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Are US soldiers mercenaries now?

jimbo said:
Then don't pay the bill and fight your own wars. But don't call us when the going gets tough. The fact is that if the US hadn't had those bases Germans would be speaking Russian. And before that the British would be speaking German.
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Horse pucky, albeit commonplace USA horse pucky.
 
Keridan said:
You can show me where these invasions did not meet US law?
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US law is not the test. This is exactly what has made every US president since WWII a war criminal. No country has the right to illegally invade a sovereign nation. That was established by the US at Nuremberg.
 
Bum said:
Then you best come down off your mile high pillar of moral superiority and get after all those criminals.....I'll wait here for your autograph after you free the world from these dark overlords. :popcorn:
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The sitting US grand jury will sort this all out.
 
ralphcdp said:
US law is not the test. This is exactly what has made every US president since WWII a war criminal. No country has the right to illegally invade a sovereign nation. That was established by the US at Nuremberg.
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So... no evidence, just a bunch of hyperbole. Sorry to see your entire point go down the drain so quickly. Anyway, good luck with that and all!
 
Fledermaus said:
Sort what out? No grand jury has been convened for this.
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This is the end result of a 12 year old hopped up on Redbull that read a few minutes of Wikipedia, a few pages from the works of Francisco de Vitoria, and now understands everything. :roll:
 
Keridan said:
You can show me where these invasions did not meet US law? I'm quite sure the invaded countries didn't think it was legal.

I'll also look forward to the evidence of rapes, unnecessary and excessive destruction of property and theft. Hyperbole is fun.

Also, if you want to compare us to Britain, you'll of course be able to show us the map that shows all these countries as US colonies now.
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Yes, myriad rapes, myriad MyLais, myriad death squads, myriad US installed right wing dictators, with the Chagos Islanders the US just gassed their dogs, put the people on ships and dumped them on docks in other countries.
 
ralphcdp said:
The sitting US grand jury will sort this all out.
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I didn't know New Zealand convened US Grand Juries. Is that when we took over their country like you say we are imitating Britain in the past?
 
ralphcdp said:
Yes, myriad rapes, myriad MyLais, myriad death squads, myriad US installed right wing dictators, with the Chagos Islanders the US just gassed their dogs, put the people on ships and dumped them on docks in other countries.
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I look forward to you backing up any single claim you've made with any piece of evidence whatsoever. It will be a nice change from the apparent trolling of posts you keep throwing. Just a single thing would be a nice change. I mean, it wouldn't balance the idiocy of these posts, but it would at least show the posts have a chance of coming from a source that graduated 4th grade.
 
Keridan said:
I didn't know New Zealand convened US Grand Juries. Is that when we took over their country like you say we are imitating Britain in the past?
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From the sublime to the ridiculous. The US grand jury has been convened and is reviewing the evidence related to the controlled demolitions of WTCs 1, 2 & 7, which was the very reason it was set up.
 
ralphcdp said:
From the sublime to the ridiculous. The US grand jury has been convened and is reviewing the evidence related to the controlled demolitions of WTCs 1, 2 & 7, which was the very reason it was set up.
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Okay ... thank you. I almost took you halfway seriously, but this post cleared it up for anyone reading this crap. As I say to all the insane and uninformed posts... good luck with that and all!
 
Keridan said:
I look forward to you backing up any single claim you've made with any piece of evidence whatsoever. It will be a nice change from the apparent trolling of posts you keep throwing. Just a single thing would be a nice change. I mean, it wouldn't balance the idiocy of these posts, but it would at least show the posts have a chance of coming from a source that graduated 4th grade.
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Here is an incredibly sad tale illustrating the brutality of the USA.

Stealing a Nation

The expulsions began in 1965. People were herded into the hold of a rusting ship, endured rough seas and were dumped in the Seychelles, where they were held in prison cells. They were then shipped on to Mauritius, where they were taken to a derelict housing estate with no water or electricity. Twenty-six families died in brutal poverty, there were nine suicides and girls were forced into prostitution to survive.

The depopulation of the archipelago was completed within 10 years and Diego Garcia became home to one of the United States's biggest bases, with more than 2,000 troops, two bomber runways, 30 warships, facilities for nuclear-armed submarines and a satellite spy station.

In a series of moving interviews, Pilger hears from islanders forced from their homes. One woman recalls how she and her husband took their baby to Mauritius for medical treatment and were told they could not return. The shock was so great that her husband suffered a stroke and died. Others describe how the British and Americans gassed their dogs – beloved pets – as an inducement to pack up and leave. In exile in Mauritius, Lizette Talate's children ‘died of sadness’.

Stealing A Nation
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Keridan said:
Okay ... thank you. I almost took you halfway seriously, but this post cleared it up for anyone reading this crap. As I say to all the insane and uninformed posts... good luck with that and all!
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Why do you lamely try to make this about me? It is the US Federal Prosecutor for the Southern District of New York that has set up this grand jury.
 
ralphcdp said:
So after specifically asking for information you now flee. Why?
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I'm okay with you seeing it as fleeing. Your posts were very clear about my concerns of sanity and intelligence threshold for response. If you want to step it up to reality, I will get back with you. Until then, last time, good luck with that and all!
 
jimbo said:
Then don't pay the bill and fight your own wars. But don't call us when the going gets tough. The fact is that if the US hadn't had those bases Germans would be speaking Russian. And before that the British would be speaking German.
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And now we are all speaking English ;o)

was a joke - I´m quite glad that I did not grew up in the east - but thats not the Topic here now
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
My impression is that people just want peace and to leave others in peace, and have as little military or military activity as possible within reason. They don't want any arms race or spending lots of money on new war technology. It is the tyrannical political elite in the world who goes against the wishes of the people, and it's perpetuating. People just want stability in their life and live in safety, they don't want any schemes of domination or global powergames. So why is it so damn difficult for the political tyrants to do what people want? All of them are guilty, not just one class of political tyrants from one country, but all political tyrants from all countries.

All people share common interests and need and want the same things in life. So what is the problem? The tyrants are the problem, and our political system attracts and play into the hands of tyrants. Every power system does.

So when will we actually have any democracy in this world? When will the group of tyrants who rule our countries actually do what the people want? By the people for the people and of the people.
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The elites of history have regained the initiative due to two in particular struggling their way to the top. Being an elite isn't easy either, it's just easier than is doing it in a democracy.

Deng Xiao Ping told the Chinese what they wanted to hear, i.e., that getting rich is good. And that getting rich again will restore China to its rightful place as lord of the globe.

Vladimir Putin grabbed the Crazy Ivans of Russia by telling 'em Russia is eternal and that it's the United States that's a flash in the pan. And while Russia and China like the USA as a flash in the pan theory, Putin's waiting for China to go the way of the USSR. Russia itself meanwhile continues to fake being a world power.

USA was handling it well on a stable cruising speed until Putin-Trump who are a calculating wrecking crew against the USA. So it's a setback we'll have to resolve by democratic and Constitutional ways and means. We won't do that if democracy in America remains a spectator sport. Democracy has to be participatory to be viable and successful. Given the midterm, so far so good.

Putin-Trump are working against that however so we'll have to see how this develops. Armed forces chiefs and commanders for instance won't act to destroy democracy. The generals will definitely act to restore it however. So while even our best efforts to participate on an even playing field might not be enough, we do have to make the kickoff and then grind forward. We can succeed, yes. But so can Putin-Trump and their Fanboys continue to succeed. Because while we need order and the rule of law to succeed, all they need to continue to accomplish their antidemocratic purposes and goals is continued chaos.
 
ralphcdp said:
Russia didn't bomb Hiroshima and Nagaskai. Guess which evil country that was. Russia's response is to US escalating the nuclear race.
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United States budgeted a trillion bucks to upgrade its nuclear arsenal after it determined Putin was serious about hypersonic glide nukes and nuclear torpedoes and new nuclear warheads on new missiles and numerous weapons treaty violations and so on. The then SecDef Ashton Carter got on the case in 2015 after US and Nato intelligence determined Putin was for sure developing -- of all things -- Russian third strike capabilities.

I wouldn't call Putin a mad scientist because that's out of 1950s science fiction and we know anyway Putin is not a physical scientist. What is not out of science fiction is Putin's madness itself. Unfortunately the madman leader is classic in itself as we know from history. There anyway is nothing wrong with the US staying ahead of Russia, China, Iran, NK in its military capacities and capabilities. It's an obligation in fact to the American people and our way of life.
 
ralphcdp said:
The US hung the Nazis and the Japanese for the same things the USA had done. And continues to do. Every US president since WWII has been a war criminal by the same standards as what the WWII war criminals were tried by.
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The US has set up death camps and murdered millions of people? The US has set up mass rape camps? The US has used biological weapons?

Where?
 
ralphcdp said:
Russia didn't bomb Hiroshima and Nagaskai. Guess which evil country that was. Russia's response is to US escalating the nuclear race.
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The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki actually killed far fewer than a conventional invasion would have.
 
Tangmo said:
United States budgeted a trillion bucks to upgrade its nuclear arsenal after it determined Putin was serious about hypersonic glide nukes and nuclear torpedoes and new nuclear warheads on new missiles and numerous weapons treaty violations and so on. The then SecDef Ashton Carter got on the case in 2015 after US and Nato intelligence determined Putin was for sure developing -- of all things -- Russian third strike capabilities.

I wouldn't call Putin a mad scientist because that's out of 1950s science fiction and we know anyway Putin is not a physical scientist. What is not out of science fiction is Putin's madness itself. Unfortunately the madman leader is classic in itself as we know from history. There anyway is nothing wrong with the US staying ahead of Russia, China, Iran, NK in its military capacities and capabilities. It's an obligation in fact to the American people and our way of life.
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That is typical rank US propaganda. If you actually listened to Mr Putin, you would see that he and his compatriots are very level headed people unlike the always war mongering US politicians.

Watch,

The Coming War On China (John Pilger) | History Documentary | Reel Truth History

YouTube

to see how the US used and still uses Marshall Islanders as radiation test guinea pigs.
 
Tigerace117 said:
The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki actually killed far fewer than a conventional invasion would have.
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That doesn't mitigate the US war crimes for those events or the US war crimes for firebombing.
 
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