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Do you support the rioting?

Do you support the rioting?

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 8.8%

  • No

    Votes: 121 81.8%

  • I don't know

    Votes: 4 2.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 10 6.8%
  • Total voters
    148
Abbazorkzog said:
I don't support property damage but I'm not losing any sleep over a burning police department or people finally losing it over institutional racism and neo-imperialist authoritarianism.
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And somehow you equate the quick charging and arrest of the perpetrator as "institutional racism and neo-imperialist authoritarianism"?
 
Abbazorkzog said:
I don't support property damage but I'm not losing any sleep over a burning police department or people finally losing it over institutional racism and neo-imperialist authoritarianism.
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You should put that in your signature line.

Obviously the Democratic police department and Democratic city government don't care about burn out of the poor black people in their cities too. That's why they just let everything in the black part of town be burned and destroyed - while putting up a police line to ONLY keep them going into white parts of their city. Of course Democratic local officials want their black part of town destroyed and burned to get rid of as many poor blacks as possible.

Ordinary tear gas could have stopped this from the very start or could at any time. Tear gas, not pepper spray.

Hey, you're white. What about burning down your house and beating up you and your family members because of institutional white privilege you benefit from? I gather you think that would be just too - at least not lose any sleep over it if that happened, right? Do people who may live in or come to your home know this?
 
dex4974 said:
Private voting encourages people to be more honest.
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it also makes your poll exploitable because of how vBullten polls work. With a public poll, an account can only vote once, but with an anonymous poll, you can keep clearing your cookies and vote as many times as you like.
 
dex4974 said:
I'm not looking for a complicated mitigation of the actions of rioters. Do you support the rioting?

EDIT: I am not asking if you support protesting. That is not the same as rioting.
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No_Once these people start rioting,looting and burning down property that isn't theirs they are no longer protesters.They are criminals and thus that is what they should be called. Calling them protesters is akin to calling child pornographer a "journalists" because he publishes images and video or an ax murderer a "2nd amendment supporter" because he is wielding a weapon.
 
Vadinho said:
If you are attempting to dismiss cops killing others with no reason other then their own fear or racism, then we have nothing to discuss. I block people like you for a reason. I have no desire to engage with you at all. None. Zip.
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Absolutely not. Just trying to get you to think about how exaggerating and making sweeping statements are not necessary or needed. Add jumping to conclusions to the list of bad habits.
 
Lemme know how that boot polish tastes you racist mother****s
 
jaypatriot said:
Your theme in your message is consistent and provable:
Cities with large minority populations prone to riot are led by Democratic politicians who do not know how to quell riots.
Nor do they know how to avoid riots before they begin.
If they did, there wouldn't be TV shows like "The Wire", "Law and Order", "Chicago, PD", "Treme", "Southland", and others to pictorialize life in the big city with minority crime stories. The political leaders would know what they should be doing to prevent the disproportionate number of crimes committed by people of color.
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The Wire is an awesome TV show. :cool:
 
TurtleDude said:
you need to learn to make the polls non-anonymous. I'd love to know who actually supports lawless violence and wanton destruction of innocent folks' property
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Yeah, because we know some people lied like a rug when they voted no...lol
 
dex4974 said:
I'm not looking for a complicated mitigation of the actions of rioters. Do you support the rioting?

EDIT: I am not asking if you support protesting. That is not the same as rioting.
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I think we're sadly and quickly getting to the point where violence as a requisite for badly needed change will become both necessary and inevitable; I don't know if we're quite there just yet, but I can recognize its value as a desperate last resort. The ultimate fact is that, like it or not, violence has been and will continue to be an effective catalyst for change, for better or worse. When I survey the current sorry state of American politics, its continued descent into plutocracy and incestuous, entrenched power, establishment wagon circling and the effective hedging out of anyone, on both sides of the political aisle, who would arrest or reverse this course by peaceable means and official channels, I can't help but imagine that things will soon come to a breaking point if they haven't yet already. As JFK once famously stated: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." Those words couldn't be more applicable and resonant than they are today.

Above all, it's incredible to me, mind blowing even, that in one of the States' greatest moments of crisis in all of its history, we are also simultaneously left with some of its very worst candidates: two early stage dementia patients who lack any kind of intelligence or vision, are present and/or past racists, and are in all probability, serial molesters.
 
dave8383 said:
Just to be clear. You aren't asking if we support the protests or not, you are asking if we support the violence that is mixed in with the protests?
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Everyone supports the protests concerning George Floyd.
 
bomberfox said:
Eh not really but this kinda was bound to happen sooner or later, when authorities continue to get away with ****, the people lose faith in the institutions... none of these cops even attempted to stop armed white wingers from storming government buildings but get a peaceful BLM march going, they bust out the pepper pellets and tear gas. I laugh at all the idiots that say the left are fully in charge.
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This has zero to do with fighting for natural or human rights. This is about anarchists/communists trying to undermine our way of life. They ought to be shot. They are well funded and trained, which has been pointed out by some LE experts in the news. They need to found, rooted out and brought to justice. Hopefully death penalty either by judgment or by their determination not to be taken.
 
Wayne Jr said:
it also makes your poll exploitable because of how vBullten polls work. With a public poll, an account can only vote once, but with an anonymous poll, you can keep clearing your cookies and vote as many times as you like.
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I cleared my cookies but was unable to vote twice.
 
American said:
This has zero to do with fighting for natural or human rights. This is about anarchists/communists trying to undermine our way of life. They ought to be shot. They are well funded and trained, which has been pointed out by some LE experts in the news. They need to found, rooted out and brought to justice. Hopefully death penalty either by judgment or by their determination not to be taken.
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Yes, white extremists are are causing all the trouble. But, they are not Lefties; they are the Right Wing fascists
 
mrdeltoid said:
Make the tee shirts and campaign signs. This will be the mantra for the dems right from now until the election. A virus from China, and a murder in a democrat run city. Trumps fault?? Don't make me laugh. Ferguson riots, Freddy Grey riots, I guess were Obama's fault. Trump calls rioter thugs and he's a racist. Obama calls rioter criminals and thugs and it's all good.

Exploiting 100,000 dead virus victims and the murder of a handcuffed man, That "is what this is really about".
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TRump has now torched this country.

100,000 dead, 20% unemployment, hate hate hate everyday for 4 years.

you own it
 
gulfman said:
What a dumbass remark.Trump has nothing to do with this.It's because of the liberal vermin and their filthy rhetoric and life styles.
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He didn't have anything to do with it, but we knew he'd make a bad situation worse. He did not disappoint.
 
dex4974 said:
I'm not looking for a complicated mitigation of the actions of rioters. Do you support the rioting? EDIT: I am not asking if you support protesting. That is not the same as rioting.
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I pass on doing your "poll" because you seek simple answers to your simple questions,
despite the immense complications surrounding THE CAUSE of unrest that is taking shape around our nation.

IMHO a protest that began in Minneapolis has exploded into fiery rage in city after city because too many Americans treat our history
and continuing embrace of racism in the most simplistic ways. Despite the presence of blacks in our most popular sports and entertainments, and recently in most TV commercials,
we remain mostly a very segregated nation. Too many white Americans don't know any black friends or family relatives. Therefore, most white people in our society don't
actually understand the humiliation, anger, and resentment that our black citizens feel when they are forced to witness video of police killing yet another unarmed black person.

We don't have to approve of these riots, but our lack of empathy regarding what caused them leads many to have a knee-jerk response against the rioters,
the burning of buildings and vehicles, and the naked rage that fires these riots. Many Americans will choose to loath everyone involved in the current protests.
But as we have seen in the past, the rage felt by people who have suffered indignant unlawful repression burns hotly whether you support them or not.
Just look at Hong Kong over the past 6 months.
 
dex4974 said:
Are there other more useful ways to use that energy?
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Let's examine your thoughtful question...

We have many laws against police violence, racial prejudice and hate crimes. Yet deaths of unarmed black persons persist at the hands of police officers and white citizen vigilantes.

Many organizations help educate communities, schools and organizations that racism is unethical, unfair and unlawful. Yet racial attitudes persist.

Many efforts attempt to raise social awareness about the harmful impact of racial hatred. Yet someone on this very forum labeled Black Lives Matter a "radical organization" last week.

Black citizens can run for elected office in order to influence our society. Yet when we elected our first black president, that office holder was attacked about his race for 8 years.

Truth is, a person born black learns early in life that the greater society places an extra burden on them that anyone who can pass as white does not have to shoulder.
Women often point to their need to out perform men in order to gain acceptance. The black person has to work doubly hard.
 
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Instead of tearing down the place where you live, register to vote, organize, get Trump out of office. That's a start.
 
MTAtech said:
I understand the anger and believe it is justified. I however believe the violence and destruction are misfocused. Burning down buildings in your neighborhoods being built for low income housing is counterproductive.
I also suspect that some of the destruction is false flag, being carried out by white suprematists. It was interesting that CNN HQ was vandalized yesterday. Trump hates CNN, not liberals. Today, Barr blamed ‘radical leftists.’
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When a segment of our society feels deeply under attack and abused the resulting protests provide the perfect excuse for the chaos supported by various anarchist groups.
Some of the violent actions -- such as a woman firebombing an occupied police cruiser -- could easily be seen as the political attacks by individuals who traveled into the city
in order to cause violence. To me, it is unimportant if the violent perpetrators hold right or left political ideology. They are a threat to the broader society.
 
I supported the guy peacefully taking a knee. Those who now whine about the rioting should ask themselves why they bitched so much about the knee.
 
noonereal said:
That is what this is really about.

TRump has now torched this country.

100,000 dead, 20% unemployment, hate hate hate everyday for 4 years.

Indeed, WTF, this had to happen.
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Trump doesn't torch anything. Himself. He learned decades ago to have bag men, fixers or hired guns do his bidding.
But his worldview of you're either wearing a MAGA hat, or you are the enemy, as well as his attacks on minorities have helped reduce restraints on
people who have increasingly attacked Americans who are of Muslims, Jews, and Chinese extraction.
 
calamity said:
This is exactly the America I expected to see under Trump. So, I am not at all surprised. It isn't going to get any better, either.
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Wrong!
Things will get much better in America when Biden is elected in 5 months. :peace
 
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