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It's Not Right VS Left Anymore

Ouroboros said:
Is that why AOC wants to get rid of the electoral college, then?

Or maybe it's just her way of insuring that voters in the largest cities are prioritized.
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She's just one representative that says extreme, unpopular things. Just like Steve Scalise says that family tree is made up of products of incest - WAIT! That kind of makes sense for Steve Scalise :2razz:
 
Praxas said:
So him saying windmills cause cancer is an exaggeration? Kissing the NK leaders ass is now ok? Him flat out lying about others is all exaggerations? You twist everything through an obvious bias FOR Trump personally and professionally.
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Playing nice for diplomatic reasons is very OK. Unless you want more nuclear arms around the world, back Trump on this one.

What is the all or none thing with you? I am guessing that some of the things you are calling "flat out lying" are exaggerations. I cannot say that all are. Trump was called a liar when he said they bugged Trump Towers, but he was right. How many others are there?
 
Craig234 said:
"If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal. - John Kennedy"
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Too bad today's crop of lib/progs eschew most of JFK's idealism and ideology.
 
Jay59 said:
Playing nice for diplomatic reasons is very OK. Unless you want more nuclear arms around the world, back Trump on this one.
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Oh so you can't play nice unless you say you are in love with said dictator? Come on man, it's clear you are stretching like gumby now.

What is the all or none thing with you? I am guessing that some of the things you are calling "flat out lying" are exaggerations. I cannot say that all are. Trump was called a liar when he said they bugged Trump Towers, but he was right. How many others are there?
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No, he was wrong and lied because he said they ILLEGALLY bugged his towers and he was wrong. So again you will defend and twist anything Trump says because you have a bias FOR Trump. Even when he is flat out wrong and lies.
 
NeverTrump said:
It's Civility VS Incivility
It's Morals VS Immorality
It's Propaganda VS Facts
It's Fascism VS Democracy

When they call us "liberals" what they really mean to say is that we are civilized people who care about the world and don't think everything is a freaking joke. They want to cause chaos, hate, and division.
When they want to attack people for holding different beliefs or looking different than them, it shows their insecurity and immorality.
When they say Fake News, and only listen to Trump or Trump lackeys, that's really propaganda.
When they say America isn't a Democracy, it's a republic, they want it to be run by a tin-foil hat dictator named Trump.
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I have found that the one rule for which there is no exception is that the "Left Always Projects" or put another way "If you want to know the bad things the Left is doing, listen to what they accuse you of."
 
Casca XV said:
I have found that the one rule for which there is no exception is that the "Left Always Projects" or put another way "If you want to know the bad things the Left is doing, listen to what they accuse you of."
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Always is too much. Still, this attitude will rarely get you in trouble.
 
lurchadams said:
She's just one representative that says extreme, unpopular things. Just like Steve Scalise says that family tree is made up of products of incest - WAIT! That kind of makes sense for Steve Scalise :2razz:
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That was Steve King.
 
Bullseye said:
Too bad today's crop of lib/progs eschew most of JFK's idealism and ideology.
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Policywise, JFK fits better with today's Republicans--lowering taxes, national defense, law enforcement, etc.
 
NeverTrump said:
It's Civility VS Incivility
It's Morals VS Immorality
It's Propaganda VS Facts
It's Fascism VS Democracy

When they call us "liberals" what they really mean to say is that we are civilized people who care about the world and don't think everything is a freaking joke. They want to cause chaos, hate, and division.
When they want to attack people for holding different beliefs or looking different than them, it shows their insecurity and immorality.
When they say Fake News, and only listen to Trump or Trump lackeys, that's really propaganda.
When they say America isn't a Democracy, it's a republic, they want it to be run by a tin-foil hat dictator named Trump.
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Got to ask then, why do you attack people for holding different beliefs than you?

Your big mistake is to lump everyone who may not agree with your beliefs have to be supporting Trump. There are some positions I agree with liberals. There are some positions I agree with Republicans. Your OP does make we wonder why you carry so much hate.
 
Jay59 said:
Policywise, JFK fits better with today's Republicans--lowering taxes, national defense, law enforcement, etc.
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Some have said he was the first Neocon!

5...4...3...2...1...:bomb:
 
lurchadams said:
She's just one representative that says extreme, unpopular things. Just like Steve Scalise says that family tree is made up of products of incest - WAIT! That kind of makes sense for Steve Scalise :2razz:
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You sure Steve Scalise said that? Perhaps you meant Steve King. Not too big on accuracy are you?
 
Bullseye said:
Some have said he was the first Neocon!

5...4...3...2...1...:bomb:
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I would have to say that democrats used to care about this nation. Now they want to suck the life out of it.
 
NeverTrump said:
It's Civility VS Incivility
It's Morals VS Immorality
It's Propaganda VS Facts
It's Fascism VS Democracy
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You got that part right.

When they call us "liberals" what they really mean to say is that we are civilized people who care about the world and don't think everything is a freaking joke.
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No, They mean the spoiled bratty little children who never got over an election,
who spread hate a fear with gangs like Antifa,
who will terrorize a news celebrities families in the middle of the night at their homes,
burn businesses,
block traffic,
attack conservatives in restaurants,
make false claims like the president is a planted Russian agent,
have their political leaders telling Liberals to get in the face of any conservative they find at a gas station.
gun down Republicans while playing soft ball,
stop free speech at colleges,
murder cops in the name of racism,
accuse a SCOTUS of being a high school alcoholic rape train conductor,
beat on the doors of the SCOTUS because they don't agree with a confirmation,
attack a high school kid in DC with fake news and try and ruin his life because they don't like his hat,
call the election of Trump a White wash,
accuse every Trump supporter of being a white supremacist,
call the FLOTUS a whore
broadcast so much fake news that their number one cable news network (CNN) falls below the cartoon channel and Nickelodeon in ratings
Offers free healthcare at taxpayer expense to all Illegal aliens
Provides sanctuary cities to illegal aliens
has the highest gun murder rates in their democratic run cities
lies about the current state of the economy

And thats just for starters

When they say America isn't a Democracy, it's a republic, they want it to be run by a tin-foil hat dictator named Trump.
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No it means that Liberals have no clue what the constitution says.
 
lurchadams said:
She's just one representative that says extreme, unpopular things. Just like Steve Scalise says that family tree is made up of products of incest - WAIT! That kind of makes sense for Steve Scalise :2razz:
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So far I'm not aware of many, if any, moderate democrats who have repudiated the things said by AOC and her squad.

That's why I'm skeptical of the OP's declaration that Liberals "are civilized people who care about the world." Recent events would suggest that they, like their opponents, are just out for Power.
 
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