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Why shouldn't capitalism be better regulated?

The wealthy invented stuff that got us from Stone Age to here. Without them we'd all be dead! They are the next best things to Gods. I'll pray that a want to be wealthy person is working on a cure for the cancer or heart disease that will one day kill you! Liberals will pay for their shameless and pure ignorance.

This is what I referred to below as the fact-free basis for the religion of capitalism. Search history all you like and you will not find any evidence of your massive BS that the wealthy invented all the "stuff" as you so eloquently describe it that improved societies. But go ahead and give us just one example of that claim if you can. It is true that the wealthy got wealthier from the inventions and ingenuity of others most often from the ranks of the working or variations of the middle classes throughout history while the actual inventors were left with little or nothing for their efforts. But I am enjoying what a fool it makes of someone whose blind faith without knowledge takes them to absurdity.
 
a magical capitalism that has no basis in the real world.

dear, ever heard of Cuba/Florida?? China just switched to capitalism and instantly eliminated 40% of all the poverty on earth. Ever heard of East/West Germany?? See why we conclude that liberalism is based in pure ignorance?
 
Astounding indeed. Have you done any research on the number of people whose lives were ruined by the last collapse of "compassionate capitalism" here?*

libsocialism just killed 180 million souls. Does this compare to the recent USA housing crisis???? See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?? Is any other conclusion possible??
 
Mostly all I ever see is their lying,.

if so why is the liberal so afraid to present his best example of this. What does the liberal learn from his fear??
 
dear, ever heard of Cuba/Florida?? China just switched to capitalism and instantly eliminated 40% of all the poverty on earth. Ever heard of East/West Germany?? See why we conclude that liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

Rightwing Blather
 
Redefining the corporate fiduciary obligations: Instead of to stockholders only, take into account the interests of employees,

Econ 101 for you: a capitalist corporation has to have the best jobs ( for employees) and products in the world just to survive. If you doubt it for a second, start a corporation and offer substandard jobs and products. I know you have not been to college but can you predict what would happen?
 
If the Great Recession and Market Crash of 2008 taught us anything it's that rampant, unrestrained capitalism can be as destructive as over-regulation. We're already on track to repeat that lesson if nothing is done to head it off.

Econ 101: there was massive libsocialist regulation of capitalism in place in 2008 that caused the crash. Shall I explain your ABC's to you???
 
Econ 101 for you: a capitalist corporation has to have the best jobs ( for employees) and products in the world just to survive. If you doubt it for a second, start a corporation and offer substandard jobs and products. I know you have not been to college but can you predict what would happen?

Rightwing Blather²
 
Econ 101: there was massive libsocialist regulation of capitalism in place in 2008 that caused the crash. Shall I explain your ABC's to you???

Rightwing Blather³
 
Rightwing Blather³

name calling because the typical liberal lacks the ability for a substantive response. This is a debate forum not a name calling forum. Ever see a conservative or libertarian have to run from a debate? What does that teach you? You can t back up your big ego
 
Econ 101: there was massive libsocialist regulation of capitalism in place in 2008 that caused the crash. Shall I explain your ABC's to you???

yes, after 8 years of tax cuts and deregulation, it was most certainly the "libsocialists'" fault.
 
name calling because the typical liberal lacks the ability for a substantive response. This is a debate forum not a name calling forum. Ever see a conservative or libertarian have to run from a debate? What does that teach you? You can t back up your big ego

Please at least try to make your pitiful attempts to attack me make some minimal level of sense. I described the content of your comments (more politely than they deserved). You were not called any names. If your skin is so thin you have to manufacture crap like that.
 
Please at least try to make your pitiful attempts to attack me make some minimal level of sense. I described the content of your comments (more politely than they deserved). You were not called any names. If your skin is so thin you have to manufacture crap like that.

For 3rd time: Econ 101: there was massive libsocialist regulation of capitalism in place in 2008 that caused the crash. If you disagree say why or admit as a typical liberal you lack the ability to do so.
 
yes, after 8 years of tax cuts and deregulation, it was most certainly the "libsocialists'" fault.

Econ 101: there was massive libsocialist regulation of capitalism in place in 2008 that caused the crash. Shall I explain your ABC's to you???
 
We have FIRE regulations for a reason, yes?
Fire can be a useful tool, because it can warm your home, forge your steel and iron, cook your food, etc.
It can also burn down entire towns if left unchecked.

Capitalism is a lot like FIRE. Left unregulated and unchecked, it can become predatory and very damaging, and it can unearth some pretty awful unintended consequences. And yet when properly harnessed, capitalism can lift entire generations out of poverty, stimulate innovation and launch entirely new industries. Capitalism has demonstrated the capability to serve as a useful and rewarding tool to serve the middle class if it operates under the right kind of regulation.

So this thread is an effort to explore suggestions and ideas on how to properly regulate capitalism to do just that.

Because over-regulation stiffles business. Just look at what Obama did and how undoing that regulation opened up the economy with Mr. Trump.
 
Because over-regulation stiffles business. Just look at what Obama did and how undoing that regulation opened up the economy with Mr. Trump.

Its hardly coincidence that FDR and Obama have the two worst economic records in American History!!
 
regulate HOW
To ensure safety, fairness and to avoid gouging.

By all of us the other capitalists.

i own a business....ie i am a capitalist at heart....government going to tell me how to run my business?
To some extent and do not forget that "government" is noty some alien entity that came for some distant galaxy to impose rules on you but it is your relatives, your neighbor and your friend, or collectively known 'we the people' and we do it through our representatives. Sure lately some of the representatives turned out to be real jerks but that is still our fault for not being more careful in choosing who we elect. Government is a reflection of us, both when it is doing good and bad.
 
Government is a reflection of us, both when it is doing good and bad.

govt is the source of evil in human history; that is why our genius Founders they gave us freedom from big liberal govt, and that was without seeing HItler Stalin and Mao the great 20th Century liberals. Astonishing you never though to read American History.

Do you think that AOC and Sanders arel intentioned libcommies? THey are, and so were HItler Stalin Mao Pol Pot Castro and FDR. Do you understand now??
 
To some extent and do not forget that "government" is noty some alien entity that came for some distant galaxy to impose rules on you

of course it is!! why do you think the Constitution is all about limiting the power of these people? Do you think they were worried about the Girl Scouts taking away your right to free speech! Do you understand? Or do you insist on believing in a Santa Claus govt that will do only nice things when all of the great evils of human history were caused by liberal govt.
 
govt is the source of evil in human history
Spare me your uneducated moronic tripe. You have no clue about anything yet you infect threads with your ignorance and stupidity. Just go away and educate yourself, so that the rest of us can have a discussion without your imbecilic rants interrupting.
 
Spare me your uneducated moronic tripe..

of course if it was moronic you would not be so afraid to present evidence. What did the liberal learn from his fear?
 
details, we need details

regulate HOW

by WHOM

controlled by WHAT

i own a business....ie i am a capitalist at heart....government going to tell me how to run my business? what to pay my vendors? my employees? how much to charge my customers?

if so, then i am no longer a businessman....just another in a long line of government managers....been there, done that...and already have my tee shirt

thanks but no thanks

i dont mind following a few rules as far as safety....and getting licenses....and dealing with the county on zoning bull****

you can keep the rest of the crap

That's not what regulation is about. Regulation is to ensure that your business is providing a safe working environment, where employees can work, without being a burden on the taxpayers. And to give workers a framework of rights so they're not being exploited in the relationship. Nobodys telling you how to run your business or what to pay your vendors, or price your products, but yes, your relationship with your employees needs to be regulated.

Workers have little to no power in the relationship. All power rests with the employer, and abuses abound. The USA still doesn't have mandated vacations for employees, no maternity leave, and no job security for pregnant women. One executive I know was an accountant for a firm in the middle of a merger. As negotiations were proceeding, the accountant received word that his father was dying and had only a few days at most, left. The employer refused to give him time off to go to his father's bedside. As his wife told me, "There's a recession. I've lost my job. If he loses his, we have nothing". There are always more low wage workers than jobs, so employees consistently use market techniques for wages, instead of paying reasonable remuneration. The larger the company, the more disconnected management and labour are, the less likely the employees are to get a good shake.

Every time I watch "Under Cover Boss", the Boss is shocked that so many of these excellent employees are struggling to provide for their families, care for sick relatives, or to get an education to better their lives, and at the end of every show, these hard-working and dedicated employees are rewarded with things to make their lives better, including cash, cars, and scholarships. There are literally millions of hard-working employees barely getting by because wages have been stagnant and losing buying power for years.

American productivity has grown and the workers saw none of the rewards for that. Conservatives said it was because the increases in productivity were due to automation and workers didn't deserve a raise. Without government regultion, how do we protect non-unionized workers from being bullied into accepting crumbs and bad treatment?
 
That's not what regulation is about. Regulation is to ensure that your business is providing a safe working environment, where employees can work, without being a burden on the taxpayers. And to give workers a framework of rights so they're not being exploited in the relationship. Nobodys telling you how to run your business or what to pay your vendors, or price your products, but yes, your relationship with your employees needs to be regulated.

Workers have little to no power in the relationship. All power rests with the employer, and abuses abound. The USA still doesn't have mandated vacations for employees, no maternity leave, and no job security for pregnant women. One executive I know was an accountant for a firm in the middle of a merger. As negotiations were proceeding, the accountant received word that his father was dying and had only a few days at most, left. The employer refused to give him time off to go to his father's bedside. As his wife told me, "There's a recession. I've lost my job. If he loses his, we have nothing". There are always more low wage workers than jobs, so employees consistently use market techniques for wages, instead of paying reasonable remuneration. The larger the company, the more disconnected management and labour are, the less likely the employees are to get a good shake.

Every time I watch "Under Cover Boss", the Boss is shocked that so many of these excellent employees are struggling to provide for their families, care for sick relatives, or to get an education to better their lives, and at the end of every show, these hard-working and dedicated employees are rewarded with things to make their lives better, including cash, cars, and scholarships. There are literally millions of hard-working employees barely getting by because wages have been stagnant and losing buying power for years.

American productivity has grown and the workers saw none of the rewards for that. Conservatives said it was because the increases in productivity were due to automation and workers didn't deserve a raise. Without government regultion, how do we protect non-unionized workers from being bullied into accepting crumbs and bad treatment?

i built a set of skills...marketable skills....which translated for me into a really good salary for a really long time

i dont know what the answer is for "everyone"

what i have told my family...my daughters, my nephews and nieces....is that you have to have skills....skills beyond the norm

one of my daughters is a nanny....not the career path i would have chosen, but she loves her job....but what separates her from so many others, is her degree and her ability to converse in five languages....she is certified to teach, and so she has not had any difficulty finding jobs when one ends

doesnt matter your field, or area....be one of the BEST in it....learn more about it than the next 98% of the people.....that will always keep you employed and at really good wages

i cant control everything....i can only control my little part of the world....same advice i give to my family and my kids
 
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