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"Parasites" and the hypocrisy of the elite

Condor060 said:
So you thought the Dixiecrats didn't change parties but the republicans just became racist overnight? :lamo
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Leftists still haven't come to grips that after the 1968 election the people had enough of Democrat bigots and began electing Republicans. Newt Gingrinch and Lamar Alexander were among those Republicans elected to replace the Democrat bigots, but even then some States (like Alabama) kept their Democrat bigots until the 1990s, before replacing them with Republicans.

There was only one Democrat bigot who became a Republican - Strom Thurmond, after the 1948 election that he lost. All the remaining Democrat bigots remains Democrats until their death, including Sen. Robert "KKK" Byrd (Hillary's mentor) and Sen. James Fulbright (Slick Willy's mentor). It is well established fact that Democrats, particularly those who adhere to "identity politics" are bigots. It is a symptom of their psychosis.
 
Condor060 said:
I don't listen to him. I was around during Nixon so I know better. Among the racist Dixiecrats, Strom Thurmond of South Carolina was the sole senator to defect to the Republicans and he did this long before Nixon’s time. Only one Dixiecrat congressman, Albert Watson of South Carolina, switched to the GOP. The rest, more than 200 Dixiecrat senators, congressmen, governors and high elected officials, all stayed in the Democratic Party.

Thats why you can't find this list of people who all switched parties. Its nothing but a progressive idiotic scam.
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If you don't pay attention to him, why are you parroting the ignoramus and moron Dinesh D'Souza. Coincidence I'm sure:

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And for a list of a bunch of them, start at this tweet.

https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1013981449941331969
 
Lovebug said:
Great movie perhaps, one that addresses "Greed and class discrimination". Yet, Hollywood preaches from their lofty mansions, the question mark admiring elite pretends to know better than the average person how to live their lives. Don't forget, the south with all their "knuckle dragging rednecks" are the butt of the joke. What gives?
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20% of the Academy is foreigners, it was a short season this year, and the only other real option was a war movie. I am guessing most of the voters never saw it. It just looked like a politically correct box to check.
 
Condor060 said:
So you thought the Dixiecrats didn't change parties but the republicans just became racist overnight? :lamo
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You can't even make a coherent reply. Who claimed the "republicans" became "racist overnight?" Wasn't me. :confused:
 
Glitch said:
Leftists still haven't come to grips that after the 1968 election the people had enough of Democrat bigots and began electing Republicans. Newt Gingrinch and Lamar Alexander were among those Republicans elected to replace the Democrat bigots, but even then some States (like Alabama) kept their Democrat bigots until the 1990s, before replacing them with Republicans.
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You're ignorant of history. Lamar replaced Republican Fred Thompson.

There was only one Democrat bigot who became a Republican - Strom Thurmond, after the 1948 election that he lost. All the remaining Democrat bigots remains Democrats until their death, including Sen. Robert "KKK" Byrd (Hillary's mentor) and Sen. James Fulbright (Slick Willy's mentor). It is well established fact that Democrats, particularly those who adhere to "identity politics" are bigots. It is a symptom of their psychosis.
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WRONG! :lamo

https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1013981449941331969
 
JasperL said:
You can't even make a coherent reply. Who claimed the "republicans" became "racist overnight?" Wasn't me. :confused:
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Its in the fake Southern Strategy myth. Its the excuse of how Democrats shed a few hundred years of racism and how they all became Republicans. Hence the reason for the fake story in the first place.
 
Condor060 said:
Its in the fake Southern Strategy myth. Its the excuse of how Democrats shed a few hundred years of racism and how they all became Republicans. Hence the reason for the fake story in the first place.
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No, the Democratic party shed a few hundred years of racism starting with LBJ and a bunch of Democrats supporting, passing and signing the CRA, then the VRA in 1964 and 1965 and since then being consistent supporters of civil rights for blacks, and others, such as now LGBT.

Bottom line is Dinesh D'Souza and others fabricate an ignorant narrative about the "Southern Strategy" that's not supported by really anyone who has studied the issue. They create a straw man version of it, which is the GOP appealed to white southern racists and in just a few years, all these elected Democrats renounced their old party and became Republicans.

The more accurate 'story' is the GOP made the party safe for Southern white segregationists mostly by deemphasizing concerns over civil rights. In 1960 the GOP platform had a big chunk of it devoted to civil rights. By 1968, nothing. When Reagan appeared in his first post-convention speech in Philadelphia Mississippi and talked about "states' rights" and not the lynching of civil rights workers, that was part of it. He said the feds would stay out of similar matters, that states are the proper place to deal with those issues. That was the message of George Wallace and others - let the states deal with races issues. Reagan said, "I AGREE!!" So the party didn't have to become racist, just promise not to do things that would threaten racist southern whites, and they didn't.

And the bottom line is in 2020 the GOP is almost entirely lily white in D.C., and virtually all blacks who run for office do so as Democrats. Look at a picture of Congress, or the audience at the conventions, or at a Trump rally versus a rally for a Democratic party candidate. Obviously in this era that's not all about race - economics are a big part of it. But it's not an accident that the NC GOP requested a report on voting patterns for blacks in that state then targeted every way that encourages blacks to vote. It's why the courts struck down their "voting reform" bill because they targeted black voting patterns with almost "surgical precision." There's a reason the GOP has long opposed the Voting Rights Act, at least the part that limits state voting changes. They finally succeeded in gutting it, and NC was the result.

Etc.
 
JasperL said:
No, the Democratic party shed a few hundred years of racism starting with LBJ and a bunch of Democrats supporting, passing and signing the CRA, then the VRA in 1964 and 1965 and since then being consistent supporters of civil rights for blacks, and others, such as now LGBT.
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Why are you habitually lying? The Democratic Party never shed anything. The Democratic Party was full of bigots a century ago and they are still full of bigots today. You make idiotic claims without any support in defiance of actual historical events.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 would not have passed without Republican support. More Democrats opposed it than supported it. Democrats have a very long history of opposing Civil Rights Acts, going back to the very first one in 1866. Democrats vehemently opposed providing freed slaves reparations. Republicans passed it anyway, only to have it be vetoed by the impeached Democrat President Andrew Johnson. Even the 1989 Civil Rights Act, that corrected the atrocities committed by the fascist Democrat President FDR, was opposed by Democrats.

It took more than 100 years before Republicans were finally able to enact a law making lynching a federal crime in 2018. Democrats filibustered every attempt to make lynching a federal crime because lynching blacks was the Democrats favorite past-time.

Your lack of knowledge concerning American history, particular the atrocities committed by the Democratic Party, is the result of your leftist indoctrination. Nothing you claimed can be supported because you have been lied to by your leftist indoctrinators.

JasperL said:
And the bottom line is in 2020 the GOP is almost entirely lily white in D.C., and virtually all blacks who run for office do so as Democrats. Look at a picture of Congress, or the audience at the conventions, or at a Trump rally versus a rally for a Democratic party candidate. Obviously in this era that's not all about race - economics are a big part of it. But it's not an accident that the NC GOP requested a report on voting patterns for blacks in that state then targeted every way that encourages blacks to vote. It's why the courts struck down their "voting reform" bill because they targeted black voting patterns with almost "surgical precision." There's a reason the GOP has long opposed the Voting Rights Act, at least the part that limits state voting changes. They finally succeeded in gutting it, and NC was the result.

Etc.
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Only leftist freaks believe in "identity politics." Which is why the Democratic Party are still the bigots of the nation. Even today Hillary and other Democrats praise Democrat bigot Sen. Robert "KKK" Byrd and Democrat bigot Sen. James Fulbright. It is also why Democrat bigots continue to support Affirmative Action.
 
Condor060 said:
Let me fix it for you

Democrats had slaves for 200 years, fought a war to preserve the institution of slavery and then put in place laws which kept the Black Man down as little more than a slave for another 100 years.

Get your history right.
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You misspelled conservatives.

I got you though. Corrected as of now.
 
Glitch said:
By 1860 only Democrats owned slaves. Call them whatever you want, they were registered Democrats and slave owners.
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I have said this here before, and will again apparently.

You can call them what you want, it doesn't change the mindset they had.

Nobody dies or commits atrocities in the name of a political party. They do so in the name of an ideology. So if you want to discuss horrendous acts, you have to have the intellectual honesty to do it on the basis of what made that act come to pass. Saying they were Democrats and that THAT was what drove them to do those things is a false premise on its face. They did what they did because they were trying to CONSERVE what they felt was the way things should be and the way of life they were used to.

THAT is the driving force, not the fact that they were Democrats. Continue with the lazy debate tactics if you wish, but realize they are exactly that.....lazy.
 
Condor060 said:
Let me fix it for you

Democrats had slaves for 200 years, fought a war to preserve the institution of slavery and then put in place laws which kept the Black Man down as little more than a slave for another 100 years.

Get your history right.
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Let me correct this for you:

Conservatives had slaves for 200 years, fought a war to preserve the institution of slavery and then put in place laws which kept the Black Man down as little more than a slave for another 100 years.

Get your history right.

After the passage of the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, most of those very conservative Democrats became Republicans. The Democrats in congress that were supporters of segregation, were some of the most conservative members of congress. For example, the segregationist Strom Thurmond, was the 2nd most conservative member of congress when he was a Democrat (prior to becoming a Republican).
 
JasperL said:
No, the Democratic party shed a few hundred years of racism starting with LBJ and a bunch of Democrats supporting, passing and signing the CRA, then the VRA in 1964 and 1965 and since then being consistent supporters of civil rights for blacks, and others, such as now LGBT.

Bottom line is Dinesh D'Souza and others fabricate an ignorant narrative about the "Southern Strategy" that's not supported by really anyone who has studied the issue. They create a straw man version of it, which is the GOP appealed to white southern racists and in just a few years, all these elected Democrats renounced their old party and became Republicans.

The more accurate 'story' is the GOP made the party safe for Southern white segregationists mostly by deemphasizing concerns over civil rights. In 1960 the GOP platform had a big chunk of it devoted to civil rights. By 1968, nothing. When Reagan appeared in his first post-convention speech in Philadelphia Mississippi and talked about "states' rights" and not the lynching of civil rights workers, that was part of it. He said the feds would stay out of similar matters, that states are the proper place to deal with those issues. That was the message of George Wallace and others - let the states deal with races issues. Reagan said, "I AGREE!!" So the party didn't have to become racist, just promise not to do things that would threaten racist southern whites, and they didn't.

And the bottom line is in 2020 the GOP is almost entirely lily white in D.C., and virtually all blacks who run for office do so as Democrats. Look at a picture of Congress, or the audience at the conventions, or at a Trump rally versus a rally for a Democratic party candidate. Obviously in this era that's not all about race - economics are a big part of it. But it's not an accident that the NC GOP requested a report on voting patterns for blacks in that state then targeted every way that encourages blacks to vote. It's why the courts struck down their "voting reform" bill because they targeted black voting patterns with almost "surgical precision." There's a reason the GOP has long opposed the Voting Rights Act, at least the part that limits state voting changes. They finally succeeded in gutting it, and NC was the result.

Etc.
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Not really sure about this thing you have with Dinesh D'Souza is but did you mean the Voting Rights act that was voted against by 17 Democrats but only 2 Republicans?

And as far as black Democrats in office, you wouldn't be talking about the same blacks during the SOTU address that wouldn't even clap for historical black unemployment would you?
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
After the passage of the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, most of those very conservative Democrats became Republicans. The Democrats in congress that were supporters of segregation, were some of the most conservative members of congress. For example, the segregationist Strom Thurmond, was the 2nd most conservative member of congress when he was a Democrat (prior to becoming a Republican).
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So you are trying to refer to the Southern Strategy where all these racist Democrat (Dixiecrats) switched parties?

So who were all these Democrats who switched parties? Surely you can find a list. Right?
 
Tanngrisnir said:
LOL! Let me address your historical illiteracy: conservatives had slaves for 200 years fought a war to preserve the institution of slavery and then put in place laws which kept the Black Man down as little more than a slave for another 100 years.

Get your history right.

Too easy.
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conservative has to be seen in context of the society at this time.
 
calamity said:
That the GOP is racist
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more nonsense. Some GOP members are racist but racism is institutionalized by the Democrats. Many Democrat policies are motivated by racism-from gun control to affirmative action
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Let me correct this for you:

Conservatives had slaves for 200 years, fought a war to preserve the institution of slavery and then put in place laws which kept the Black Man down as little more than a slave for another 100 years.

Get your history right.

After the passage of the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, most of those very conservative Democrats became Republicans. The Democrats in congress that were supporters of segregation, were some of the most conservative members of congress. For example, the segregationist Strom Thurmond, was the 2nd most conservative member of congress when he was a Democrat (prior to becoming a Republican).
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As history remembers it, It was the origination of the Republican party that freed the slaves and from 1869-1935, every black Senator was Republican.

Black-American Representatives and Senators by Congress, 1870–Present |


US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives
 
bullseyelqcs said:
I have said this here before, and will again apparently.

You can call them what you want, it doesn't change the mindset they had.

Nobody dies or commits atrocities in the name of a political party. They do so in the name of an ideology. So if you want to discuss horrendous acts, you have to have the intellectual honesty to do it on the basis of what made that act come to pass. Saying they were Democrats and that THAT was what drove them to do those things is a false premise on its face. They did what they did because they were trying to CONSERVE what they felt was the way things should be and the way of life they were used to.

THAT is the driving force, not the fact that they were Democrats. Continue with the lazy debate tactics if you wish, but realize they are exactly that.....lazy.
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Then explain why the very first atrocity Democrats committed was the slaughter of 6,000+ native Americans during the Trail of Tears. That was entirely a Democrat strategy. Just like it was the Democrat plan to lock up and steal the property of tens of thousands of Americans without due process during WW II. Only Democrats committed these criminal acts, nobody else. Just like the Democratic Party is the sole founder and supporter of domestic terrorist organizations from the KKK, the National Socialist Movement, BLM, ANTIFA, ALF, and ELF. Once again, only Democrats are committing these atrocities and sponsoring terrorism.

The Democratic Party needs to be declared a terrorist organization, have all of its assets seized, and its leadership tried for treason among other crimes.
 
Condor060 said:
As history remembers it, It was the origination of the Republican party that freed the slaves and from 1869-1935, every black Senator was Republican.

Black-American Representatives and Senators by Congress, 1870–Present |


US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives
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You do realize that in 1869, Republicans were the liberals, right? Your post doesn't prove the point you think it does. Quite the opposite, actually.

That said....nowadays, to get a political position as a black man or woman in the Republican party, you have to be appointed in most cases, as opposed to elected.

How many African American members of Congress are Republicans currently? The answer is one....and he has decided not to run for reelection over disagreement with the administration in part. Otherwise, you guys talk a good game about African Americans, but sure aren't keen to put them in positions to affect change.
 
Glitch said:
Then explain why the very first atrocity Democrats committed was the slaughter of 6,000+ native Americans during the Trail of Tears. That was entirely a Democrat strategy. Just like it was the Democrat plan to lock up and steal the property of tens of thousands of Americans without due process during WW II. Only Democrats committed these criminal acts, nobody else. Just like the Democratic Party is the sole founder and supporter of domestic terrorist organizations from the KKK, the National Socialist Movement, BLM, ANTIFA, ALF, and ELF. Once again, only Democrats are committing these atrocities and sponsoring terrorism.

The Democratic Party needs to be declared a terrorist organization, have all of its assets seized, and its leadership tried for treason among other crimes.
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Conservatives......that is the word you are so desperately looking for but refuse to use.

The people who brought forth the Trail of Tears were the conservatives of thier time. Party name matters not. Thier ideology is what drove them to do that ****, not the party name. Hell, they could have called themselves the Plesiosauras Party, and it wouldn't have changed anything about what they did. Thats the point here. A conservative ideology drove those acts, not the name Democratic Party.

Try to keep up.
 
bullseyelqcs said:
Conservatives......that is the word you are so desperately looking for but refuse to use.
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Incorrect. Unlike you, I have an education and I know exactly the word I was looking for: DEMOCRAT

bullseyelqcs said:
The people who brought forth the Trail of Tears were the conservatives of thier time. Party name matters not. Thier ideology is what drove them to do that ****, not the party name. Hell, they could have called themselves the Plesiosauras Party, and it wouldn't have changed anything about what they did. Thats the point here. A conservative ideology drove those acts, not the name Democratic Party.

Try to keep up.
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The founder of the Democratic Party committed numerous atrocities. Not Whigs, not Republicans, only Democrats. You can pretend all you like, but there is only one political party who is responsible for killing more Americans than all the foreign wars the US has ever fought combined. There was only one political party that lynched blacks for more than 100 years after they lost the Civil War. There is only one political party that has committed numerous atrocities and repeatedly violated the rights of Americans for the last 192 years: The Democratic Party.

The Democratic Party is the greatest threat the US has ever faced. The sooner the Democratic Party is declared a terrorist organization and its leadership imprisoned the better.
 
Glitch said:
Incorrect. Unlike you, I have an education and I know exactly the word I was looking for: DEMOCRAT



The founder of the Democratic Party committed numerous atrocities. Not Whigs, not Republicans, only Democrats. You can pretend all you like, but there is only one political party who is responsible for killing more Americans than all the foreign wars the US has ever fought combined. There was only one political party lynching blacks for more than 100 years after they lost the Civil War. There is only one political party that has committed numerous atrocities and repeatedly violated the rights of Americans for the last 192 years: The Democratic Party.

The Democratic Party is the greatest threat the US has ever faced. The sooner it is declared a terrorist organization and its leadership imprisoned the better.
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You know nothing of my education, and even less about history.

Heres a tidbit for you to think about.....have I once denied that these atrocities were committed by Democrats? Nope. Not once. I just didn't let you get away with cherrypicking details to leave out, especially when they are the important details.

You seem totally incapable of disproving the ideological perspective of these people, because its not up for debate. The facts are what they are, and they don't line up well for your argument.

And you claim only one party has repeatedly violated the rights of the people.....and somehow you seem to forget that in the last 20 years, conservatives gave us things like the Patriot Act, which was a blatant violation of peoples rights.

You want to keep having this discussion on superficial ****, you can have it alone. When you want to have this conversation on the basis of what would have driven these people to do these things, get at me.
 
Glitch said:
Why are you habitually lying? The Democratic Party never shed anything. The Democratic Party was full of bigots a century ago and they are still full of bigots today. You make idiotic claims without any support in defiance of actual historical events.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 would not have passed without Republican support. More Democrats opposed it than supported it.
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I have no patience for people ignorant or stupid or lying questioning my honesty.

Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia

The Senate version:[21]

Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:[21]

Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)
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Now, let's break that down by region:

The original House version:

Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%) (four Representatives from Texas, two from Tennessee and Claude Pepper of Florida voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)
The Senate version:

Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)
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Hey, look at that! 100% of Southern Republicans opposed the CRA!!!

If you didn't know that much, your ignorance of history is nearly total, so I don't care what else you have to say on the matter.
 
Condor060 said:
Not really sure about this thing you have with Dinesh D'Souza is but did you mean the Voting Rights act that was voted against by 17 Democrats but only 2 Republicans?
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It's not me who is parroting him exactly - that's you.

And what you're demonstrating is more of the same willful dishonesty that he spreads, and you are repeating. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

Here's the no votes on the VRA. Gosh, what do 100% of the no votes have in common? White conservatives from the South!!

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And as far as black Democrats in office, you wouldn't be talking about the same blacks during the SOTU address that wouldn't even clap for historical black unemployment would you?
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Bottom line is the story Dinesh D'Souza tells us is the Democratic party are the REAL racists, which is why nearly all blacks run for office as Democrats, and blacks vote something like 80-90% Democratic in every national election. Or something..... :confused:

Do you think black voters and office holders are stupid? If not, why do they run as Democrats and vote Democratic for the racists and bigots in the Democratic party, that among other things advances blacks to positions of leadership, including President of the United States, and as mayors and governors in the state and local arena?
 
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