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dex4974 said:
As if armed militia in the states could actually fight the government if necessary. They'd be obliterated effortlessly.
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Not true. Japan decided not to attack the US on our home ground because they stated there would be a gun behind every blade of grass. They were right. Currently you have 1.3 million active duty military personnel.

Take out 25% for administration. Then you would have to deal with the ones who refuse to fire on American civilians. And then those who have families in the conflict.

Given the fact that this would only be in the case of hostile Government against its citizens I doubt you would have any US military to defend the government. Not enough to even begin to protect those in power.

You think military pilots are going to bomb American cities knowing they are killing their own families and families of other soldiers? No officer is going to order his soldiers against his sworn oath to defend the constitution. An armed conflict against this government would be ousting those who are violating the constitution.

Not to mention, In 2018, Small Arms Survey reported that there are over one billion small arms distributed globally, of which 857 million (about 85 percent) are in civilian hands. The Small Arms Survey stated that U.S. civilians alone account for 393 million (about 46 percent) of the worldwide total of civilian held firearms.

Best of luck with your idea that the US Military would obliterate an armed US militia. If I remember correctly, thats what the British thought as well, while an armed militia with muzzleloading squirrel guns,Bayonets, and tomahawks took out an entire opposing military force with cannons, ships, breech-loading rifles, the Pattern 1776 infantry rifle, and Brown Bess muskets that could fire 4 rounds per minute.
 
Condor060 said:
Not true. Japan decided not to attack the US on our home ground because they stated there would be a gun behind every blade of grass. They were right. Currently you have 1.3 million active duty military personnel.

Take out 25% for administration. Then you would have to deal with the ones who refuse to fire on American civilians. And then those who have families in the conflict.

Given the fact that this would only be in the case of hostile Government against its citizens I doubt you would have any US military to defend the government. Not enough to even begin to protect those in power.

You think military pilots are going to bomb American cities knowing they are killing their own families and families of other soldiers? No officer is going to order his soldiers against his sworn oath to defend the constitution. An armed conflict against this government would be ousting those who are violating the constitution.

Not to mention, In 2018, Small Arms Survey reported that there are over one billion small arms distributed globally, of which 857 million (about 85 percent) are in civilian hands. The Small Arms Survey stated that U.S. civilians alone account for 393 million (about 46 percent) of the worldwide total of civilian held firearms.

Best of luck with your idea that the US Military would obliterate an armed US militia. If I remember correctly, thats what the British thought as well, while an armed militia with muzzleloading squirrel guns,Bayonets, and tomahawks took out an entire opposing military force with cannons, ships, breech-loading rifles, the Pattern 1776 infantry rifle, and Brown Bess muskets that could fire 4 rounds per minute.
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Uh.....Hawaii is our home ground. Lol
 
vegas giants said:
Cash your trump stimulus check yet?


Or did you send it back in the name of freedom and self sufficiency? Lol
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You still won't answer the questions. How is true conservative ideology racist?
 
I had coffee with a conservative friend this morning. I told him that trump was a white supremacist with mental illness and that if he got a second term it would mean the end of democracy in this country. He nodded solemnly and agreed.
 
dex4974 said:
You still won't answer the questions. How is true conservative ideology racist?
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Because it favors old rich white guys


Now answer my question


Watch him run folks. Lol
 
Condor060 said:
Not true. Japan decided not to attack the US on our home ground because they stated there would be a gun behind every blade of grass. They were right. Currently you have 1.3 million active duty military personnel.

Take out 25% for administration. Then you would have to deal with the ones who refuse to fire on American civilians. And then those who have families in the conflict.

Given the fact that this would only be in the case of hostile Government against its citizens I doubt you would have any US military to defend the government. Not enough to even begin to protect those in power.

You think military pilots are going to bomb American cities knowing they are killing their own families and families of other soldiers? No officer is going to order his soldiers against his sworn oath to defend the constitution. An armed conflict against this government would be ousting those who are violating the constitution.

Not to mention, In 2018, Small Arms Survey reported that there are over one billion small arms distributed globally, of which 857 million (about 85 percent) are in civilian hands. The Small Arms Survey stated that U.S. civilians alone account for 393 million (about 46 percent) of the worldwide total of civilian held firearms.

Best of luck with your idea that the US Military would obliterate an armed US militia. If I remember correctly, thats what the British thought as well, while an armed militia with muzzleloading squirrel guns,Bayonets, and tomahawks took out an entire opposing military force with cannons, ships, breech-loading rifles, the Pattern 1776 infantry rifle, and Brown Bess muskets that could fire 4 rounds per minute.
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Within 50 years most of our military will be mechanized.
 
Logical1 said:
Yesterday I met a long time friend for coffee. We always discuss politics. Unlike so many that always get mad and end up calling me names, we can talk with out getting mad. Yesterday it was what I call criminal aliens, and he calls refugees that was under discussion. I pointed that if you look at pictures of his refugees, most of them seem to be men from 18 to 30. I suggested that instead of running out of their countries, they should stay and fight for their rights, and improve their countries. Then to his regret he said but the government has all the guns, and there is nothing they can do. It was then I reminded him of the fact that at a former coffee, he said the government is the only group that should have guns. I simply said see, that is what you get if citizens dont have guns. I think it gave his something to ponder.
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Perhaps you should invite your friend so we can get his side of the conversation.
 
Cardinal said:
I had coffee with a conservative friend this morning. I told him that trump was a white supremacist with mental illness and that if he got a second term it would mean the end of democracy in this country. He nodded solemnly and agreed.
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You apparently think a lot of Trump's capability if you think he could do all of that.
 
dex4974 said:
You apparently think a lot of Trump's capability if you think he could do all of that.
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So what you’re saying then is that trump is ineffectual.
 
Cardinal said:
So what you’re saying then is that trump is ineffectual.
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That might be a sick gotcha if I actually supported Trump like you have repeatedly assumed despite me saying otherwise. You're off your rocker if you think one man will dismantle our way of life. Tone down the hyperbole and drama.
 
dex4974 said:
How does it favor white people? I would like you to detail the race part of it for me.



Trump isn't a real conservative; that's why I don't support him.
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That was not my question.


You are running
 
vegas giants said:
That was not my question.
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Your talking point is impotent.

vegas giants said:
You are running
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I'll answer for you. True conservative ideology does not favor white people; it has nothing to do with race. You thinking a philosophy of personal responsibility and freedom is a detriment to minorities is racist. Do you think white people are more capable than black people? You are the one that constantly makes race an issue.
 
This thread is a lie. The OP doesn't have any friends.
 
Cardinal said:
How gullible do you think we are?
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You're a troll. Imagine for a minute that you're wrong. I know that's a very hard thing for somebody like you to do, but bear with me. Imagine if all of this time I wasn't actually lying about my political preferences because I have literally zero motivation for doing so. Imagine how foolish, stubborn and extremist that would make you look. Well, that is reality my intolerant friend, and a stubborn extremist is exactly the part you're playing. Anyway, like I said, you're nuts if you think one person could unravel our way of life.
 
dex4974 said:
Your talking point is impotent.



I'll answer for you. True conservative ideology does not favor white people; it has nothing to do with race. You thinking a philosophy of personal responsibility and freedom is a detriment to minorities is racist. Do you think white people are more capable than black people? You are the one that constantly makes race an issue.
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I'll answer for you. You hate self sufficiency and freedom and want big government to pay your bills.


Hahahahaha
 
vegas giants said:
I'll answer for you. You hate self sufficiency and freedom and want big government to pay your bills.


Hahahahaha
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Go look in the mirror and ask yourself if you're really winning this debate right now.
 
vegas giants said:
I am. I see a winner....and handsome too!!! Lol
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Conservative ideology has nothing to do with race. Race being part of it is something you invented to demonize it.
 
dex4974 said:
Conservative ideology has nothing to do with race. Race being part of it is something you invented to demonize it.
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Self sufficiency and freedom have nothing to do with conservativism. You cashed your trump stimulus check. Lol
 
vegas giants said:
Self sufficiency and freedom have nothing to do with conservativism. You cashed your trump stimulus check. Lol
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You've got nothing at all. I have cornered and defeated you to the extent that you desperately cling onto an impotent and irrelevant talking point. Your inability to continue with honest and productive dialogue is obvious to all. You're acting like a child. Have some dignity and admit defeat.
 
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