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Are Hispanics Going Trump/Republican ?

marke said:
It doesn't matter who they vote for, we need to change voting laws to make sure they don't vote at all.
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There is no express immigration clause in our federal Constitution and we should have no illegals or any illegal underclass simply Because all foreign nationals should be known to the general government and federally identified for civil purposes. We should be upgrading Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure to solve our illegal problem.
 
Obscurity said:
This isn't proof.

This is proof.

Some Noncitizens Do Wind Up Registered To Vote, But Usually Not On Purpose : NPR

Your statistics are complete nonsense. In pa my home state 544 votes were cast that may have been cast by illegals over a 17 year period. That amounts to 32 votes per year. Which is in line with accidental registration. Moreover, the 544 accounts for a paltry .000006% of total votes cast in my state, during that 17 year period, which totalled 94,000,000 votes.

This is a real witch hunt. The number is a statistical anomaly and seems to be tied to states sending voter registrations out to addresses and confusing people.

Of course you'll deny facts and spin more agitprop and paranoia, but I cant force you to accept reality.
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I don't know if democrats cannot understand or just do not want to understand. Nobody knows how many illegals have voted because no in-depth studies have been conducted to find out. But, democrats do not want to add security measures to guard against illegal voting. I find that strange since they talk all the time about Russian voter fraud. They don't know how many votes the supposed Russian fraud may have unfairly changed and yet they adamantly resist adding protections against fraud in voting.
 
danielpalos said:
There is no express immigration clause in our federal Constitution and we should have no illegals or any illegal underclass simply Because all foreign nationals should be known to the general government and federally identified for civil purposes. We should be upgrading Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure to solve our illegal problem.
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Sat what? Are you suggesting it is not wrong for illegals to vote in America?
 
marke said:
I don't know if democrats cannot understand or just do not want to understand. Nobody knows how many illegals have voted because no in-depth studies have been conducted to find out. But, democrats do not want to add security measures to guard against illegal voting. I find that strange since they talk all the time about Russian voter fraud. They don't know how many votes the supposed Russian fraud may have unfairly changed and yet they adamantly resist adding protections against fraud in voting.
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Now the goalposts move. So if you dont know how many, how can you make the claims you're making? It seems to me in my state we do know.

32 year.

Out of 7 million.

Seems what you dont want to do is understand you're spewing nonsense.
 
marke said:
Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote
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Do you understand that this poll was conducted by John McLaughlin? I'll tell you how biased this poll is right after I tell you how misleading it is. You actually have to read the article and be aware of vagueness and lack of details.

This for instance; “Since 80 percent of noncitizens vote Democratic, according to the study, noncitizen participation could have" been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes"... etc. and blah blah

"could have been" ? Is that a number of some kind? It it even an estimation? Nope, it's a 'could have been' guess.

Now about the McLaughlin Group that does their own special polls. To begin with they were hired by Trump and we know how fair, unbiased and bipartisan he is-- right? Not at all. So that's my first point. Trump hired a local NY pollster to do polls only in New York State, just for him. Would you say that's fair and unbiased?

John McLaughlin is the guy responsible for one of the biggest polling disasters in recent history. McLaughlin is most famous for his role in a historic upset: the astounding primary 2014 defeat of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor to college professor Dave Brat. McLaughlin was Cantor’s pollster, and released a poll two weeks before the race indicating Cantor would win by 34 points. Instead, he lost by 12 -- a polling flub of titanic proportions.

Daily Kos Elections, have dubbed his operation “one of the very worst polling outfits in the nation” and gleefully catalog his errors. Notable flubs include the prediction that Romney would win Virginia by 7 points in 2012, and Colorado by 4. Romney lost both.

Your poll is flawed on multiple fronts.
 
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marke said:
Sat what? Are you suggesting it is not wrong for illegals to vote in America?
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How did you get that idea? I am saying, all foreign nationals should be known to the general government and federally identified for civil purposes. We should have no illegals or illegal underclass.
 
Hispanics or Latinos? The Bolsonaro effect should have a strong impact on the Brazilian-American vote.

Luther said:
I decided to start a thread on this. I am sick of hearing that Hispanics are supporting Trump/Republicans in droves.


Other than Cuban's in Florida, I don't see Hispanics supporting Trump/Repub's


Let's go back to only about 7 months ago during the 2018 midterms to the state of New Mexico where there is the highest % of Hispanics of any other state. The DEMOCRAT senator won big time.

The Dem senator got a "D" rating from NumbersUSA on immigration.

I have been hearing for years that the Hispanics in New Mexico were against illegal immigration etc(Rolling eyes).

What a bunch of BS
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Obscurity said:
Now the goalposts move. So if you dont know how many, how can you make the claims you're making? It seems to me in my state we do know.

32 year.

Out of 7 million.

Seems what you dont want to do is understand you're spewing nonsense.
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After thorough investigation into voter fraud government investigators declared that they found only 32 cases of voter fraud out of 7 million? I don't believe that ism the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Can you provide a source to support that claim? Not a source which makes that claim, but a source which proves that claim beyond any doubt.
 
danielpalos said:
How did you get that idea? I am saying, all foreign nationals should be known to the general government and federally identified for civil purposes. We should have no illegals or illegal underclass.
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Are you saying that anyone who surreptitiously sneaks into the US should be automatically considered a legal resident and not an illegal squatter or alien?
 
marke said:
Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote
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A poll is your proof?(LOL)

They didn't just legalize Marijuana in your state did they?


This is the basis of your argument


Based on a sample survey of 800 Hispanics in 2013, McLaughlin found that of foreign-born respondents who were registered voters, 13 percent admitted they were not United States citizens
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Registered voters do not make them vote(Rolling eyes)
 
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marke said:
Who will feed, clothe, house and otherwise care for illegals in the US if American law forbids them from working to care for themselves?



You can either claim that illegals do not vote or you can claim they vote in insignificant numbers, but you can prove nothing because investigations into illegal voting have been blocked by democrats for decades.
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We're starting to lose you Marke
 
marke said:
After thorough investigation into voter fraud government investigators declared that they found only 32 cases of voter fraud out of 7 million? I don't believe that ism the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Can you provide a source to support that claim? Not a source which makes that claim, but a source which proves that claim beyond any doubt.
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I already did provide it. The links are in the article I gave you. It's a well documented fact in my state.
 
Luther said:
A poll is your proof?(LOL)
They didn't just legalize Marijuana in your state did they?
This is the basis of your argument
Registered voters do not make them vote(Rolling eyes)
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Are you trying to prove they do not vote illegally or that they can register to vote with no problem?
 
marke said:
Are you saying that anyone who surreptitiously sneaks into the US should be automatically considered a legal resident and not an illegal squatter or alien?
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How did you get that idea? Working in the "straw fields", lately?

We should be upgrading Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure, and generating revenue via public policy.
 
Obscurity said:
I already did provide it. The links are in the article I gave you. It's a well documented fact in my state.
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Democrats are not very good at research and logic. They think that what democrats tell them is proof which does not need verification.
 
danielpalos said:
How did you get that idea? Working in the "straw fields", lately?

We should be upgrading Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure, and generating revenue via public policy.
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Tell Congress to get off its butt and do something to fix immigration. Too many democrat politicians make news for themselves slandering the border agents for doing their jobs while refusing to fix the problems they falsely and stupidly claim the border guards are causing.
 
marke said:
Democrats are not very good at research and logic. They think that what democrats tell them is proof which does not need verification.
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dude, I live in PA. I've seen the studies linked in the NPR article.

you can keep putting your head in the sand but you're chasing a phantom. It's all designed to stoke fear. You fell for it.
 
marke said:
Tell Congress to get off its butt and do something to fix immigration. Too many democrat politicians make news for themselves slandering the border agents for doing their jobs while refusing to fix the problems they falsely and stupidly claim the border guards are causing.
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Only lousy capitalists lose money on border policy when we could be upgrading Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure, and solving our illegal problem and the pressure on our southern border.
 
danielpalos said:
Only lousy capitalists lose money on border policy when we could be upgrading Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure, and solving our illegal problem and the pressure on our southern border.
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Is Congress moving forward with your ideas?
I doubt it.
 
marke said:
Are you saying that anyone who surreptitiously sneaks into the US should be automatically considered a legal resident and not an illegal squatter or alien?
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I am saying, once we upgrade Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure, we should be making money on public policy and not losing money like bad capitalists are wont to do.

Why would we have an illegal problem?
 
Luther said:
I decided to start a thread on this. I am sick of hearing that Hispanics are supporting Trump/Republicans in droves.


Other than Cuban's in Florida, I don't see Hispanics supporting Trump/Repub's


Let's go back to only about 7 months ago during the 2018 midterms to the state of New Mexico where there is the highest % of Hispanics of any other state. The DEMOCRAT senator won big time.

The Dem senator got a "D" rating from NumbersUSA on immigration.

I have been hearing for years that the Hispanics in New Mexico were against illegal immigration etc(Rolling eyes).

What a bunch of BS
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No they are not. Maybe one or two will. The rest, no way..
 
danielpalos said:
I am saying, once we upgrade Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure, we should be making money on public policy and not losing money like bad capitalists are wont to do.

Why would we have an illegal problem?
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I am OK with that if that is what Congress wants to do. I just wish they would do something to fix problems instead of blaming innocent border guards for the problems Congress has caused and continues to cause.
 
Luther said:
I decided to start a thread on this. I am sick of hearing that Hispanics are supporting Trump/Republicans in droves.


Other than Cuban's in Florida, I don't see Hispanics supporting Trump/Repub's


Let's go back to only about 7 months ago during the 2018 midterms to the state of New Mexico where there is the highest % of Hispanics of any other state. The DEMOCRAT senator won big time.

The Dem senator got a "D" rating from NumbersUSA on immigration.

I have been hearing for years that the Hispanics in New Mexico were against illegal immigration etc(Rolling eyes).

What a bunch of BS
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Texas now has a majority Hispanic population and might go "blue"

If Texas becomes a blue state like New York and California, Trump might become the last ever Republican president.
 
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