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"I can tell you one thing right now, our gun laws will change"

soylentgreen said:
The usual thinking or more exactly, whinging of the pro gun group. You think in no other terms than they will take your gun away.

My answer is a society not bred by political factions to think that they have the right to kill.
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And how do you accomplish that? What is your answer? I want peace in the entire world but I don't have the answer for it. My words are empty, as are yours.
 
soylentgreen said:
You seem determined to say something foolish today.

Just because you started that way does not mean it has to continue. Yours is the silly argument of not even bothering to think for yourself, instead it is the meme of good enough for my grandfather, good enough for me.
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That's how our country was started. We have a first amendment and guess what the number two amendment was? Number TWO!
 
Moderate Right said:
And how do you accomplish that? What is your answer? I want peace in the entire world but I don't have the answer for it. My words are empty, as are yours.
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That is true america does not have the answer with its constitution. because people are using the right to own a gun to also believe that gives them the right to kill with a gun.
No one has the exact answer that is the thinking of a child when discussing politics.

But we can certainly be sure america is the wrong answer.
 
Moderate Right said:
That's how our country was started. We have a first amendment and guess what the number two amendment was? Number TWO!
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Repetition does not equal validation. At least try and say something interesting instead of thinking your words are so profound that all you need do is repeat the same nonsense.

Just because your country started with a violent revolution and you won it does not mean that it was therefor the best course to take. Possibly america would be a better place today if you had stayed with the commonwealth. You certainly would not have a ridiculous second amendment in that case.
 
soylentgreen said:
That is true america does not have the answer with its constitution. because people are using the right to own a gun to also believe that gives them the right to kill with a gun.
No one has the exact answer that is the thinking of a child when discussing politics.

But we can certainly be sure america is the wrong answer.
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In other words, you are just anti-American and that's all there is to it.
 
soylentgreen said:
Repetition does not equal validation. At least try and say something interesting instead of thinking your words are so profound that all you need do is repeat the same nonsense.

Just because your country started with a violent revolution and you won it does not mean that it was therefor the best course to take. Possibly america would be a better place today if you had stayed with the commonwealth. You certainly would not have a ridiculous second amendment in that case.
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All you can say is, "I hate America". You even say you don't have any answers other than that.
 
soylentgreen said:
Again, apparantly i need to repeat myself. I am not saying that the person was not a hero. i am saying that the person i was debating was using the story to create a fantasy that suited his agenda.
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Thanks for clarifying that.

To bad nobody at the 1st mosque had a gun the situation could of ended much sooner.
 
Moderate Right said:
All you can say is, "I hate America". You even say you don't have any answers other than that.
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I have not said i hate america. Pointing out how stupid some americans are with a gun is no more hating them than pointing out how some americans are to stupid to vote.
 
apdst said:
Too bad the kiwis don't have an equivalent to the 2nd Amendment.

They're going to have their rights stripped away and there won't be a damn thing they can do about it.
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American liberals will learn this someday......................... long after they are left wondering what the **** did we do?
 
soylentgreen said:
I have not said i hate america. Pointing out how stupid some americans are with a gun is no more hating them than pointing out how some americans are to stupid to vote.
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You know what is really, really stupid? Law abiding New Zealanders coming forward and giving up their guns, leaving only the Tarrants to have guns. Do you think the Tarrants are coming forward to voluntarily give up their guns? This is the insane madness of the left.
 
Moderate Right said:
You know what is really, really stupid? Law abiding New Zealanders coming forward and giving up their guns, leaving only the Tarrants to have guns. Do you think the Tarrants are coming forward to voluntarily give up their guns? This is the insane madness of the left.
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No the real insanity is thinking that we can walk around armed just waiting to kill anyone who looks suspiciously at you. The real sanity is to live in a peaceful society not one ready to kill.
 
soylentgreen said:
No the real insanity is thinking that we can walk around armed just waiting to kill anyone who looks suspiciously at you. The real sanity is to live in a peaceful society not one ready to kill.
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Maybe you need to tell that to the criminals and not the law abiding.
 
soylentgreen said:
No the real insanity is thinking that we can walk around armed just waiting to kill anyone who looks suspiciously at you. The real sanity is to live in a peaceful society not one ready to kill.
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What kind of society did New Zealand have one week ago?
 
veritas1 said:
Maybe you need to tell that to the criminals and not the law abiding.
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No i need say nothing to criminals. It is the so called law abiding americans who think they can kill their way out of the problem of why we have criminals that really need a talking to.
 
soylentgreen said:
No i need say nothing to criminals. It is the so called law abiding americans who think they can kill their way out of the problem of why we have criminals that really need a talking to.
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That's a mindless comment unconnected to reality.
 
soylentgreen said:
The same as we have always had. A tragedy occurred and people came together and those that suffered from it gave forgiveness to the one who did it.
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But they didn't turn their guns in then, did they? I mean New Zealand is attacked for supposedly having lax gun laws but the fact is your country hasn't had much actual gun violence to the point that many police don't even carry guns. So, even with their lax gun laws gun violence was actually rare and still is. And yet we have all of these law abiding citizens turning in their guns now so that the only ones left with guns are the bad guys. Does that really make sense?
 
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