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Ask Amy: My daughter lives with me and owns a gun. Can I kick her out?

Felis Leo said:
Something tells me that if this man does not consider a .40 caliber semiautomatic handgun with hollow point ammunition a "normal" gun, I am given to wonder how much he knows about firearms and what gun he would be comfortable with his daughter possessing in his home. If he does not want guns under his roof because they make him uncomfortable or he just does not like having such a dangerous tool on his premises, that is his right and I can certainly understand it. But he seems to be taking it a step further and is treating his daughter as though she is a murderer-in-waiting, ready to empty her pistol into him while he sleeps. I do not understand where that thought pattern comes from. I think the biggest issue is that the parent-daughter relationship has broken down over this, and he now lives in fear of his daughter, and his daughter now realizes that her father fears her and does not trust her, for all the flowery language he uses when describing her. That is far sadder than the gun issue.
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Agree 100%. This is the same article as the OP only expanded on. Advice Columnist Claims Hollow Point Bullets Explode And Are Illegal – Def-Con News
 
Dick Tornado said:
Basically it is your house. Most state laws permit the owner of a home to establish the rules for which a home can be resided in. If the renter / tenant does not wish to live under those rules they can find a place without the restrictions.

If you have a Great Dane and the homeowner doesn't want pets you do not have the right to ignore them.
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I totally agree that if her father wants to kick her out he has every right to do so. One of the wonrdrful things about living in a free society is that you can be pretty much as ****ty a parent as you want to be as long as nobody is getting hurt.
 
If the rules of this father's household is no guns then his daughter violated his rules he has a right to evict her from his home.
Good grief, she is a 24 year old woman. I do not find it odd that she is a gun owner. What I find odd is she at 24 is still living at daddy's.
 
Lutherf said:
Actually, that picture is of hollow points. Jacketed Hollow Points, to be more specific. Full Metal Jacket refers to "ball" ammunition (basically a lead, round nosed bullet) with a copper "jacket" covering it. The copper jacket, being harder than the lead, means the projectile is less likely to become deformed while loading or being chambered and tends to leave less "crud" in the barrel than an unjacketed round.
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True while being chambered,but also more apt to over penetrate with less of a wound cavity and pass through a wall. I keep two mags loaded with hollow points and frangible staggered.
 
HumblePi said:
Both look pretty nasty compared to a round tip bullet. Both do a lot more damage. This whole story about this guy and his daughter smacks of debate bait to me. I think it's a fake story made up to create dissension between gun owners and anti-gun activists.
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The argument about the baby with the rocket launcher seemed over-the-top to me.
 
JMR said:
I believe home owners have the right to decide whether or not they wish to have firearms in their home. If the letter is true as written, it is doubtful the daughter was unaware of her father's feelings about the issue. He deserved to be consulted before she decided to bring in a weapon. It is not unreasonable for him to ask for control of the gun as long as she is residing in the house.
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Thing is did his daughter tell him or was dear old dad going through her things? Yes it's very unreasonable for her dad to have control of something he knows nothing about. He'd probably put his eye out.
 
Chillfolks said:
She once saw this documentary that followed a guy named James Bond around. He was able to use a hollow point round to get a gas tank to explode and it blew up a building all with one shot. It was on TV so had to be true.
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Whoever did Amy's research sucked at it. 11 states banning hollow points? I did see something about 11 states banning "cop killer bullets" which is something made up.
 
zsu2357 said:
Thing is did his daughter tell him or was dear old dad going through her things? Yes it's very unreasonable for her dad to have control of something he knows nothing about. He'd probably put his eye out.
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Doesn't really matter, every person in the household had a right to know there was a gun, and the father had a right to veto the presence of a gun.
 
Lutherf said:
Ask Amy: My daughter lives with me and owns a gun. Can I kick her out? | Relationships | omaha.com



Dear, Holy ****!!!!

That's not advice. It's catering to every fear the gun grabbers have. It's willful ignorance or, worse, intentional dishonesty.
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So sad. When, in my 40s, I chose to get a firearm after a ladies firearm class and then training, my Republican gun-neutral parents expressed support and some relief.

Of course I was living alone on rural property, but they had no qualms about guns and would not even today object to my owning them if living in their home.
 
jet57 said:
If the daughter owns a gun and the parents don't want it in the house, then it's her or the gun.

easy peasy
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Got that right for once. Father treats daughter like idiot and gives ultimatum,she would gladly move.
 
The parental fears expressed in their 'letter' for advice are based on a great deal of ignorance. Ignorance regarding firearms and ammo. And ignorance regarding training and preparation.

When I got my first 9mm and kept it in my home, it lives even still on a shelf on my nightstand. When my parents came to visit, I let them have my double bed and I took the guest bedroom...and my 9mm. And I explained some clear rules. If for ANY reason there was a disruption in the night OR I told them...they were to stay locked in my bedroom and not come out under any circumstances.

Also, I was not and am not so paranoid that I'd be shooting anyone moving around in my home when I knew my parents were staying over. But the instructions would at least give me the opportunity to investigate intruders. (there are other security measures and dogs that factor into this).

Some basic groundrules and complying with a basic rule that you identify your target pretty much eliminates shooting family members accidentally. All it takes is awareness and training. Perhaps their daughter is prepared to do so...and they havent even given her a chance?
 
JMR said:
Doesn't really matter, every person in the household had a right to know there was a gun, and the father had a right to veto the presence of a gun.
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So if she has a ten year old brother... With the Disarmament Primary's coming up it wouldn't surprise me much then it is a manufactured story. None the less did she tell her dad or was he snooping? Wouldn't it be better if only she knew since she probably knew what his reaction would be. Besides maybe she was thinking about moving out and when dear old dad said it wasn't safe for a girl (why?who knows) to be on her own that was gonna be her ace in the hole.
 
lurchadams said:
Does the daughter have a name for her gun and does she take it out every night, polish it, pet it and talk to it? If not, she's not a good American conservative!
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Their is one of you guys on every thread. Go get a life.
 
zsu2357 said:
Their is one of you guys on every thread. Go get a life.
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I see you're blessed with trump's sense of humor. You must be really fun at parties :roll:
 
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