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If Trump fires Mueller - Impeachment?

Would you support impeachment of Trump is Special Counsel Mueller is fired?

  • YES - I support impeachment if Trump gets rid of Mueller

    Votes: 34 54.0%

  • NO - I do not support impeachment

    Votes: 29 46.0%
  • Total voters
    63
Chomsky said:
Agreed.

Maybe you and I saw it coming, but Trump's voters believe they were getting non-donor-class. And in a way, they did - at least in terms of financing the campaign.

And Bernie has shown there's the same disdain for the donor-class on the Dem side.

I really do feel there is a large anti-donor-class swatch of the electorate. Whether anyone besides Trump can pull it off, remains to be seen. I thought Bernie had a shot, but no. Then again, he didn't run as an Indie either.
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The RNC raised $10.8M in May to make $61.9M for the year. They spent $10.5M in May to have $41.8M on hand for such items as special elections.

The DNC hasn't released May yet. They only raised $4.7M in April, spent $6.4M in April and finished with $8.8M.

It should be obvious which party depends on CU and which depends on grassroots, as with Ossoff. The DNC is basically broke as to putting out nationwide ads as the GOP does .
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
What if trump try's to get his supporters to break away from the Republican Party?
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GOPs are far more dedicated to their party and actually showing up to vote than DEMs are. The data is conclusive that GOP senators and house members had a reverse coattail effect on helping trump flip six new states and hold onto several red states .
 
NIMBY said:
GOPs are far more dedicated to their party and actually showing up to vote than DEMs are. The data is conclusive that GOP senators and house members had a reverse coattail effect on helping trump flip six new states and hold onto several red states .
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But are republican voters republican voters or trump voters?

Or will the breitbart wing of the party try to consume the establishment wing?
 
Moderate Right said:
And that has what to do with this thread or my post you quoted? Do you remember all of the polls showed Hillary winning? Don't remember one poll that said Trump would win. All I said was haymarket continues to show his biased partisanship.
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You spoke of polls being biased. I spoke of current polls by STATE that are not biased. These polls tell us where the EC is, not like worthless nationwide polls.

I'm following GOP firms that got the election correct, such as by Cahaly with Trafalgar Group, and others.

The VA primary for GOP governor is a prime example of the GOP mainstream under polling trump voters just as nationwide polls did last year .
 
haymarket said:
Word this Friday afternoon is that many observers in DC will not be surprised if Trump orchestrates the firing of Robert Muller to thwart the investigation which apparently is broadening and will look into Trump business concerns as well as obstruction of justice. A tweet this morning appeared to be setting the stage for this development which would be akin to the infamous Saturday Night Massacre of Watergate era fame.

A simple question: if that happens, will you then support impeachment of Trump by the House of Representatives?

Two clear choices --yes or no.
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If you're a Trump supporter the clear cut answer is not. If you're a Trump hater, the clear cut answer is yes. For those in-between that neither love or hate the man, the answer isn't so clear cut. For me, it probably depends on the reason or should I say the perceived reason as I don't trust Trump, the Democrats or the media to inform me of the accurate facts. Too many slants, biases, and down right lies coming from all of them.

All I have to say is if Trump were to fire Mueller, he better have a darn good reason. I haven't seen any reason yet for him to fire Mueller. If that was the case, no reason that I could find or figure out. Sure, impeachment is a possible action. the vindictiveness since the election, coming from both sides has been unreal. Being an unpopular president isn't an impeachable offense. Hating a president isn't an impeachable offense either.

Loving the guy isn't going to stop impeachment if impeachment is warranted. Give me a solid reason, a provable fact that Trump committed Treason, bribery or some other high crime or misdemeanor. Then I will fully support impeachment, but not before then. Just because I think the guy sucks as a president isn't an impeachable offense. At least according to the Constitution.
 
Mycroft said:
LOL!!

What do you have against his tweets?
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Are you not listening to the adults in the GOP about Trump tweets harming him?

Trump listening to Gingrich with his past history isn't exactly doing him any favors.

If DEMs didn't care, they wouldn't give this advice. Trump's tweets are endangering this Nation .
 
RetiredUSN said:
I don't give a rat's ass about what they say. It's agenda driven and you know it.
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Always amused by military people giving unqualified support to a draft dodger while being perfectly willing to trash a man who was a company commander in Vietnam, earned numerous awards for gallantry and actually earned a Purple Heart as opposed to being handed one on a stage, and who has years of devoted public service to both Republican and Democratic administrations.

I guess there is more to this cult thing than I originally thought. By the way, I'm ex-military who fought in the same war that Mueller did - you know, the one Trump avoided.
 
Even if he fires him, there is still the issue of innocent until proven otherwise, that goes for everybody (even the Orange Oaf) but especially when crippling the country by having an impeachment procedure. What should happen is a more vigorous senate and congressional investigation with maybe another special prosecutor of the senate's choice.
 
Peter King said:
Even if he fires him, there is still the issue of innocent until proven otherwise, that goes for everybody (even the Orange Oaf) but especially when crippling the country by having an impeachment procedure. What should happen is a more vigorous senate and congressional investigation with maybe another special prosecutor of the senate's choice.
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Who should be mueller.
 
Mycroft said:
If you think there's a problem with Trump's tweets, then tell me about it. And maybe you can provide a link to whatever you think Trump said to "13 white male Senators". I haven't seen it. That's not to say he didn't say "something", I'm just saying I haven't seen it. Since you brought it up (god knows why, though, since this thread is about Mueller), it's on you to inform me.
You know...never mind. You are all over the place throwing spinning innuendo against the wall. If you can't make a statement and support it...I don't want to hear it.
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If Trump goes on a Nixon firing spree, what makes you think House members will stand by him, especially since he just threw them under the bus by calling the House passed trumpcare bill 'mean'?

And now the Senate may be backing off of its 6/30 rush date on its trumpcare bill. Trump hurts the GOP agenda each new day with his tweet storms .
 
Wiggen said:
Always amused by military people giving unqualified support to a draft dodger while being perfectly willing to trash a man who was a company commander in Vietnam, earned numerous awards for gallantry and actually earned a Purple Heart as opposed to being handed one on a stage, and who has years of devoted public service to both Republican and Democratic administrations.

I guess there is more to this cult thing than I originally thought. By the way, I'm ex-military who fought in the same war that Mueller did - you know, the one Trump avoided.
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I don't understand your use of the term "draft dodger."
 
haymarket said:
Word this Friday afternoon is that many observers in DC will not be surprised if Trump orchestrates the firing of Robert Muller to thwart the investigation which apparently is broadening and will look into Trump business concerns as well as obstruction of justice. A tweet this morning appeared to be setting the stage for this development which would be akin to the infamous Saturday Night Massacre of Watergate era fame.

A simple question: if that happens, will you then support impeachment of Trump by the House of Representatives?

Two clear choices --yes or no.
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1. The story about Trump considering firing Mueller is fake.

2. No, the only thing bad about firing Mueller is it's bad optics. You don't impeach people for bad optics.
 
Peter King said:
Even if he fires him, there is still the issue of innocent until proven otherwise, that goes for everybody (even the Orange Oaf) but especially when crippling the country by having an impeachment procedure. What should happen is a more vigorous senate and congressional investigation with maybe another special prosecutor of the senate's choice.
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Those congressional committees have already rejected your proposal, stating that Mueller should finish his investigation.

If/when Trump goes on a Nixon firing spree, he will shut down the investigation and spark a constitutional crisis .
 
NIMBY said:
Are you not listening to the adults in the GOP about Trump tweets harming him?

Trump listening to Gingrich with his past history isn't exactly doing him any favors.

If DEMs didn't care, they wouldn't give this advice. Trump's tweets are endangering this Nation .
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Tell me about what the "adults in the GOP" (is that another way of saying, GOP Elites?) are saying about Trump's tweets.

What makes you think Trump is listening to Gingrich? Did he say he was?

Oh...you think Trump should listen to the "Dems's" advice? About anything? LOL!!
 
Mycroft said:
Tell me about what the "adults in the GOP" (is that another way of saying, GOP Elites?) are saying about Trump's tweets.

What makes you think Trump is listening to Gingrich? Did he say he was?

Oh...you think Trump should listen to the "Dems's" advice? About anything? LOL!!
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wtf, of course he should. They represent American citizens. Surely you don't believe that half the country should have no role in governance.
 
NIMBY said:
If Trump goes on a Nixon firing spree,
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You shouldn't live your life based on "if". I've seen no indication Trump will fire anybody, much less go on a "spree".

what makes you think House members will stand by him, especially since he just threw them under the bus by calling the House passed trumpcare bill 'mean'?

And now the Senate may be backing off of its 6/30 rush date on its trumpcare bill. Trump hurts the GOP agenda each new day with his tweet storms .
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I have better things to do than consider how a mythical action by Trump will affect the House or Senate. That's kind of like wondering what the House or Senate will do if Trump is investigated for collusion with the Russians. He's not, so I won't waste my time.
 
GhostlyJoe said:
wtf, of course he should. They represent American citizens. Surely you don't believe that half the country should have no role in governance.
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I'd rather Trump listen to the American Citizens...all of them. I don't think Democrats represent anybody but themselves.
 
Perotista said:
Give me a solid reason, a provable fact that Trump committed Treason, bribery or some other high crime or misdemeanor. Then I will fully support impeachment, but not before then. Just because I think the guy sucks as a president isn't an impeachable offense. At least according to the Constitution.
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Too many people don't seem to understand that there needs to be an impeachable offense.
 
nota bene said:
Too many people don't seem to understand that there needs to be an impeachable offense.
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LOL, exactly. Just because the guy is unpopular, obnoxious as Hades, doesn't at times to seem to know what is going on and is totally politically out of his league.. Those aren't impeachable offenses. It seems to me the Democrats have put all their eggs in the Russian election collusion thing. So far, there is nothing there. At least that I have seen.

They may well be something there. That I don't know. But until there is provable facts that there is something there, I think all this impeachment talk is sort of asinine. If not asinine, way too early. I'll wait and see what comes of all of this. It may be nothing more than political propaganda. Collusion with the Russians and Obama's birther issue might be just the same type of political propaganda.

We know the birther thing was, time will tell if the Russian thing is of the same origin.
 
Too many Republican posters don't seem to understand that the Congressional investigations aren't over, let alone those of the Special Counsel .
 
NIMBY said:
Too many Republican posters don't seem to understand that the Congressional investigations aren't over, let alone those of the Special Counsel .
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That's because they want them to be over because it threatens the entire republican agenda
 
Perotista said:
LOL, exactly. Just because the guy is unpopular, obnoxious as Hades, doesn't at times to seem to know what is going on and is totally politically out of his league.. Those aren't impeachable offenses. It seems to me the Democrats have put all their eggs in the Russian election collusion thing. So far, there is nothing there. At least that I have seen.

They may well be something there. That I don't know. But until there is provable facts that there is something there, I think all this impeachment talk is sort of asinine. If not asinine, way too early. I'll wait and see what comes of all of this. It may be nothing more than political propaganda. Collusion with the Russians and Obama's birther issue might be just the same type of political propaganda.

We know the birther thing was, time will tell if the Russian thing is of the same origin.
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There are a lot of people...the Mainstream Media, their talking potato heads, #NeverTrump types...who KNOW Trump can't be impeached. But their aim isn't to impeach Trump. They just want to keep Trump occupied with the nonsense they keep coming up with so it's harder for him to do what he campaigned on. Their useful idiots, on the other hand, believe all the blather.

There are some here who know Trump can't be impeached, yet try to keep the blather going, and there are a LOT here who are useful idiots.
 
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