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Muslim Sex Gang Busted in England [W:117]

joG said:
Thing is, their doing it anywhere means that the Muslims aren't the bad guys but only bad guys too. That they are doing it in the U.K. is incidental or maybe even the fault of the Brits that didn't integrate them. ;)
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Why not, let's blame UK society for letting these sub cultures to thrive with impunity and no fear of ever getting caught. That's pretty much what happened in these Northern Towns of England. Multiculturalism affords the up most protection of a groups ways and customs.
 
gunner said:
Why not, let's blame UK society for letting these sub cultures to thrive with impunity and no fear of ever getting caught. That's pretty much what happened in these Northern Towns of England. Multiculturalism affords the up most protection of a groups ways and customs.
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They were caught though.
 
gunner said:
Yea.There was a lot of victim blaming surrounding the Rochdale case (s). No call for sarcasm, it's a fact.
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IMO, it was a result of and a gross example of "rape culture," pure and simple. After all, it's just women. How else would we explain this?

Rochdale grooming scandal detective Maggie Oliver slams 'outrageous' early release of gang members - Manchester Evening News

A former detective turned whistleblower has told of her outrage that all but two of Rochdale’s sex grooming gang have been freed less then five years into their jail sentences...

Maggie Oliver insisted the seven who have been released should have been charged with rape - which attracts a longer sentence - rather than sexual activity with a child or trafficking offences.

She worked on the operation but later resigned in disgust at the way victims were treated.
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gunner said:
IC we've been down this road far to many times. But for clarity if it makes you feel better, the overwhelming majority are Pakistani with a sprinkling of others, sharing identical views.
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A road not worth travelling on isn't worth starting the journey on. I agree the vast majority of members of muslim rape gangs were Pakistani. There is no doubt.
The vast majority of paedophiles however is a different thing altogether.
 
Only too bad they haven't hanged anyone there since the 1960's. These bastards seem like good candidates for the gallows.
 
Can any reasonable person deny that cultural diversity and multiculturalism are wonderful? Just look at this example of how foreigners have brought new perspectives about the treatment of females to British culture. Surely we should celebrate the fact that other cultures have views which differ from our own.
 
gunner said:
But could've been caught a whole lot sooner, no?
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The fact that these events happened a decade and more ago, shows that the police/authorities are not going to let them get away with their crimes.
 
Andalublue said:
Not contesting that these groups you highlight may have Indian or Pakistani roots, but that it's 'a Muslim thing', as per the comment I replied to. Reading's a great skill to master.
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OK, so it's a cultural practice, not a religious one. Won't you now just move on to downplaying why this certain culture is raping so many children in England?

Similarly, when people talk about FGM being a Muslim practice we can easily show that it is a cultural practice almost wholly unrelated to religion and highly prevalent in Christian as well as majority Muslim societies.
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Garbage. This is why these atrocities persist, because good people think they have to explain them away in order to remain good.

Truthatallcost is using these horrible crimes to further his anti-Muslim obsession and thus far it has been pretty obvious that you've no inclination to correct him. I guess you need to find allies where you can.
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Can't you address gunner without trying to make him feel guilty for his concern over the issue here? At least he's not burying his head in the sand like you are.
 
Perhaps since this such a common thing, the people of the UK should just learn to adapt to their Muslim guests and their customs and traditions.
 
matchlight said:
Can any reasonable person deny that cultural diversity and multiculturalism are wonderful? Just look at this example of how foreigners have brought new perspectives about the treatment of females to British culture. Surely we should celebrate the fact that other cultures have views which differ from our own.
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That's a retarded statement.

If this was down to cultural diversity and multiculturalism then there would be more rapes by a wider range of ethnicities. Fact is, the vast majority of paedophiles in the UK are not muslims or Pakistani.

VanceMack said:
Perhaps since this such a common thing, the people of the UK should just learn to adapt to their Muslim guests and their customs and traditions.
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Now, the majority of Pakistani rapists are Pakistani - that bit is easy. Now look at all the other paedophiles out there.. Who do you think are the common rapists?
 
truthatallcost said:
Sigh..here we go again. As I previously predicted, more rape gangs consisting of men from Muslim backgrounds have been found to be operating in the UK, this time in the town of Huddersfield, in West Yorkshire.



Can anyone from the UK tell me WHY the hell English children are being raped by gangs of Pakistani men, and this isn't a bigger issue? Is there a soccer game on or something? Stopping the rape of English girls need to be PRIORITY #1, if you want your girls to have any kind of a future.
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Names of those arrested and their charges:


Amere Singh Dhaliwal , 34, of Huddersfield. He is charged with rape (x21), supply of Class A drugs (x4), supply of Class B drugs, supply of controlled substances with intention to engage in sexual activity, trafficking female within the UK with a view to her sexual exploitation (x14), Incite a child to engage in sexual activity (x5), sexual assault by penetration, sexual touching (x3), possession of indecent images of a child (x3), racially aggravated assault and incite a child into prostitution.

Irfan Ahmed, 32, of Huddersfield. He is charged with trafficking a female within the UK with a view to her sexual exploitation (x6), sexual touching, taking indecent images of a child and inciting a child to engage in sexual activity.

Asif Bashir, 32, of Huddersfield. He is charged with rape (x4) and attempted rape.

Zahid Hassan , 28, of Huddersfield. He charged with trafficking a child within the UK with a view to her sexual exploitation (x5), rape (x8), racially aggravated assault, supply of Class A drugs (x2), inciting a child into sexual activity, child abduction (x2) and attempted rape.

Manzoor Hassan , 37, of Huddersfield. He is charged with supply of noxious substance with intent to injure, annoy or aggrieve female, supply of Class A drugs (x2) and incite a child into prostitution.

Mohammed Kammer, 32, of Huddersfield. He is charged with two counts of rape.

Mohammed Rizwan Aslam , 29, of Huddersfield. He is charged with two counts of rape.

Abdul Rehman Hanif , 29, of Huddersfield. He is charged with rape, supply of Class A drugs, supply of Class B drugs (x2), supply of controlled substance with intent to engage in sexual activity, sexual touching and trafficking a female within the UK with a view to her sexual exploitation.

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Not a single Lars Larsson among them.
 
Andalublue said:
Not contesting that these groups you highlight may have Indian or Pakistani roots, but that it's 'a Muslim thing', as per the comment I replied to. Reading's a great skill to master.

Similarly, when people talk about FGM being a Muslim practice we can easily show that it is a cultural practice almost wholly unrelated to religion and highly prevalent in Christian as well as majority Muslim societies.

Truthatallcost is using these horrible crimes to further his anti-Muslim obsession and thus far it has been pretty obvious that you've no inclination to correct him. I guess you need to find allies where you can.
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Yet sadly, most of you on the other side never comment on the fact that these are essentially Muslim gangs preying on non-Muslim victims. Apparently it is not politically correct for you to admit this. Why is that?
 
Infinite Chaos said:
A road not worth travelling on isn't worth starting the journey on. I agree the vast majority of members of muslim rape gangs were Pakistani. There is no doubt.
The vast majority of paedophiles however is a different thing altogether.
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1.86%......

Do you happen to know what that figure represents? It is the TOTAL percentage of the population of the UK with Pakistani ancestry. So we can safely assume that dividing that figure by 2 will give us an idea of the overall percentage of the UK's population that are males of Pakistani ancestry, which turns out to be 0.93%.

It is high time for you to address why 0.93% of the UK's population commits so many of the rapes in the UK, and why these rapes are often times racially motivated.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
That's a retarded statement.

If this was down to cultural diversity and multiculturalism then there would be more rapes by a wider range of ethnicities. Fact is, the vast majority of paedophiles in the UK are not muslims or Pakistani.



Now, the majority of Pakistani rapists are Pakistani - that bit is easy. Now look at all the other paedophiles out there.. Who do you think are the common rapists?
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How many groups of Muslims engaging in organized sex attacks in the UK do you have to see before you acknowledge there may just be a pattern and it might have to do with how their culture views non-muslim girls?
 
truthatallcost said:
VanceMack said:
How many groups of Muslims engaging in organized sex attacks in the UK do you have to see before you acknowledge there may just be a pattern
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~ It is high time for you to address why 0.93% of the UK's population commits so many of the rapes in the UK
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Did I deny that Pakistani muslims are a highly overrepresented in rape gangs? Oh dear for you, I didn't.

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VanceMack said:
How many groups of Muslims engaging in organized sex attacks in the UK do you have to see before you acknowledge there
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~ and why these rapes are often times racially motivated.
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That's one of the more stupid comments from the past 6 years discussing this subject.
 
Manc Skipper said:
The fact that these events happened a decade and more ago, shows that the police/authorities are not going to let them get away with their crimes.
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You would like to think that. Unfortunately, the Police and CPS had to be dragged kicking and screaming, before they acted. Sadly, recent reports from Rotherham is that it's still going on to some degree. Newcastle had 10s of mainly Asian men charged not very long ago.

I'm not even sure if this is the most recent batch: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.ch...thumbria-police-charged-20-people-8587632.amp
 
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Considering that according to a 2011 census, 38 pct of Muslims in UK are Pakistani, how is the clear and obvious propensity for those very same disproportionately engaging in these foul atrocities more of a Muslim thing than it is (apparently) a Pakistani thing?

Even if we take out (from what remains) the 4 pct Muslims of mixed ethnicity, the 3 pct white Brit Muslims, the 5 pct other white Muslims and the last 4 pct of "other", that still leaves 46 pct Muslims that are Arab (7 pct), black (10 pct), other Asian (14 pct) and Bangladeshi (15 pct).

Wouldn't any of these show up in organized sexual abuse of children in proportion of their respective percentage as well?

And why the hell does all this appear to happen primarily (not exclusively, mind you) in Yorkshire? Where one can see a large contingent of Pakistanis there altogether (about 19 pct of Pakistanis, according to 2011 figures), the vast majority of Pakistanis lives elsewhere in Britain.

Hullo, anybody home in the logic department?
 
truthatallcost said:
~...................Garbage. This is why these atrocities persist, because good people think they have to explain them away in order to remain good. ................~
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The point you address was over FGM not being a Muslim thing at all and was accurate.

Calling it garbage isn't.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Did I deny that Pakistani muslims are a highly overrepresented in rape gangs? Oh dear for you, I didn't.
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No, but you were quickly heading down Meaningless Spin Road, by trying to divert attention towards the fact that most sex offenders in a predominantly white country, are in fact the race of the majority. That fact is rapidly changing anyway, and as soon as the British government stops being so wimpy about all this, we should have a more accurate glimpse of who's doing what.



That's one of the more stupid comments from the past 6 years discussing this subject.
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Calling something stupid doesn't make it so. In fact, offering no explanation about what you mean, makes your comment look stupid.
 
truthatallcost said:
When the majority of FGM cases occur, are they motivated by religion?
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Did you miss that the practice, where carried out, pre-dates the advent of both Islam and Christianity?

If those carrying it out have incorporated it into whichever religion meanwhile came along, yeah, I suppose religion could be considered motivational by now.

Both religions, if invoked.
 
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