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Slavery Reparations

j brown's body said:
Ta-Nehisi Coates made some good points that address some of the concerns mentioned here:



Here’s What Ta-Nehisi Coates Told Congress About Reparations - The New York Times
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It infuriates me that anyone takes that idiot seriously. In his book Between the World and Me he complained that he was afraid growing up in his black neighborhood, and he resented whites for living in safe neighborhoods. Well, guess what? It was not white racists who endangered him in his black neighborhood. It was other blacks.
 
SmartCat said:
It infuriates me that anyone takes that idiot seriously. In his book Between the World and Me he complained that he was afraid growing up in his black neighborhood, and he resented whites for living in safe neighborhoods. Well, guess what? It was not white racists who endangered him in his black neighborhood. It was other blacks.
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Some who testified before congress in this meeting called white people "ignorant" on the issue. As someone well informed on the issue, I can say that the democrats are the ignorant side in terms of history.
 
Virgil Jones said:
Some who testified before congress in this meeting called white people "ignorant" on the issue. As someone well informed on the issue, I can say that the democrats are the ignorant side in terms of history.
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Race is the liberals' weakest issue. It is the issue where liberal reforms have failed. It is the issue where liberal hypocrisy is obvious. Liberals praise school integration. Nevertheless, they move to white school districts or send their children to private schools if the alternative is to send them to public schools with a large number of blacks in the student bodies.

I hope that the Democrats get enough negative feedback on reparations that they drop the matter.

Unfortunately, it has become dangerous to criticize blacks, especially when the criticisms are obviously justified.
 
gulfman said:
After the Civil War they were promised 40acres and a mule.I think section 8 housing and an Obama phone have been more than enough.
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I'm not much for slavery reparations, but I would like to correct you on the Obama phone comment...it came from the Lifeline program created by and implemented by the Reagan administration in 1984 (the difference being old-stlyle telephones as cell phones were publicly available just yet).

So this conservative program was expanded upon by Clinton in 1996. It wasn't until Republican president George W. Bush allowed the first cell providers under the program.

Also, the Lifeline program covers the cost of discounts for providers...it does NOT provide free phones. That is up to the provider who is part of the program to do that our of their own pocket.

In order to be eligible for the Lifeline program, you have to 135% of the Poverty Level and on one of a handful of assistance programs.

Tax payers do not directly pay for the Lifeline program; it's paid out of the USF, via a fee to the providers who may or may not transfer the cost to customers.

There was a massive overhaul in waste and fraud in 2012, but basically, the above remained.

To date, most of the major service providers are engaged with the Lifeline program for a simple reason: it actually makes a profit for them. So, here you have a government program where the industry pays almost all of the costs, with the taxpayers paying a tiny portion indirectly, it works in helping those who need it, and it works for the industry as they profit from it. See what happens when you ask corporations to act in their self interests by using their own profits to invest in a government program that achieves the dual goal of allowing those who need help to get it and to make a profit at the same time?
 
Virgil Jones said:
It entirely explains the problem they wish to address by claiming reparations are due. They claim that the reason black people struggle in modern society is because of slavery, which causes them to have all of their children out of wedlock, or something.
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Uh huh.
 
Virgil Jones said:
There seems to be an element to the discussion that bypasses out of wedlock births, meaning single parent homes. Why is that I wonder?
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Not sure what you refer to. If you mean that slavery is what lead to the disintegration of the black family, it's not true. The black family and black community was quite healthy right up until the 60s. Most black children were in two parent households from reconstruction until the War on Poverty.

If LBJ weren't so intent on "helping" blacks by buying their votes they'd be much better off now. If reparations are due for that then Democrats should be the ones to pay it.
 
LowDown said:
Not sure what you refer to. If you mean that slavery is what lead to the disintegration of the black family, it's not true. The black family and black community was quite healthy right up until the 60s. Most black children were in two parent households from reconstruction until the War on Poverty.

If LBJ weren't so intent on "helping" blacks by buying their votes they'd be much better off now. If reparations are due for that then Democrats should be the ones to pay it.
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Sir, I agree with you 100%
 
LowDown said:
Not sure what you refer to. If you mean that slavery is what lead to the disintegration of the black family, it's not true. The black family and black community was quite healthy right up until the 60s. Most black children were in two parent households from reconstruction until the War on Poverty.

If LBJ weren't so intent on "helping" blacks by buying their votes they'd be much better off now. If reparations are due for that then Democrats should be the ones to pay it.
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lol...you do realize you elected a man with five children by three different women president. Right?
 
calamity said:
lol...you do realize you elected a man with five children by three different women president. Right?
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And he supported all of them. Looks like they function all right. I don't think any of them was ever on welfare or placed in foster homes.
 
Waddy said:
And he supported all of them. Looks like they function all right. I don't think any of them was ever on welfare or placed in foster homes.
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lol...White Privilege. If Trump was poor and black, instead of born rich, he'd be in jail.

You just made the case for reparations. :lamo
 
calamity said:
lol...White Privilege. If Trump was poor and black, instead of born rich, he'd be in jail.

You just made the case for reparations. :lamo
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TDS is really stupid but reparations is even worse. Your racist assumptions about Trump are really silly, BTW
 
TurtleDude said:
TDS is really stupid but reparations is even worse. Your racist assumptions about Trump are really silly, BTW
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The man was handed $200 million dollars by daddy, who also bailed him out of several bad investments on top of that. He also bought his way out of several felonies, not even counting the crap we don't know about.


White privilege.
 
calamity said:
lol...White Privilege. If Trump was poor and black, instead of born rich, he'd be in jail.

You just made the case for reparations. :lamo
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What?.....What?..... Trump is our first black president. Barry wasn't the first; he acts as white as white can be. But five kids, three different women, ***** grabbing, paying off hookers,..... of course Trump is our first black president. :)
 
calamity said:
The man was handed $200 million dollars by daddy, who also bailed him out of several bad investments on top of that. He also bought his way out of several felonies, not even counting the crap we don't know about.


White privilege.
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and what does that have to do with anything other than TDS? It has nothing to do with reparations. and like it or not, an inordinate amount of politicians have come from wealthy families. Your claim that he bought himself out of several felonies is CT stuff
 
yankintx said:
I see very little public support for this measure, yet every few years it crops up.
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Let the Democrat Presidential candidates fixate on this. I would enjoy watching them trip over their shoe laces.
 
LowDown said:
Not sure what you refer to. If you mean that slavery is what lead to the disintegration of the black family, it's not true. The black family and black community was quite healthy right up until the 60s. Most black children were in two parent households from reconstruction until the War on Poverty.

If LBJ weren't so intent on "helping" blacks by buying their votes they'd be much better off now. If reparations are due for that then Democrats should be the ones to pay it.
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The Democrats have already paid some installments. It's called "walking around money". A convenient place to hand it out is at the entrance of polling locations.
 
calamity said:
The man was handed $200 million dollars by daddy, who also bailed him out of several bad investments on top of that. He also bought his way out of several felonies, not even counting the crap we don't know about.


White privilege.
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You seem to be confusing economic privilege with race, the only color privilege shows up as in this country is green not white. It should be obvious even in your own post as "bought his way out of several felonies" has absolutely nothing to do with race.
 
Virgil Jones said:
Now that congress has held the hearings, what do you think?
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1. Congress. viz., grandstanding members of that body, should be attending to the serious business of this country instead of trying to curry favor with certain voting blocs.

2. No group should be receiving reparations for anything.

a. Our governor here in California has just used the word "genocide" to describe the past treatment of Native Americans. I hope that he is not pushing for reparations.


3. EVERY group should move on from the past and start planning in a harmonious manner for the dramatic demographic changes that are coming in the future.
 
SDET said:
Let the Democrat Presidential candidates fixate on this. I would enjoy watching them trip over their shoe laces.
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Its not an election issue, but Trumps lack of integrity will be. And that is one hell of a wall for the GOP to climb.
 
SDET said:
The Democrats have already paid some installments. It's called "walking around money". A convenient place to hand it out is at the entrance of polling locations.
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When it come to Public Assistance, we need to face the "REAL TRUTH":
~ The food stamp program has had work requirements since 1996, and 40 percent of food stamp recipients are white while 25 percent are black.
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Gov Facts:
Blacks @ (13%) of a population of 300,000,000 people in U.S = 39,000,000 / 56.1 percent who live on 80 of their income from social security of 39,000,000 people = *24,960,000 people.

Whites @ (70%) of a population of 300,000,000 people in U.S. = 210,000,000 / 56 percent who live on 80 of their income from social security of 210,000,000 people = *117,600,000 people.

Hispanic @ (15%) of a population of 300,000,000 people in U.S. = 45,000,000 / 53 percent who live on 80 of their income from social security of 45,000,000 people = *23,850,000 people.



Result: *92,640,000* = MORE white people than black people live on 80 of their income from Public Services of various sorts

Result: *93,750,000* = MORE white people than Hispanic people live on 80 of their income from Public Services of various sorts

combined Hispanic and Blacks 48,810,000

Result: *68,790,000,* = MORE white people than black and Hispanic combined together, live on 80 of their income from Public Services of various sorts
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