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Huge Beirut explosion shatters windows across Lebanese capital

If this was a terrorist act, usually the terrorists are more than eager to claim responsibility. That’s the whole point of what they do. Even Israel, setting fires in Iran, will let it slip that it may have been “behind some of them.”
 
Rostocker said:
Many people dont know that, but fertilizer is an incredible powerful explosive. Some of the most powerful, non nuclear explsoions were caused by fertilizer.

That stuff doesnt ignite easily, but once it is going it goes boom...

You can see there is a fire burning already and thats a huge fire and then that massive explosion is triggered. Looks exactly how fertilizer usually blows up. The initial fire heated it up to its explosidng point.

I saw the ruins now and its definitly a fertilizer storage

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Oh, I'm aware. Timothy Mckviegh brought that point home to us.
 
Drawdown said:
I think phosphorous reacts pretty harshly with all sorts of water. When I was a wee one we had a local blast some nearby equated with a nuclear explosion when a rail car filled with one chemical or the other at the fertilizer plant got water in it from a rain storm. I heard the explosion but we lived a fair distance away and the plant sits down in a low area with ridges around it so it just sounded like thunder to me.
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Yep. That's another possibility. A chemical that reacts with water.
 
Need not have been (if indeed a fertilizer warehouse explosion) phosphorous.

Ammonium Nitrate will do if the initial fire set of greater amounts.

McVeigh used it in Oklahoma in combination nitromethane
 
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Latest is that the government was storing explosive materials there.
 
ammonium nitrate confiscated from a ship 4 months ago per local officials.
 
Drawdown said:
ammonium nitrate confiscated from a ship 4 months ago per local officials.
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I wonder who they confiscated it from and if they knew the deadliness of it or it was unrevealed to them? Hell it could have been a trojan horse they were MEANT to confiscate.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
I wonder who they confiscated it from and if they knew the deadliness of it or it was unrevealed to them? Hell it could have been a trojan horse they were MEANT to confiscate.
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IDK. Sounds like they had it in a warehouse that caught fire and when they were putting out the other fire, the water ignited the fertilizer.
 
Drawdown said:
IDK. Sounds like they had it in a warehouse that caught fire and when they were putting out the other fire, the water ignited the fertilizer.
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Ammonium Nitrate, if that's what it was primarily, does not ignite from water being added.
 
It was a chemical warehouse that exploded accidentally near Beirut's port. Ammonium nitrate, used in chemical fertilizer production, had been left unsecured for six years in a warehouse, according to a Lebanese minister. Combustible chemicals were stored in a warehouse and ammonium nitrate had been among the materials stored. The Oklahoma City bombing involved nine barrels of ammonium nitrate, which is why it looks eerily similar to a terrorist attack.
 
i saw that people heard it on cyprus
 
Mycroft said:
I have more humanity than Hezbollah or Iran.
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hezbollah is just a bunch of guys defending thier homeland from Israel, sometimes there bad, others there not-its not really a bad or good thing
 
TypicalRussian said:
hezbollah is just a bunch of guys defending thier homeland from Israel, sometimes there bad, others there not-its not really a bad or good thing
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They are a terrorist organization who is supplied and funded by Iran.
 
Mycroft said:
They are a terrorist organization who is supplied and funded by Iran.
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buzz word

terrorist could mean anything today-antifa,hezbollah,syrian regime,FSA,etc

FACT:Israel invaded Lerbanon and as a response, Hezbollah formed, it was for defense

what are the terrorrist actions of hezbollah?
 
Lets wait until they are done investigation.
 
Looks like it was at least 2700 TONS of ammonium nitrate, abandoned there by a Russian businessman who declared bankruptcy while his ship was in port and the authorities stored it, poorly, turning a blind eye to what could happen. That's essentially 5,500,000 lbs of what amounts to dynamite.

Beirut explosion: How chemicals abandoned by a Russian businessman triggered a devastating blast felt in Cyprus

I don't know if we'll ever know the amount of casualties, there are no hundreds of thousands made homeless and one of the great cities of the Middle East lies in ruins.
 
Drawdown said:
ammonium nitrate confiscated from a ship 4 months ago per local officials.
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From claiming that it was ignited by water :roll: to the above bovine manure, you show yet again that your main concern is showing yourself to be posting something, no matter how lacking in substance.

Actual research be damned (so the hell with trying to wait for some facts).
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Looks like it was at least 2700 TONS of ammonium nitrate, abandoned there by a Russian businessman who declared bankruptcy while his ship was in port and the authorities stored it, poorly, turning a blind eye to what could happen. That's essentially 5,500,000 lbs of what amounts to dynamite.

Beirut explosion: How chemicals abandoned by a Russian businessman triggered a devastating blast felt in Cyprus

I don't know if we'll ever know the amount of casualties, there are no hundreds of thousands made homeless and one of the great cities of the Middle East lies in ruins.
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It really couldn't have hit a city and country with conditions in bigger shambles than they already were/are.

Being practically broke now, Lebanon has been forced to cut back on its health system for years and is already struggling with the pandemic (hospitals still left could hardly cope already).

I remember it from many years ago when I often visited (way before the years' long civil war). Absolutely great place then and a crying shame what it was turned into over the years.

Now this.

Heart-breaking.
 
Chagos said:
It really couldn't have hit a city and country with conditions in bigger shambles than they already were/are.

Being practically broke now, Lebanon has been forced to cut back on its health system for years and is already struggling with the pandemic (hospitals still left could hardly cope already).

I remember it from many years ago when I often visited (way before the years' long civil war). Absolutely great place then and a crying shame what it was turned into over the years.

Now this.

Heart-breaking.
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Yep. Their need for blood will be overwhelming.
 
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