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Corvid is man made, now it's official.

ecofarm said:
I'm correct.

We know, 100%, the virus is not genetically modified. I'm also correct that no gene splice has ever or will ever include genes from the same species; this is for a number of reasons, not the least of which is it would have no effect. Adding additional gene sequences from the same species does not result in expression.
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?? Only the first sentence in the 2nd para is correct. The 2 sentences after that basically say the same thing and are not. Adding other procedural terms instead of 'genetic modification' isnt really effective for communication here.

But those are also not relevant to this particular thread.



This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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ArtemisBarca said:
Same part of China....

It could just be that region has been crazy populated for thousands of years leading to far more dice rolls in the “crazy pandemic” lottery..

Also is it man-made or over blown???

If it is man made then it is a very bad job.. I mean 1.3%... weak sauce for engineered if you ask me..


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Most of the cities of China and India would qualify for those criteria. It got pangolin DNA in it and is not transmittable in an outside situation but is fully formed for human to human transmittion. It is clearly very very unlikely man made then you add in the location and the fact that the CCP will not allow inspection. Then add in the intelligence reports saying they did it.
 
ecofarm said:
I'm correct.

We know, 100%, the virus is not genetically modified. I'm also correct that no gene splice has ever or will ever include genes from the same species; this is for a number of reasons, not the least of which is it would have no effect. Adding additional gene sequences from the same species does not result in expression.
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LOL.

Try these guys, they have actual real biology degrees;

YouTube
 
Tim the plumber said:
Most of the cities of China and India would qualify for those criteria. It got pangolin DNA in it and is not transmittable in an outside situation but is fully formed for human to human transmittion. It is clearly very very unlikely man made then you add in the location and the fact that the CCP will not allow inspection. Then add in the intelligence reports saying they did it.
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BWAHAHAHAHA

I bet you have a close personal friend who cured cancer but that damn medical industry won’t use it?!?! “

Lol


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Tim the plumber said:
Coronavirus IS man-made,says ex-head of MI6 Sir Richard Dearlove | Daily Mail Online



Well, we all knew it already no matter what the MSM had been telling us.
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The Daily Mail; a newspaper so replete with lies, fabrication and distortion of the truth that an entire website is dedicated to exposing it.

Home - Mailwatch Forum

Daily Mail - RationalWiki

Wikipedia bans Daily Mail as 'unreliable' source | Technology | The Guardian

10 Egregiously False Stories In The 'Daily Mail' - Listverse

You'll get more truth from Mad magazine than that reactionary and sensationalist right-wing tabloid. I wouldn't wipe my arse with it.
 
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Tim the plumber said:
Most of the cities of China and India would qualify for those criteria. It got pangolin DNA in it and is not transmittable in an outside situation but is fully formed for human to human transmittion. It is clearly very very unlikely man made then you add in the location and the fact that the CCP will not allow inspection. Then add in the intelligence reports saying they did it.
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Yes, conspiracy nutjobs will believe anything they read in the Daily Fail.
 
Tim the plumber said:
Most of the cities of China and India would qualify for those criteria. It got pangolin DNA in it and is not transmittable in an outside situation but is fully formed for human to human transmittion. It is clearly very very unlikely man made then you add in the location and the fact that the CCP will not allow inspection. Then add in the intelligence reports saying they did it.
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The virus has pangolin DNA in it??? :doh




This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Tim the plumber said:
Coronavirus: Pangolins may have spread the disease to humans

Tim the plumber said:
Most of the cities of China and India would qualify for those criteria. It got pangolin DNA in it and is not transmittable in an outside situation but is fully formed for human to human transmittion. It is clearly very very unlikely man made then you add in the location and the fact that the CCP will not allow inspection. Then add in the intelligence reports saying they did it.
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Coronavirus: From bats to pangolins, how do viruses reach us? | Science| In-depth reporting on science and technology | DW | 26.03.2020

Yes.

Odd that eh?
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And show me the quotes where they say that the virus has pangolin DNA? :doh




This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Tim the plumber said:
Each link has it in very very clearly.
Tim the plumber said:
Most of the cities of China and India would qualify for those criteria. It got pangolin DNA in it and is not transmittable in an outside situation but is fully formed for human to human transmittion. It is clearly very very unlikely man made then you add in the location and the fact that the CCP will not allow inspection. Then add in the intelligence reports saying they did it.
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I have lead you to water but I will not do more.
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Nope. They dont say that.

And there you were, criticizing Eco and I about "our" understanding of viral genetics :doh



Tim the plumber said:
Most of the cities of China and India would qualify for those criteria. It got pangolin DNA in it and is not transmittable in an outside situation but is fully formed for human to human transmittion. It is clearly very very unlikely man made then you add in the location and the fact that the CCP will not allow inspection. Then add in the intelligence reports saying they did it.
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Checkerboard Strangler said:
More than a little bit confusing, as coronavirii have existed on Earth since there was an Earth.
Is it possible this particular virus was manipulated or modified?

Yes, absolutely. A virus "gain function study" can be implemented to study the various ways that a virus might mutate and thus gain function studies are crucial to our understanding of how they work and what they are capable of.

But even if we were to accept Daily Mail 100%, it does not change the fact that the United States dissolved a global pandemic response team that had been put in place specifically in the event that an accidental OR EVEN DELIBERATE virus release happens, handicapping our ability to meet the challenge, and Trump's refusal to do more in a prompt and decisive manner further crippled our ability to mitigate the situation, so instead of a response that matched or surpassed South Korea, we reacted like a bankrupted failed third world kleptocracy.

But you go right ahead and enjoy your conspiracy theory and don't forget, it was Joe Biden, Hillary, Obama and George Soros who did it to us, and they did it from Ukraine in order to hurt Trump! :lamo
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We should not forget that in England, the response was bungled by Boris Johnson. The idiot in Brazil also has a lot to answer for.
 
Tim the plumber said:
YouTube

Try these guys, both professors of biology.

Somewhat famous.
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Do they say that CV19 has pangolin DNA in it?

If your sources said it, quote it. You claimed they did. I read...they didnt. I'm not wasting my time on your video.



Tim the plumber said:
Most of the cities of China and India would qualify for those criteria. It got pangolin DNA in it and is not transmittable in an outside situation but is fully formed for human to human transmittion. It is clearly very very unlikely man made then you add in the location and the fact that the CCP will not allow inspection. Then add in the intelligence reports saying they did it.
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Lursa said:
Do they say that CV19 has pangolin DNA in it?

If your sources said it, quote it. You claimed they did. I read...they didnt. I'm not wasting my time on your video.
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Yes, not sure if it is that particular video. But they are very informative.
 
marke said:
All the facts have been leading to this obvious conclusion from the beginning. But the liars in world leadership positions feel they have to lie about it because the truth exposes something stupid or incompetent about themselves and they want to keep the truth suppressed for that reason.
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What "facts"? Those you choose to believe because they suit your political agenda, or the truth?
 
Tim the plumber said:
Yes, not sure if it is that particular video. But they are very informative.
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Who cares? You didnt seem to understand it if you believe that CV19 contains animal DNA. You should keep educating yourself before making claims based on limited understanding.




This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Tim the plumber said:

I doubt that the Chineese would deliberately release it 200m away from the lab. It has all the signs of the usual accidental bodge. Something easy to do when you are playing with this sort of thing.
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If the US and Israel would introduce the Stuxnet virus into the enemy Iran, I reckon they would have no problems introducing Covid there also.

They are wicked people, those who introduced this biological warfare upon the world, though likely the population density of the human species is becoming excessive.
 
Lursa said:
Who cares? You didnt seem to understand it if you believe that CV19 contains animal DNA. You should keep educating yourself before making claims based on limited understanding.
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The virus that causes COVID-19 is made of RNA & protein & some lipids. No DNA.
 
'Man-made SARS-CoV-2' is fake news promulgated by the Trumpians to throw mud at China.

The genome of this virus is far too complex to be cobbled together in a lab. See attached map. And this is just the RNA genome. To construct an infectious virus you need the S, M & N proteins arranged in a lipid sphere. No problem for nature in bats. Big problem for scientists in a lab.

SARS-CoV-2 genome map.jpg

SARS-CoV-2 genome map-2.jpg
 
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Thoreau72 said:
If the US and Israel would introduce the Stuxnet virus into the enemy Iran, I reckon they would have no problems introducing Covid there also.

They are wicked people, those who introduced this biological warfare upon the world, though likely the population density of the human species is becoming excessive.
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What??

A computer virus is not the same as a biological virus.

Especially a computer virus which targeted machinery used to process uranium into plutonium.

The population of the earth has not trouble with resources of all sorts, at least they are all more abundant than ever. What are you talking about.
 
Another SARS-CoV-2 genome map:

SARS-CoV-2 genome map-3.jpg

The 3 genome maps shown use different nomenclature for the different pieces of the virus' genome. For info, the one on the left side of the 3rd map marked 'nsp1' is the one that binds to ribosomes & prevents the production of host proteins such as antibodies against the virus but allows for the production of 29+ viral proteins
 
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