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Global Warming is Worse than we Thought

Media_Truth said:
Interesting... I found this portion of your link intriguing.

Why is the climate change question going to come up? University of Miami’s hurricane expert Brian McNoldy wrote in his blog, “Only about 2% of Atlantic named storms ever achieve Category 5 status.” Phil Klotzbach also tweeted the graphic above illustrating where Category 5 storms first reached that intensity. Hurricane Lorenzo is the blue dot. The bottom line is that Category 5 storms are already rare, and Hurricane Lorenzo is unprecedented in the record-keeping era. We just don’t see hurricanes at this intensity so far east and north because water temperatures are typically too cold and wind shear conditions can also be restrictive. I am old enough to remember the old Sesame Street rhyme “One of these things is not like the other” and now I am humming it.
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The local weather guy mentioned this, but also said that we have only been able to get readings from that
area of the ocean since the late 1990's, so the record is a little over 20 years old.
 
longview said:
The local weather guy mentioned this, but also said that we have only been able to get readings from that
area of the ocean since the late 1990's, so the record is a little over 20 years old.
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Local TV weatherman vs hurricane expert?

Gosh.

Gotta go with the one who has denier talking points.
 
Threegoofs said:
Local TV weatherman vs hurricane expert?

Gosh.

Gotta go with the one who has denier talking points.
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How far back the records for an area extend, is not an expert opinion, but a matter of record.
 
longview said:
How far back the records for an area extend, is not an expert opinion, but a matter of record.
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Not necessarily.

They have a tendency of "correcting" the records.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Not necessarily.

They have a tendency of "correcting" the records.
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Correcting in this case would require manufacturing data where none exists.
They cannot change the launch date of a satellite to some earlier, so coming up with data
before the launch date, may have it's challenges!
 
longview said:
How far back the records for an area extend, is not an expert opinion, but a matter of record.
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While I’m sure we all have the greatest respect for TV weathermen as the pinnacles of scientific knowledge, I suppose there’s a chance he might not be aware of longer term records since he was busy in makeup before the show, and had to visit an elementary school earlier to teach first graders how green screens work.
 
longview said:
Correcting in this case would require manufacturing data where none exists.
They cannot change the launch date of a satellite to some earlier, so coming up with data
before the launch date, may have it's challenges!
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The data comes in spectral sounding, which all they have to do is alter the formula to change the outcome.
 
Threegoofs said:
While I’m sure we all have the greatest respect for TV weathermen as the pinnacles of scientific knowledge, I suppose there’s a chance he might not be aware of longer term records since he was busy in makeup before the show, and had to visit an elementary school earlier to teach first graders how green screens work.
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Nope, He knows when the satellite covering that area was launched.
 
Lord of Planar said:
The data comes in spectral sounding, which all they have to do is alter the formula to change the outcome.
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True, they do keep a all the data, so could reprocess the data, but if the geographical area was not covered,
they do not have a logical leg to stand on.
 
longview said:
The local weather guy mentioned this, but also said that we have only been able to get readings from that
area of the ocean since the late 1990's, so the record is a little over 20 years old.
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I see nothing about 20-year records in that link. I did notice this however, which could partially explain a CAT 5 hurricane that far east.

The proportion of storms that reach very intense (Category 4 and 5) levels is likely to increase as a result of anthropogenic warming over the 21st century, but there is less confidence changes in the number or frequency Category 4 and 5 storms. In terms of the number of storms of all categories, most models project very little change or a slight decrease. However, when they happen, on average, they are likely to be stronger.”
 
Media_Truth said:
I see nothing about 20-year records in that link. I did notice this however, which could partially explain a CAT 5 hurricane that far east.

The proportion of storms that reach very intense (Category 4 and 5) levels is likely to increase as a result of anthropogenic warming over the 21st century, but there is less confidence changes in the number or frequency Category 4 and 5 storms. In terms of the number of storms of all categories, most models project very little change or a slight decrease. However, when they happen, on average, they are likely to be stronger.”
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I think the early predictions of increased storm numbers and intensity has not really panned out.
We are seeing a storm in an area of the ocean that has only been recorded for a few decades,
it may or may not be unusual.
 
longview said:
I think the early predictions of increased storm numbers and intensity has not really panned out.
We are seeing a storm in an area of the ocean that has only been recorded for a few decades,
it may or may not be unusual.
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Tell that to the residents of Houston. :roll:



You now, from that second 1000-year storm in two years. :lol:
 
calamity said:
Tell that to the residents of Houston. :roll:



You now, from that second 1000-year storm in two years. :lol:
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I am a resident of Houston, I have been one for over 5 decades, these storms happen on average every 7 years.
I do have to wonder why they call they 1000-year storms, when they have been happening
as long as a city has been here?
HCFCD - Harris County's Flooding History
Harris County suffered through 16 major floods from 1836 to 1936,
some of which crested at more than 40 feet, turning downtown Houston streets into raging rivers.
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A little math shows us that the area had a major flood in the century before 1936, every 6.25 years on average.
 
calamity said:
Tell that to the residents of Houston. :roll:



You now, from that second 1000-year storm in two years. :lol:
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I wish your stupid remarks only occurred once every 1,000 years.

Don't you get it? It's not a 1,000 year storm, but a 1,000 year cycle, of which there will be several events.

Why is that do hard for you to get through your thick skull?
 
calamity said:
Tell that to the residents of Houston. :roll:



You now, from that second 1000-year storm in two years. :lol:
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Storms and flooding will continue to get worse. The IPCC and the National Academy of Science aren't conclusive about the numbers of storms, but they do both say that the intensity will be greater.
 
Media_Truth said:
Storms and flooding will continue to get worse. The IPCC and the National Academy of Science aren't conclusive about the numbers of storms, but they do both say that the intensity will be greater.
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When the water cannot absorb into the soil, it collects on top of the concrete and asphalt.
 
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