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OLC determines that Trump's tax returns DO NOT have to be disclosed

BlueTex said:
What part of the constitution does congress having this power violate?


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The 4th Amendment, but they don't have that power.
 
apdst said:
That isn't what 1603(f) says. It specifically states that permission must be obtained from the tax payer whose returns they are, for Congress to make any information public.
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Putting aside that the statute is actually 6103(f), you are correct that permission must be obtained from the taxpayer for the returns to be made public, however, the request in question is NOT to make them public, merely for the committee to receive them.

Who put that clause in the 6103(f)?
 
BlueTex said:
Putting aside that the statute is actually 6103(f), you are correct that permission must be obtained from the taxpayer for the returns to be made public, however, the request in question is NOT to make them public, merely for the committee to receive them.

Who put that clause in the 6103(f)?
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Stop crawfishing and just admit you're wrong.
 
apdst said:
Stop crawfishing and just admit you're wrong.
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LOL... Who put the requirement that taxpayer permission must be granted before public disclosure? Are there any other ways the committee can make the return information public? Who determines those other ways?
 
BlueTex said:
Who made the law that was reviewed in United States v. Dickey :: 268 U.S. 378 (1925) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center
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The court can't change the law.

any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.

26 U.S. Code SS 6103 - Confidentiality and disclosure of returns and return information | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute
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ecofarm said:
It's just another lie from Trump. "I will..."

He said he would. He lied. And his supporters don't care.
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True, we don't because we see no reason other than continuing democrat crazed idiocy and harrassment. And a glaring violation of the Constitution.
 
apdst said:
The court can't change the law.
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So we agree, the committee has the right to demand the returns per the law, they just can't publicly disclose them... I assume you disagree with the OLC opinion?
 
Bullseye said:
True, we don't because we see no reason other than continuing democrat crazed idiocy and harrassment. And a glaring violation of the Constitution.
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Prefering the victim card over personal responsibility is common these days.
 
Bullseye said:
True, we don't because we see no reason other than continuing democrat crazed idiocy and harrassment. And a glaring violation of the Constitution.
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How is the committee using the law congress passed almost 100 years ago violating the constitution?
 
BlueTex said:
So we agree, the committee has the right to demand the returns per the law, the just can't publicly disclose them... I assume you disagree with the OLC opinion?
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That isn't what you said...lol

The law says "request" not demand.
 
BlueTex said:
How is the committee using the law congress passed almost 100 years ago violating the constitution?
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Because the law passed a hundred years ago violates the Fourth Amendment. Constitution supersedes IRS Code.
 
ecofarm said:
Prefering the victim card over personal responsibility is common these days.
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Nope, preferring adult behavior and the rule of law rather than a mob of crazed partisans.
 
apdst said:
That isn't what you said...lol

The law says "request" not demand.
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Actually the law says SHALL...

Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.


Where do you see the ability of the commissioner to refuse to honor the request in the law?
 
Bullseye said:
Because the law passed a hundred years ago violates the Fourth Amendment. Constitution supersedes IRS Code.
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What part of the constitution is the law violating?
 
Bullseye said:
Nope, preferring adult behavior and the rule of law rather than a mob of crazed partisans.
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Lying is not adult behavior. He lied in your face. And you play the victim card for him instead of holding him responsible. It's like battered wife syndrome.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
They want his tax returns so they can try to smear him and spread gossip over his tax returns.
They have zero legitimate reason to have access to them. The Supreme court won't allow this to happen!
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And why do you suppose his tax returns would smear him?
 
ecofarm said:
Lying is not adult behavior. He lied in your face. And you play the victim card for him instead of holding him responsible. It's like battered wife syndrome.
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Responsible for what? A silly campaign comment? It's not like he lied about something like, oh, I don't know - maybe how he was going to lower my healthcare premiums. Something trivia like that.
 
BlueTex said:
What part of the constitution does congress having this power violate?


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Are you asking what part of the Constitution is violated by congress getting their hands on the tax returns of private citizens for the purpose of making them public? That would be the 4th Amendment.
 
Bullseye said:
Responsible for what? A silly campaign comment? It's not like he lied about something like, oh, I don't know - maybe how he was going to lower my healthcare premiums. Something trivia like that.
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Whataboutism almost always follows immorality.
 
j brown's body said:
Trump's DOJ doesn't think Trump should have to release his taxes. Now, that is a surprise.
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This is a bad joke and it is on the American people.

Did anyone think there was a snowballs chance in hell Trump and Barrs DOJ would say otherwise?
 
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