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Children Going Back To School This Fall

d0gbreath said:
I don't know what to do. Seemingly, no one else does either. When all of the students go back to school, the virus is going to bloom to epic proportions. I'm pretty sure of that.
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My niece is a collage professor in Michigan.

They are opening with in class instruction this fall.

Both staff and students will be required to wear masks in the class room.
Classes are to fill one row social distancing, then the next row.

She said she will be surprised if they close in class instruction by mid Oct. due to the spread of Covid. 19.

Only time will tell.
 
upsideguy said:
It has? If that is your assertion, let's see the evidence. I ran a Google search of "children are not silent spreaders"..... I came up with ONE British Medical Article that seems to agree with one, only one..... everything else on the search "not silent spreaders" said they very much are, and could be reasonable for as much as 1/2 of the existing cases. One article of many is not a debunking.... so, if you wish to make the assertion that it has been debunked, kindly produce compelling proof that is so (or we can assume its not, as it defies conventional wisdom and general sense of how viruses get spread).

Children are not silent spreaders - Google Search

Hundreds of school children killed pales in comparison to the deadly impact of this virus, so no you first statement is far from true.

I think you have your head in the sand as to seriousness of this pandemic.
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How many kids without underlying health conditions have contracted COVID at school and died as a result?
 
VySky said:
Let me connect the dots. Parent HAS TO STAY HOME from work because kids can’t go to school. Then in comes Federal $$$$ (cheese) like last time to stay home. Wow, a blind man can see that connection
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Actually after much research I cannot find an example of a parent who received federal momey to stay home with their school age child when schools closed because of a Covid 19 Shut down.

Please post an example otherwise admit you were mistaken.
 
upsideguy said:
everything else on the search "not silent spreaders" said they very much are, and could be reasonable for as much as 1/2 of the existing cases.
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Can you post the article making such a claim? The CDC director just said 30 minutes ago that there is no evidence that children are driving transmission, much less "1/2 of the existing cases".
 
Taylor said:
How many kids without underlying health conditions have contracted COVID at school and died as a result?
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Nice way to change the subject .
The question under consideration was can children be silent carriers of Covid 19 and infect adults including teachers, staff, parents, etc.
 
 
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swing_voter said:
Our kids have all tested positive for the virus, so hopefully, that means they're immune.
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I hope they are but there appears to be no agreement among people who know, medical and research professionals, as to whether there is immunity or not, and if so for how long. It is simply way too early to know what long term ramifications might be for people who have had it. There are many unknown factors. Medical professionals are beginning to see issues in some adults 100 days or more after they survived the virus.

Children are a different ball game. I don't know that they have done any studies on children who have survived COVID-19. It's going to take awhile. Because they are still developing there could be effects that lag behind and/or go undetected until a child exhibits learning or behavioral issues. We might not know for a year or two after a flurry of diagnostic testing of school aged children across the country.

It's early yet.
 
JANFU said:
Not for low income who do not have access to I pads/laptops.
A good number do not have internet access or have limited data prepaid, data cost overage is expensive and teaching online well exceeds the data prepaid limits

Teaching this way is simply not affordable for far to many.

States have lost significant revenues, and education will be cut just as Police & city workers are due to budget cuts.

Single parent, works, 8 year old- and that is not unusual
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Spectrum is giving the lowest income households (or was, during the last few months) with school children the lowest tier internet services for free. Most school districts in my state (all around me) have allowed kids to check out tablets owned by the schools for use to do schoolwork.

Spectrum.net

I could see this program extending and/or others offering similar if the new school year looks like many schooling from home at least partially.

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Logician Man said:
I agree, unfortunately. Let's just hope for the best. Children are any society's most valuable commodity. Always have been, always will be.
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This virtual learning is a disaster. Can you imagine keeping the attention of 20 seven year olds for six hours on a video screen? This risks to children are much less than regular flu. They need to go back to school.
 
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My state has been looking at the options. A popular one seems to be splitting up the children into 3 groups so they get classroom time once every 3 weeks, with their group/teacher, and the other 2 weeks online.

I think this would be better than how the end of last year was and a decent compromise. I need more info though on specifics since one of my sons has an IEP and special teacher.

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minnie616 said:
New Studies Add to Evidence that Children May Transmit the Coronavirus - The New York Times

'Silent spreaders' may be responsible for half of U.S. COVID-19 cases, study finds | CTV News

'Silent spreaders': Almost a third of infected kids under 9 are asymptomatic | The Times of Israel

COVID-19 cases among Minnesota children and young people surged in June
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I know of a child who died. A friend of mine from high school had a child in her sons class die about a month ago from covid. Even at a 0.5% death rate (not sure if that high, but likely still significant) many schools except for those in the most rural areas would still likely lose at least a child to this if we open too soon.

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Rawley said:
This virtual learning is a disaster. Can you imagine keeping the attention of 20 seven year olds for six hours on a video screen? This risks to children are much less and regular flu. They need to go back to school.
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You state that unequivocally? Show us your information. Links please so that we too can know the facts you know.
 
avatar said:
Sure. You go to the ABC article, read down to about the second paragraph and click on the words "a new study" in blue. OK?
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A source is the source, not interested in the opinion associated with it. Look at studies and find one that says just read the article to find the source...I guess that worked last at Trump University.
 
I've already talked about the problems with young kids wearing masks all day in another group. A coworker of mine brought up another problem --- the water fountains. I cannot tell you how many kids I see putting their mouths on the spigot of the water fountain and then their friend behind him does it too. :2sick1:
 
ReubenSherr said:
Or...the opposite...

Democrats need schools closed, so parents can't go to work, the economy can bottom out, and everyone can vote Biden out of frustration

I'd go with the second statement ;)

BTW how are elementary students learning to read and write remotely? That's insane
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Since 45 said it, your retort is nonsensical. Your last question...maybe the parents?
 
Josie said:
I've already talked about the problems with young kids wearing masks all day in another group. A coworker of mine brought up another problem --- the water fountains. I cannot tell you how many kids I see putting their mouths on the spigot of the water fountain and then their friend behind him does it too. :2sick1:
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Send kids to school with water bottles. We've been doing that for our kids for years because I want them to stay hydrated.

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minnie616 said:
Nice way to change the subject .
The question under consideration was can children be silent carriers of Covid 19 and infect adults including teachers, staff, parents, etc.
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That discussion came after.
 
roguenuke said:
Send kids to school with water bottles. We've been doing that for our kids for years because I want them to stay hydrated.

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Yes, that does work for kids who have parents like you who actually care.
 
Taylor said:
In our county, parents are given the choice of sending kids back to traditional school or committing to an entire semester of virtual school. Thus far it's about 60/40, which means the classrooms will only be partially filled, and households with health concerns can keep kids at home. Seems like a workable balance if the system has the resources to split things up that way.
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Who's going to teach the distance learners if the classroom teachers have students in the classroom?
 
Just listened to a report on the “news.” It asked, “if the professional sports leagues, with near infinite resources, can’t figure out how to open, what chance do schools in the US have?”
 
Chomsky said:
My kids all went to Catholic Schools. I trust them and their judgement. Ditto for my governor.

As to Trump ordering the kids go back to school - what's his plan? I haven't heard it.
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Based on his record of decision making this pandemic, why would anyone follow this suggestion, it is so clearly tied to his dream of a 3rd qtr economic boom?
 
mrjurrs said:
Who's going to teach the distance learners if the classroom teachers have students in the classroom?
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Separate teachers with much larger classes.
 
charliebrown said:
I have grandchildren and their parents are sending them back to daycare and school. They cannot continue sitting around waiting for an absolute solution to this problem. They have and will continue to follow CDC guidelines for protection of others. Their children are learning how to wear a masks.
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45 just called the CDC guidelines 'too restrictive', so they are going to come back w/different guidance in a few days. Please be careful.
 
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