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41% school dropout rate. 0% Death Rate

Thoreau72 said:
No, not on a whim. It was a deliberate and planned event. That CARES was started in the House a year prior shows that. Somebody in government had knowledge of events to come. Not the first time such a thing has happened in recent history.

All Info - H.R.748 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): CARES Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
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Oh for **** sakes man, you sound like a lunatic. When it was originally introduced, it had nothing to do with Covid-19, it was originally the Middle Class Health Benefits Tax Repeal Act of 2019.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Oh for **** sakes man, you sound like a lunatic.
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Thank you.

In a time of universal deception, when a well-packaged web of lies has been sold to the masses, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
 
Casper said:
Maybe their parents should do their job and raise their kids, you know personal responsibility.
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Most of us are working 70+ hours per week so the rest of America can go on eating.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Thank you.

In a time of universal deception, when a well-packaged web of lies has been sold to the masses, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
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Or, it could just be that there is no "universal deception", and those in the public sector that are working to curb the impact of this pandemic are not engaged in anything nefarious, but rather are just trying to do their jobs, thus those that claim a "universal deception", sound like raving lunatics.
 
Casper said:
Here in DFW, the schools provided laptops and internet service for the kids. You were saying.
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And live in day care? Is that provided? Someone to keep an eye on my 9 year old?

No?

You mean, I have to send my children to a public day care service, full of other kids whose parents are in the same boat as me?

Kinda the same situation as we would have with public school, you mean?
 
ClaraD said:
What we see is the effect of how many people should not have children. They don't want to parent their children....and that includes schooling them if need be...
People have gotten lazy, just dropping the kids at school and leaving them to their own devices after school and with homework. I was taught to write in cursive, I was taught the alphabet, I was taught to do basic math addition and subtraction before I ever started first grade...by my parents.
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And now you sound like a republican, lol.
 
KevinKohler said:
And live in day care? Is that provided? Someone to keep an eye on my 9 year old?

No?

You mean, I have to send my children to a public day care service, full of other kids whose parents are in the same boat as me?

Kinda the same situation as we would have with public school, you mean?
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So to you the schools should be your daycare for your children, now we know your motive, nevermind that it could cause your child's death or yours....
 
joko104 said:
It's been a while, but I used to post my opinion that the USA is one of the most anti-children societies to ever exist. Maybe that is an effect of children can't vote in the ME! ME! ME! American society.

Or maybe it is because most adults now live for the secular religion of the super rich - consumerism and the accumulation of possessions as the goal of life - Chinese slave labor sweatshop made possessions.
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Why do you hate children?
 
We decided not to send our kids to school even if ordered to do so.

We've always thought about home schooling, so were going to do that instead.


I don't fault any parent who doesn't trust the states based on the state's management of COVID-19.
 
Casper said:
So to you the schools should be your daycare for your children, now we know your motive, nevermind that it could cause your child's death or yours....
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Millions of kids are already in day care centers, in similar or worse conditions than would be found in public schools.

So, if my choices are, the boys and girls club while my wife and I are at work...with people who aren't professional educators...vs public school, with professional educators...

Can you provide a rational reason why they shouldn't be allowed to attend school?

I mean, honestly, just what do you think happens to all the kids of essential workers? Think of the hundreds of grocery workers, distribution centers, drivers, hardware stores, etc. Jesus, man, one Home Depot employs 150 hourly employees. Is it your opinion all of them should be childless?
 
Using the term "virtual dropout rate" is cringe worthy, because it is decidedly not a dropout and not showing up to class already has a term.
 
swing_voter said:
We decided not to send our kids to school even if ordered to do so.

We've always thought about home schooling, so were going to do that instead.


I don't fault any parent who doesn't trust the states based on the state's management of COVID-19.
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I'm glad that's an option for you.

That's not an option for a great many people.
 
Casper said:
And as we speak the head of education is saying that we may or may not be able to open schools or have sports. We shall what they end up doing but from the trends it looks very doubtful we can keep opening since the only way to get a handle on the virus is the SD. My guess is Abbott is going to have to get tough on those that refuse to follow safety guidelines and those that refuse to enforce it. Austin just made it a fine of up to $2000 to not wear a mask, and they will enforce it, count on this happening across the State
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Yes, Austin is controlled by radical white progressive-fascist Democrats. Masks spread viruses and bacteria and harm or kill the wearer. As I predicted, the Democrats in government are proceeding to order people agree to be killed and to kill others under threat of criminal prosecution if they do not.
 
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What if...? said:
Isn't it a 41% truancy rate?

Kids are required by law to attend class.

And they know exactly who isn't participating. Send the truant officer. Give the parents a ticket.

What's wrong with addressing truancy the way we always have?
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Yeah, this is exactly the wrong way to do things. We spent a great deal of energy trying to temper those feelings among a small number state agency officials (including, for a brief moment, my state superintendent) this spring. And we're still working with them on this (of course, it's feeling stale until planning really kicks off).

The pandemic caused societal stress in several directions and put far more pressures on students and parents alike. Pulling the truancy card only increases the likelihood for breaking up families and furthering the school-to-prison pipeline. What use does that serve and what possible justification do we have in spreading misery during a once-in-a-century pandemic?

You're not going to get a "normal" school year during a pandemic. You're just not.

Here's what we taught state officials: just as you agree teachers need grace, families also deserve grace.
 
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KevinKohler said:
Millions of kids are already in day care centers, in similar or worse conditions than would be found in public schools.

So, if my choices are, the boys and girls club while my wife and I are at work...with people who aren't professional educators...vs public school, with professional educators...

Can you provide a rational reason why they shouldn't be allowed to attend school?

I mean, honestly, just what do you think happens to all the kids of essential workers? Think of the hundreds of grocery workers, distribution centers, drivers, hardware stores, etc. Jesus, man, one Home Depot employs 150 hourly employees. Is it your opinion all of them should be childless?
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As I have stated, the United States is one of the most anti-children societies to ever exist.

The government shuts down the schools saying 14 year olds should self discipline to be at a computer doing school work for 6 hours a day. If the kid doesn't do it the response it that proves that child should have been aborted because of how rotten the parents are.

This is how sadistic and anti-children progressive-fascist Democrats are. On another thread, there is a video of a white man pretending to be black screaming into the ears of 3 little children with a megaphone from 4 feet - known to cause permanent hearing lose and even permanent deafness - because the other was taking them to a church he doesn't like. Every progressive Democrat on that thread was fine with attacking children like that - and yes, some to blame the mother for the attack on her children.

Most Democratic progressives HATE children and more hate women who have children. In their view, women - like everyone - should accept their purpose of existence is to serve corporations and government - not children. There is no women many progressives hate more than "housewives" raising raising her children."
 
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joko104 said:
On NPR I heard a Democratic politician ranting that Florida schools should not reopen "until every single person is tested." Interpretation: No, education is irrelevant for children and their future.

Teen drop out rate with virtual schooling: 41% - never attended 1 online class.

Coronavirus: 4 In 10 U.S. Teens Report Not Doing Online Learning : Coronavirus Live Updates : NPR

In California the death rate of school age kids from covid-19 is ZERO.

COVID-19 Cases by Age Group

NONE of you ranting that the USA and schools should stay shut down week after month after month after month after month after month - should NEVER talk about educating children again since you all completely don't give a damn about education and have no problem destroying millions of American kids lives.
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So your solution is to send kids back to school during a pandemic and not that parents should take some responsibility for their kids? A lot of families successfully have teens do online learning, maybe they should reach out for some support. I'd say this is parents dropping the ball.

If Trump would have done a better job and encouraged states to do their best during the COVID response this would be a non-issue. Instead, you are blaming the victims, and suggesting their only alternative is to further the spread of this virus to school staff and students' families.

Not a great solution, but inline with Trump which is what I think is your point. Selling Trump's bs like Amway.
 
Ginger Ale said:
So your solution is to send kids back to school during a pandemic and not that parents should take some responsibility for their kids? A lot of families successfully have teens do online learning, maybe they should reach out for some support. I'd say this is parents dropping the ball.

If Trump would have done a better job and encouraged states to do their best during the COVID response this would be a non-issue. Instead, you are blaming the victims, and suggesting their only alternative is to further the spread of this virus to school staff and students' families.

Not a great solution, but inline with Trump which is what I think is your point. Selling Trump's bs like Amway.
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Mom and/or Dad is expected to work at the same time as ensure that their child(ren) is doing their school work and serve as school aide. Mom and/or Dad is worried about whether or not they will be able to work or maintain their employment and are worried about the health of their family members and peers, not to mention their own health. As a result, they also have mental health concerns developing, if not real concerns surrounding their physical health brought by the pandemic. Meanwhile the child(ren) are stressed and are dealing with the mental health fallout of being worried about the health of their family members and/or their peers.

Mom and/or Dad aren't dropping the ball. It's a pandemic.
 
Casper said:
And as we speak the head of education is saying that we may or may not be able to open schools or have sports. We shall what they end up doing but from the trends it looks very doubtful we can keep opening since the only way to get a handle on the virus is the SD. My guess is Abbott is going to have to get tough on those that refuse to follow safety guidelines and those that refuse to enforce it. Austin just made it a fine of up to $2000 to not wear a mask, and they will enforce it, count on this happening across the State
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Parts of that mask rule (law?) are extremely difficult and thus unlikely to be enforced:

Pumping gas


Outside and six feet of social distancing cannot be consistently maintained between the person and individuals outside of their household
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Any place on a typical public sidewalk (or pathway) is apt to allow another person to (potentially) get within six feet of you. Why they added "pumping gas" has yet to be explained, but I suspect that will not be enforced.

You and Your Family | AustinTexas.gov
 
Geoist said:
Then stop comparing public schools to private schools.
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Why should I do that? Because OMG no one dare speak a word against the current public school system? Only 15 to 20% of public school money is spent on anything but benefits and salaries, with a huge share for administrators - many on 6 figure salaries - rather than teachers. No one dare question "teaching only for the tests." No one dare question eliminating civics classes, history classes, life skills classes - for PC sociological propaganda classes. No one dare question the lack of discipline of student.

The cost per student of most private schools is little more, the same or less than the cost per student of public schools. It isn't about money. Never has been. Lost to most Democrats, it is about educating students. Democrats protest for pay increases. They do not protest for better education for students.
 
swing_voter said:
We decided not to send our kids to school even if ordered to do so.

We've always thought about home schooling, so were going to do that instead.


I don't fault any parent who doesn't trust the states based on the state's management of COVID-19.
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If our kids were of elementary school age...we'd be trying homeschooling too.

But they're not. And while I know of several very good local home-schooling co-ops, they too tend to run thin at/in the middle/high years and lean too heavily on the religious side of things. I could probably handle much of the core subject materials (even up to higher math like Calc and physical sciences like Earth and Physics) but would struggle with some of the softer sciences (Bio and Chem...and all the labs we feel are important aspects to those subjects).

And, I already have a full-time paying job (that pays taxes that pays for our teachers). If the school system offered a voucher to either compensate some of the salary I'd be losing...or to hire a tutor to fill in a gap, it's something that might tip us in that direction. [I realize vouchers are a whole 'nother discussion but I'll just say I have some very firm ideas about why and how they should be done and, mind you, I'm a huge proponent of public education.]

Yes, we are their parents and they are very much our responsibility. But the reality is the heretofore past model of public education influenced career decisions that aren't easily undone, certainly not at the drop of an Executive Order Edict. Bills gotta get paid.

And our school system is severely dragging their feet on what plans they are making and it's making our jobs as parents that much more difficult to make plans of our own (even if it is the decision to home school).

Good luck, Swing, with that endeavor and I mean that most sincerely. Homeschooling is, without doubt, tougher than just parenting. We have good kids but even they reach the point where they don't wanna learn from Mom and Dad (even if, sometimes months or years later, they realize that, hey, we did know what we were talking about and trying to teach them).
 
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