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Coming Out.

Checkerboard Strangler said:
You actually sound like you think gay people have an agenda.
They don't...their agenda consists mostly of doing the exact same things straight people do every single day.
I think you're upset because gay people are just now able to live their lives like anyone else without seeking your approval.
That word you're using, "impose"....I don't think it means what you think it means, and if your gay colleague were to get a glimpse of this nonsense, I assure you that you would be excused from having to attend their coming out party, as a favor to everyone else.

The whole reason "coming out" is even an issue at all is because of people like you, otherwise there wouldn't be any such thing as coming out.
Gay people would just be gay, they'd let people know and whoop-de-doo, so they're gay, so what.
The so called "closet" existed for centuries because for centuries they had to accommodate YOUR AGENDA.

I don't suppose that ever occurs to all the poor put upon straight people who are upset about a so called "gay agenda".
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At least no one needs to worry about homosexuals goofing up marriage because the feminists beat them to it.
 
Bodhisattva said:
You should have stopped at "conclusion" ...because it looks like you lost your mind after that.
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I'm going with "seizure"...or really good crack cocaine.
Aww Hell, like there's really any difference between the two? :lamo
 
SDET said:
At least no one needs to worry about homosexuals goofing up marriage because the feminists beat them to it.
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They have every right to be just as happy OR MISERABLE as any straight couple, and yes...you WILL see many many many gay marriages hit the rocks just LIKE all those straight marriages do, because they can make the same mistakes as straight people.

What is this "feminists" you speak of? AGAIN, the whole reason we even had to HAVE such a word is because once again, for centuries, women had to accommodate people just like you.
Otherwise, there would be no such word because strong independent women would just be who they are and it wouldn't seem unusual.
They're just women, and just like guys, they should be under no obligation to accommodate the agendas or expectations of strangers.
They should be free to just be themselves.

My wife came out of the Navy as an accomplished diesel mechanic. Was she a FEMINIST because she wanted Peterbilt to hire her?
They wouldn't! They said that they did not hire female diesel mechanics...they actually said it right to her face...in the year 1988!
The moron sitting behind the desk didn't see a patriotic sailor who served her country and excelled in her field, he saw a "FEMINAZI"...a "feminist", trying to "impose a feminist agenda".
Oh you poor poor put upon insecure widdle impotent puppies.

Her husband at the time couldn't stand the fact that she wanted to work on diesel engines.
He's the one who goofed up the marriage, by walking out on her.
Guess who scooped up what he threw away?
Moi, that's who...lucky lucky moi.

You go right ahead and oppose all those agendas swirling around your insecure put upon soul.
I assure you that the only people who sympathize are other insecure little puppies who can't housetrain their impotent anger and feel compelled to pee all over everyone else.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
They have every right to be just as happy OR MISERABLE as any straight couple, and yes...you WILL see many many many gay marriages hit the rocks just LIKE all those straight marriages do, because they can make the same mistakes as straight people.

What is this "feminists" you speak of? AGAIN, the whole reason we even had to HAVE such a word is because once again, for centuries, women had to accommodate people just like you.
Otherwise, there would be no such word because strong independent women would just be who they are and it wouldn't seem unusual.
They're just women, and just like guys, they should be under no obligation to accommodate the agendas or expectations of strangers.
They should be free to just be themselves.

My wife came out of the Navy as an accomplished diesel mechanic. Was she a FEMINIST because she wanted Peterbilt to hire her?
They wouldn't! They said that they did not hire female diesel mechanics...they actually said it right to her face...in the year 1988!
The moron sitting behind the desk didn't see a patriotic sailor who served her country and excelled in her field, he saw a "FEMINAZI"...a "feminist", trying to "impose a feminist agenda".
Oh you poor poor put upon insecure widdle impotent puppies.

Her husband at the time couldn't stand the fact that she wanted to work on diesel engines.
He's the one who goofed up the marriage, by walking out on her.
Guess who scooped up what he threw away?
Moi, that's who...lucky lucky moi.

You go right ahead and oppose all those agendas swirling around your insecure put upon soul.
I assure you that the only people who sympathize are other insecure little puppies who can't housetrain their impotent anger and feel compelled to pee all over everyone else.
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Feminists are "triggered", need "safe spaces" and government to protect them from being "offended". Anything but "a strong woman". If you want to know what a relationship with a feminist is like ask Paul Nungesser. Don't forget to "carry that weight".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University_rape_controversy

In April 2013, Emma Sulkowicz, an American fourth-year visual arts major at Columbia University in New York City, filed a complaint with Columbia University requesting expulsion of fellow fourth-year student and German national, Paul Nungesser, alleging he had raped them in their dorm room on August 27, 2012.[1] Nungesser was found 'not responsible' by a university inquiry. In 2017, the university issued a statement acknowledging that Nungesser experienced a "very difficult" time, promised to keep its gender-based misconduct policies fair, and settled Nungesser's lawsuit under undisclosed terms.[2]

In May 2014, Sulkowicz filed a report against Nungesser with the New York Police Department (NYPD), who did not pursue charges.[3][4] The district attorney's office interviewed Sulkowicz and Nungesser, but did not pursue charges, citing lack of reasonable suspicion.[4] Sulkowicz said that Sulkowicz declined to pursue an investigation, and stated that NYPD officers were dismissive and had mistreated them.[5][6][7]

After Columbia declined to take action against Nungesser, Sulkowicz focused their senior thesis on a work of performance art entitled Mattress Performance (Carry That Weight) which involved Sulkowicz carrying a 50-pound dorm mattress wherever Sulkowicz went on campus to represent the painful burden rape victims carry throughout daily life, and in protest of what they described as Columbia University's mishandling of their sexual assault complaint.[8] Nungesser called Sulkowicz's allegations "untrue and unfounded" and described the mattress piece as an act of bullying intended to force him to leave Columbia.[6][9]

In April 2015, Nungesser filed a Title IX gender discrimination lawsuit against Columbia, its board of trustees, its president Lee Bollinger, and Sulkowicz's supervising art professor Jon Kessler, alleging their negligence in preventing his alleged harassment.[4][10]. Nungesser was represented by Title IX campus due process attorney Andrew Miltenberg.[11]

Recorded in the documents of the complaint, Nungesser stated Sulkowicz's allegation of rape was false, citing as evidence Sulkowicz's counterintuitive behavior, such as friendly texts Sulkowicz sent Nungesser days after the alleged attack occurred.[12] The complaint argued Sulkowicz's allegation was made in response to unreciprocated desire for a serious relationship, therefore allowing the performance was harassment and a violation of his student rights. When questioned about the lawsuit, Sulkowicz said that it was "full of lies."[13] Federal District Court Judge Gregory H. Woods dismissed the lawsuit[14] but allowed Nungesser to refile an amended suit,[14] which was settled by Columbia in July 2017.[15]
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SDET said:
Feminists are "triggered", need "safe spaces" and government to protect them from being "offended". Anything but "a strong woman". If you want to know what a relationship with a feminist is like ask Paul Nungesser. Don't forget to "carry that weight".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University_rape_controversy
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Sorry but you're not entitled to your own definitions of words.

A range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social equality of sexes. This includes seeking to establish educational and professional opportunities for women that are equal to those for men.

---Anything else outside the desire for equality is not feminism.
No matter how badly you want YOUR definition of feminism to be "the definition", it isn't.
No matter how badly you DON'T want my wife to be an example of a feminist, she is, and still is, even despite not getting her diesel mechanic job at Peterbilt.
She served on board a tugboat full of MEN, SAILORS. She never needed safe spaces, she never asked for government to protect her from being "offended". Far from it, in fact, because my wife knows all the sailor jokes, nothing shocks or offends her at all.
The moron at Peterbilt was the one who was offended by a woman asking for a job, he was the one who needed a safe space.

Know what she did after leaving Peterbilt's office? She mustered up enough courage to apply at Savin to get trained to be a copier repair tech instead and inside of three months, she was, and she was given a route and she worked at Savin from 1988 to 1995, which is when her MS got so bad that she had to stop working. Then, after her husband walked out on the marriage, she saved the life of her disabled son, who was born with five heart defects.

That's a feminist. What you described is a spoiled brat. But it's not surprising that that's the only definition that suits you.
 
SDET said:
At least no one needs to worry about homosexuals goofing up marriage because the feminists beat them to it.
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What a quaint assertion.

Tell me, how did feminists 'goof up' marriage?

Please be very specific.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
They have every right to be just as happy OR MISERABLE as any straight couple, and yes...you WILL see many many many gay marriages hit the rocks just LIKE all those straight marriages do, because they can make the same mistakes as straight people.

What is this "feminists" you speak of? AGAIN, the whole reason we even had to HAVE such a word is because once again, for centuries, women had to accommodate people just like you.
Otherwise, there would be no such word because strong independent women would just be who they are and it wouldn't seem unusual.
They're just women, and just like guys, they should be under no obligation to accommodate the agendas or expectations of strangers.
They should be free to just be themselves.

My wife came out of the Navy as an accomplished diesel mechanic. Was she a FEMINIST because she wanted Peterbilt to hire her?
They wouldn't! They said that they did not hire female diesel mechanics...they actually said it right to her face...in the year 1988!
The moron sitting behind the desk didn't see a patriotic sailor who served her country and excelled in her field, he saw a "FEMINAZI"...a "feminist", trying to "impose a feminist agenda".
Oh you poor poor put upon insecure widdle impotent puppies.

Her husband at the time couldn't stand the fact that she wanted to work on diesel engines.
He's the one who goofed up the marriage, by walking out on her.
Guess who scooped up what he threw away?
Moi, that's who...lucky lucky moi.

You go right ahead and oppose all those agendas swirling around your insecure put upon soul.
I assure you that the only people who sympathize are other insecure little puppies who can't housetrain their impotent anger and feel compelled to pee all over everyone else.
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CS, take a few deep breaths and remember where you are. The shock and the profound sense of awe will eventually settle down. And hopefully you’ll become desensitized to the mountains of total bull****, which will allow you to lower your expectations for your fellow humankind. Take solace in knowing that you did escaped from Texas.

There’s a lot of folks that I would like to remind - “Karma is a mother****er” - but it would be a waste of finger energy.

Good post. Hang in my friend.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
What a quaint assertion.

Tell me, how did feminists 'goof up' marriage?

Please be very specific.
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Feminists ended the social acceptability of the beating and rape of wives. The horror.
 
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TheGoverness said:
But I want to pass it off to some of y’all: Do any of you have experiences where a good friend of yours came out to you? And if they did, how did you react?
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AGENT J said:
AWESOME!!!!!
GOOD JOB ON YOUR SUPPORT TOO!

As for me the couple have all been really low maintenance as far as my direct interaction. (one was very bad with family) it was a couple friends that we all already knew but it just wasnt really said. And when my daughter came out she was Bi (a little different) it was the biggest nothing burger ever LMAO but she already knew it would be because of the talks about life and the world we had. And because of how much i participated in her lectures, debate classes, young politicians and speeches etc etc

she just basically said oh by the way dad, its confirmed, im definitely Bi. . . to be honest it was so meaningless overall i dont even remember it that well... i think i asked her if she was sure, if she felt its confirmed in her heart and mind and she was like yeeeeeeeeeep. LOL . . . we both laughed and later i asked if its my fault because of all the sports i made her play and she had no mother. . we laughed some more . .
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https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-...ter-came-out-today-told-me-she-bi-sexual.html
to further elaborate and because i couldnt remember well heres the thread i made on my daughter i thought you might like.
as for the family members that didnt like it . .its only ONE family now, they still dont like it and nobody cares.
 
Should a husband that takes a mistress also be celebrated for "coming out" as a polyamorist, "embracing" an alternative sexual orientation?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Ya, but when folks figure it out they should tell their good pals, because when they dont it makes those pals wonder just how good of pals they are. This was true for me decades ago, I would expect it to be even more true now....I did not want to hear "Well I was scared a little.." This is me, I find that a little off putting to say the least.
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Perhaps the 'this is me' you see isn't what others see and sometimes it isn't all about you and your feelings... thought your zen quest would enlighten you... :peace
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I am here, talk to me buddy......This is about Judy, who I spent a fair amount of time with (We lived together at Hedrick House, a Co-Op at Michigan State, I chose to live there because my did had and I was trying to please him) and who I spent 4 months trying to hook and she knew damn well I was trying and then she gives me "Oh, I'm a Dyke (this was 1985), I was afraid to tell you..." **** you was pretty much my response. If you dont like it, tough.
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I often wonder how many women are suddenly 'dyke' when they get hit on by a guy they don't care to see naked hits on them... :peace
 
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