lesbians, Please.
 
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phattonez said:
That pleasurable feeling you have in your genitals isn't love. That's eros. Lust. It is in no way comparable to the love between a man and woman who through self-sacrifice give rise to children and raise them for many years. Calling the selfish mutual pleasure of homosexual sex (or non-procreative heterosexual sex) love is about the greatest insult you can give to one of humanity's highest aims.
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wut??
 
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phattonez said:
That pleasurable feeling you have in your genitals isn't love. That's eros. Lust. It is in no way comparable to the love between a man and woman who through self-sacrifice give rise to children and raise them for many years. Calling the selfish mutual pleasure of homosexual sex (or non-procreative heterosexual sex) love is about the greatest insult you can give to one of humanity's highest aims.
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I agree and disagree. I love a man, no sexuality in anyway, he was a mentor, I loved and admired his thoughtfulness, time, effort, advice, and wisdom he put into everything that concerned me.
 
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phattonez said:
That pleasurable feeling you have in your genitals isn't love. That's eros. Lust. It is in no way comparable to the love between a man and woman who through self-sacrifice give rise to children and raise them for many years. Calling the selfish mutual pleasure of homosexual sex (or non-procreative heterosexual sex) love is about the greatest insult you can give to one of humanity's highest aims.
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ya my gf cant have kids the sex is great but we love 1 another there's nothing stopping same sex couples form feeling the same way some of them raise children together as well so your full of **** and unfair to some people for no reason why would you do that?
 
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Lursa said:
I want children to have loving homes where they are raised by loving parents or a loving parent.

That's all.

And your final comment makes no sense since obviously the 100,000 kids waiting to be adopted no longer have that option.

You statements also have no basis in reality, since kids raised by gay parents are also raised by loving parents and there are no (peer-reviewed) studies showing they have any social or emotional or other disadvantages.
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There are plenty of studies showing that kids do best when raised by their parents. We need to stop idealizing deficient situations.

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blarg said:
ya my gf cant have kids the sex is great but we love 1 another there's nothing stopping same sex couples form feeling the same way some of them raise children together as well so your full of **** and unfair to some people for no reason why would you do that?
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So why won't you marry her?

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lefty louie said:
I agree and disagree. I love a man, no sexuality in anyway, he was a mentor, I loved and admired his thoughtfulness, time, effort, advice, and wisdom he put into everything that concerned me.
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That is filia, and it's a great form of love. I'm in no way diminishing friendship.

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phattonez said:
Who, exactly, are dying out?

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This modernist ideology that you're pushing is deadly. These are the results.
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Wow! That has got to be the biggest correlation/causation fallacy of the year. Not even Trump can beat that one!

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phattonez said:
This libertine attitude has given rise to people who are alienated and chase after fleeting pleasures. There are no higher aspirations and no sense of duty. Has this made the world better? Given our society's addiction to anti depressants and suicide rates, I don't see how you can say yes.

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Given that better is a subjective value, you have no real argument here.

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maquiscat said:
Wow! That has got to be the biggest correlation/causation fallacy of the year. Not even Trump can beat that one!

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What's responsible if not culture?

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