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Banned Super Bowl Add That Will Change Minds

Dittohead not! said:
I find it extremely difficult to believe that anyone would spend the millions it takes to run that ad on the Super Bowl. It's an ad for a local gun training that could not possibly pay for itself.
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Nope Front Sight is not local gun training. There are people from all over the country that come to Front Sight and people from other countries such as Canada go there too. Thousands of people come there every week.
 
Rucker61 said:
Anecdote <> data. According to the DOJ there are one million home invasions each year.
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That's in interesting bit of data. Let's do a little math based on it.

First, google "what is the average household size in the USA" and find:

The 2010 Census enumerated 308.7 million people in the United States, a 9.7 percent increase from 281.4 million in Census 2000. Of the total population in 2010, 300.8 million lived in 116.7 million households for an average of 2.58 people per household.

Households and Families: 2010 - Census Bureau
https://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-14.pdf
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So, just under 3 people per household, and just under 300 million people, means roughly 100 million households.

One million home invasions per year means the odds of being a victim of a home invasion in a given year are about 100 to 1.

The chances of being a victim over a 20 year period would be one in 5. Those are pretty scary odds, it seems to me.

Now, how many home owners have actually shot a home invader I wonder? Pasting that phrase in the google window does not produce an answer, or, I should say, it produces many different answers.

all of which has nothing to do with banning or not banning an ad for guns during the Super Bowl. That's still a matter of economics.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Nope Front Sight is not local gun training. There are people from all over the country that come to Front Sight and people from other countries such as Canada go there too. Thousands of people come there every week.
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OH. Well, maybe it might have paid to run the ad after all.
So, why would anyone be against training people to use firearms safely and effectively? That makes no sense. Even the anti gun people should be in favor of that.
 
Helix said:
we aren't doing much about it at this point. the ironic part is that the pro gun side is significantly hurt by these nutter-driven mass shootings. one would think that they would support universal healthcare and background checks to slow this kind of thing, but it defies logic. i suppose that we'll keep chugging along status quo until someone does something so horrifying that the gag reflex kicks in, and then gun hobbyists will have to endure preventable suffering.
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Yes we are hurting from the mass shootings and the nut cases who do them, it just takes them to ruin it for us, but we will make a comeback. Once the fervor of the March For Our Lives event dies down we will go back to making progress. One thing about the gun rights movement is that its got staying power, it might slow down sometimes but it keeps going no matter what.
 
That ad couldn't even be played between re-runs of the Cosby show, let alone during the superbowl.

I love how IT proclaims its a banned ad.
 
Helix said:
it's probable. i'm non-aggressive and don't like physical contact that much. this is why i haven't done so already.
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I would recommend Front Sight, the shooting school in the video, although if you sleep walk as you said you do in a previous post than you should not keep a loaded gun.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Here is a banned Super Bowl add that will perhaps change the minds of even the most extreme anti gun zealots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUd3YBrfoR4
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Our family dog would've taken care of this situation. Also, don't people keep their guns in a safe? Do you think you could've been able to open your safe in a panic by the time these guys got to you?

Otherwise, great ad!
 
Dittohead not! said:
Now, how many home owners have actually shot a home invader I wonder?
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Not that many because usually an armed home owner does not have to shoot a home invader. Most of the time the home invader will give up when they see an armed home owner.
 
Dittohead not! said:
So, why would anyone be against training people to use firearms safely and effectively? That makes no sense. Even the anti gun people should be in favor of that.
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But all too often they aren't.
 
lurchadams said:
Our family dog would've taken care of this situation.
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Not when they beat the dog to death with a baseball bat.

lurchadams said:
Also, don't people keep their guns in a safe? Do you think you could've been able to open your safe in a panic by the time these guys got to you?
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Defensive firearms are usually kept close by, in safes that can be opened in a split second.
 
jet57 said:
Yet another silly and illogical pro gun argument.
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Its true, the gun control crowd wants nothing to do with guns, and they don't want anybody else to have anything to do with guns either.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Its true, the gun control crowd wants nothing to do with guns, and they don't want anybody else to have anything to do with guns either.
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Yes live on the extremes. That way you never have to be part of the debate
 
DebateChallenge said:
People who have problems controlling their tempers to the point where they would use a gun in an argument with their spouse, should not get guns.





I will have to check those statistics to see if they're accurate.






Nope, all too often suicide is planned out way ahead, weeks or even months in advance.
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well, get back with me when you check, i guess.
 
DebateChallenge said:
I would recommend Front Sight, the shooting school in the video, although if you sleep walk as you said you do in a previous post than you should not keep a loaded gun.
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i'd keep it locked up, though i've not done anything aggressive while sleepwalking. mostly, i'm trying to eat something weird or finding my way to some meeting at work. my wife tells me things that i say, and it's generally pretty funny.
 
Rucker61 said:
Anecdote <> data. According to the DOJ there are one million home invasions each year.
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DOJ says ~266,560 cases each year a person is a victim of violence in a household break in. That is 0.08 % of the US population, or 8 in 10,000. Home invasions with some one present have a somewhat higher rate, 1 in 3,000. Still not a significant threat.
 
DebateChallenge said:
So you admit, there is a difference between being in fear and being prepared.
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There can be, but not necessarily. I am able to handle what happens without fear, the video promotes fear.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Read many of the posts in this forum. Check out the news. Look at the "March For Our Lives" protest back in March, there you have it, so many people who are afraid of good, honest, decent people being armed.
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So you do not understand what people are protesting or saying. Noted.
 
DebateChallenge said:
No because it takes but a millisecond to switch the safety off and put the gun in firing condition.
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AH, so we went from unusable means disarmed, to now it is how long it takes to make it usable. Do you ever pick an argument and stick with it or do you always flail around with illogical arguments until you think you won?
 
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