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If Mueller Indicts Putin before Visit

Kal'Stang said:
No, he didn't. Only your wishful thinking has him admitting it. Real life doesn't work your way.
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You might have an argument if he only gave one answer. But he was asked two questions and he gave two answers to match the two questions.


Reuters reporter Jeff Mason asked on Monday,
“President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?”
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and the immediate Putin answer to both parts of the question
"Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.–Russia relationship back to normal.”
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Two questions - two answers.
 
Say! Thats a great question. If Mueller indicts Putin, then will the other countries where Obama attempted to influence THEIR elections be justified in arresting Him? Will they be justified in arresting Obama for Obama spying on Germany?

Man...this could get crazy!
 
Kal'Stang said:
I don't consider it interesting. :shrug: I consider it a very foolish suggestion.
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Understood. The post is unflattering to the dictator of Russia. Naturally you didn't like it.
 
Ahmm....no, things don't really work this way.
 
Ain’t gonna happen. Next!
 
haymarket said:
So just to be clear - you do NOT favor enforcing the law should Putin be indicted and come here?
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Maybe all should wait and see if Putin is indicted. If he's not will you, haymarket, call for Mueller's firing ??
 
hanger4 said:
Maybe all should wait and see if Putin is indicted. If he's not will you, haymarket, call for Mueller's firing ??
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The indictments are up to a Grand Jury of citizens. Why would I call for Mueller's firing? I don't get it.
 
haymarket said:
The indictments are up to a Grand Jury of citizens. Why would I call for Mueller's firing? I don't get it.
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Team Mueller has to present the evidence to the grand jury. If Putin has admitted to the crime then it's a slam dunk, if Putin isn't indicted then team Mueller didn't present.

Will you call for Mueller's firing if Putin's not indicted ??
 
haymarket said:
It appears that Trump has just given a hand with four aces to Robert Mueller. Trump has announced that an invitation to the White House has been extended to Putin for a possible Fall visit. The timing of that with the November midterm elections is obvious.

What happens if Mueller acts on the public confession of Putin that he did act to help Trump get elected and did direct his agencies to help him by indicting him right along with the two dozen underlings that have already been indicted by the Grand Jury?

Reuters reporter Jeff Mason asked on Monday,


and the immediate Putin answer to both parts of the question


Notice that he did not simply say "yes I did" but replied twice that he did because the question had two parts. YES, Putin admitted that he wanted to help Trump win the election, and YES Putin admitted that he directed Russian officials to help in that effort.

After all, if Putin admits he gave the orders, is he not also criminally culpable?

And what then happens if they announce a Putin state visit for mid October and Mueller gets a Grand Jury indictment of Putin the week before? Does Putin risk arrest when he comes to America? Would hundreds of thousands of citizens - perhaps even millions take to the street demanding such action?

Would both Trump and Putin risk such a thing?

Or would Putin be protected against such an action?
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PPPPPPPPLLLLLLLEEEEEEEAAAASSSSSEEEEE do it!

It will trigger the progressives so hard when Putin tells Muller to piss off
 
hanger4 said:
Team Mueller has to present the evidence to the grand jury. If Putin has admitted to the crime then it's a slam dunk, if Putin isn't indicted then team Mueller didn't present.

Will you call for Mueller's firing if Putin's not indicted ??
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Why would I do that?
 
Hedgology said:
PPPPPPPPLLLLLLLEEEEEEEAAAASSSSSEEEEE do it!

It will trigger the progressives so hard when Putin tells Muller to piss off
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You really don't seem to get it do you?
 
Hedgology said:
I do....
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No you don't. The point is that Mueller can be in a position to deny Putin his big White House trip this Fall simply by getting an indictment against him before he shows up. That would scare the bejesus out of him and be funny as a circus filled with known cars.
 
haymarket said:
No you don't. The point is that Mueller can be in a position to deny Putin his big White House trip this Fall simply by getting an indictment against him before he shows up. That would scare the bejesus out of him and be funny as a circus filled with known cars.
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It could; but it won't. Muller has no power to do what you are describing.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Nothing will happen to Putin by Mueller. Putin is a foreign dignitary who will have full diplomatic immunity. Mueller can't touch him.

Besides, do you really want to start a world war? Arresting the leader of a foreign country, particularly one that is powerful, would be a sure fired way to start one. Regardless if such an arrest is warranted or not.
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Putin is already an Unindicted co-conspirator. Everyone knows that. I expect McConnell/Schumer to let that one go as both parties serve their Nation.

The WW3 hysterical nonsense from the alt-right will not be received well in the history books. The GOP Senators will be the good guys, again, 44 years later.
 
haymarket said:
But he did NOT do that. Two questions were asked and he provided two answers.

And we have the reports of our intelligence agencies which back up those claims and admissions.
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Then we need to examine whether the intelligence reports meet the standard to be admissible in a court of law.
 
Hedgology said:
Lets say that this is true; what is going to compel Trump or Putin too cooperate.
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Putin can avoid the entire problem by simply not entering the USA.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Then we need to examine whether the intelligence reports meet the standard to be admissible in a court of law.
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We will leave that to Mr. Mueller who knows a thing or two about such matters.
 
JackA said:
Understood. The post is unflattering to the dictator of Russia. Naturally you didn't like it.
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:roll: Funny how arguing on behalf of the entire world somehow gets translated into me not liking that Haymarket said unflattering things about Putin. Rather lame attempt there JackA.
 
haymarket said:
It appears that Trump has just given a hand with four aces to Robert Mueller. Trump has announced that an invitation to the White House has been extended to Putin for a possible Fall visit. The timing of that with the November midterm elections is obvious.

What happens if Mueller acts on the public confession of Putin that he did act to help Trump get elected and did direct his agencies to help him by indicting him right along with the two dozen underlings that have already been indicted by the Grand Jury?

Reuters reporter Jeff Mason asked on Monday,


and the immediate Putin answer to both parts of the question


Notice that he did not simply say "yes I did" but replied twice that he did because the question had two parts. YES, Putin admitted that he wanted to help Trump win the election, and YES Putin admitted that he directed Russian officials to help in that effort.

After all, if Putin admits he gave the orders, is he not also criminally culpable?

And what then happens if they announce a Putin state visit for mid October and Mueller gets a Grand Jury indictment of Putin the week before? Does Putin risk arrest when he comes to America? Would hundreds of thousands of citizens - perhaps even millions take to the street demanding such action?

Would both Trump and Putin risk such a thing?

Or would Putin be protected against such an action?
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That would instantly discredit Mueller. Also, it wouldn't accomplish anything legally. It would look extremely political.
 
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