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Bernie Sanders for closed borders

You'll find that the vast majority of politicians even on the left do not support open borders. It's a fake news hyperbolic exaggeration that's attached to anyone who criticizes ICE tactics and our flawed immigration system. It sure does fire up the Republican base to just repeat it over and over though.
 
When did Bernie ever say we should have open borders?
 
Master PO said:
Bernie for closed borders
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hahahahaha, caught red handed!
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Who is for open borders? I cannot think of any one off the top of my head.
 
Master PO said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie...on-their-progressive-push-in-deep-red-states/
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Do you realize that this article does not say one single word about immigration, closed or open borders, or even anything remotely related? Did you just google this then repost it without reading it? How lazy are you?

Sen. Bernie Sanders and Democratic candidate for Congress Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez spent time campaigning last week in a state many progressives wouldn't consider a campaign priority: Kansas.

CBS News' "Face the Nation" moderator Margaret Brennan sat down with Vermont's Sanders, a well-known face in Democratic politics, and New York's casio-Cortez, a rising star in the party after she defeated incumbent Rep. Joe Crowley, as they stumped in the Sunflower State.

Brennan asked why they would spend time campaigning for candidates in a red state like Kansas that voted overwhelmingly for President Trump.

Transcript: Sen. Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on "Face the Nation," July 22, 2018
"Well, Margaret, I happen to believe, passionately, that there really is not a blue-state, red-state tradition in this country. I think there's a lot of mythology attached to that," Sanders said.

"People, they believe that healthcare is a right," he continued. "People believe we should raise the minimum wage to a living wage. People do not think, as Trump does, that we should give a trillion dollars in tax breaks to the top 1 percent, but in fact we have got to demand that the rich start paying their fair share of taxes. Whether you're in Kansas or the Bronx or in Vermont, we have common interests and common aspirations and we have got to fight for an America that works for all of us, not just the 1 percent."

Ocasio-Cortez, who ran a campaign on a platform that included Medicare for all and free college tuition, said a populist-style approach "absolutely" brings out new voters.

"In fact, we start -- we found this here in New York, back home. We expanded the electorate 68 percent over the last off-year midterm primary," she said. "So for us, this is about inspiring people to the polls, giving them something to vote for, creating hope for this nation, and knowing that so long as there are working class Americans who believe in a prosperous and just future we will have hope, no matter how red the district."

In Ocasio-Cortez' case, Crowley attributed her win to two factors -- what he described as the "year of the woman" and the timing of the primary race. Asked if she agrees with that assessment, Ocasio-Cortez emphasized that it was her platform, and the organizing work her campaign did, that paved the way to victory.

Record number of women running for office in 2018
"Well, I think that the factors that ultimately created our win was the fact that we had bold commitments and I campaigned on hard commitments of Medicare for all, tuition free public college, ensuring a Green New Deal for our future," she said.

Pressed on whether she rejects the idea that her gender was a major factor in her victory, Ocasio-Cortez pointed to how a male-dominated Congress can create "blind spots in our legislation" on critical issues.

"In this moment, there's a confluence of factors that makes this moment inspiring. Right now more women than ever are running for office and I do think that women want representation in Congress, absolutely," she said. "Congress right now is 80 percent male. And that creates blind spots in our legislation. It means we don't have family leave, we don't have paid maternal and parental leave. It means that we don't get the equal pay that we want. So I think those issues certainly were important."
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Waste of a thread. Not many are for true "open borders," but many on the left are for changes to our immigration system and how ICE handles these issues. The former is not necessarily what the latter is trying to get at.
 
So he's talking of regulated immigration. He doesn't say we should cut off all immigration (which would be closed boarders). He says that open boarders (no regulation) is bad. He doesn't go much further, because the main subject of that video was wealth distribution in America. But he didn't advocate for closed boarders and specifically denounced open boarders.
 
Ikari said:
Did you link the wrong article? Nothing in there addresses open immigration policies.
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no i got it right....you would not say open borders would hurt the u.s. and then run around the country, with a person who advocates it, also tom perez says that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is the new face on the democratic party
 
Master PO said:
https://www.breitbart.com/big-gover...deserve-right-of-passage-to-freely-enter-u-s/

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: Illegal Aliens Deserve ‘Right of Passage’ to Freely Enter U.S.
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Too bad that link quotes what she actually said and doesn't just give us the lying headline.

That was dumb of them.


I think that immigration should be safe. I think that we should grant people a safe and documented right of passage. Republicans try all these scare tactics. And they go ‘Oh, open borders.’ Because they’re trying to incite fear. But what we really need to do is demilitarize a lot of what’s going on in terms of the detention of people, which has been happening for a very long time by the way.

So I think that when we talk about replacing it with a system, we talk about having a system that is safe, that documents people effectively, that is also not rooted in the discrimination that our immigration system was initially built on.

The first immigration law in the United States was the Chinese Exclusion Act. The first law about immigration in the United States was about how do we exclude a specific type of people. And our immigration system has really kind of evolved from that initial root and I don’t think it necessarily has to be that way.
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Master PO said:
no i got it right....you would not say open borders would hurt the u.s. and then run around the country, with a person who advocates it, also tom perez says that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is the new face on the democratic party
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So you don't actually have anything where Sander's endorsed open boarders. You're just going with supposition and a "guilt by association" argument, yeah?

OK, thought so.

Come back if you ever get any real evidence.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
So candidates should only campaign with other candidates who agree 100% on all positions?
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On matters as polarizing as open borders and destroying ICE?
Yes. Definitely yes.
 
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