Trump’s Aggressive Advocacy of Malaria Drug for Treating Coronavirus Divides Medical Community

[JacksinPA]

Trump’s Aggressive Advocacy of Malaria Drug for Treating Coronavirus Divides Medical Community - The New York Times

While Dr. Anthony Fauci has urged caution in using hydroxychloroquine, some doctors are prescribing it to patients who have the virus despite the fact it has never been tested for it.

WASHINGTON — President Trump made a rare appearance in the Situation Room on Sunday as his pandemic task force was meeting, determined to talk about the anti-malaria medicine that he has aggressively promoted lately as a treatment for the coronavirus.

Once again, according to a person briefed on the session, the experts warned against overselling a drug yet to be proved a safe remedy, particularly for heart patients. “Yes, the heart stuff,” Mr. Trump acknowledged. Then he headed out to the cameras to promote it anyway. “So what do I know?” he conceded to reporters at his daily briefing. “I’m not a doctor. But I have common sense.”
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Common sense? Bankrupt casinos through mismanagement? Trump University? A financial stake in HC's producer?

 

[trixare4kids]

Trump’s Aggressive Advocacy of Malaria Drug for Treating Coronavirus Divides Medical Community - The New York Times

While Dr. Anthony Fauci has urged caution in using hydroxychloroquine, some doctors are prescribing it to patients who have the virus despite the fact it has never been tested for it.

WASHINGTON — President Trump made a rare appearance in the Situation Room on Sunday as his pandemic task force was meeting, determined to talk about the anti-malaria medicine that he has aggressively promoted lately as a treatment for the coronavirus.

Once again, according to a person briefed on the session, the experts warned against overselling a drug yet to be proved a safe remedy, particularly for heart patients. “Yes, the heart stuff,” Mr. Trump acknowledged. Then he headed out to the cameras to promote it anyway. “So what do I know?” he conceded to reporters at his daily briefing. “I’m not a doctor. But I have common sense.”
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Common sense? Bankrupt casinos through mismanagement? Trump University? A financial stake ion HC's producer?

Yeah, common sense. Ever heard of it?
From your article:
“I certainly understand why the president is pushing it,” said Dr. Joshua Rosenberg, a critical care at Brooklyn Hospital Center. “He’s the president of the United States. He has to project hope. And when you are in a situation without hope, things go very badly. So I’m not faulting him for pushing it even if there isn’t a lot of science behind it, because it is, at this point, the best, most available option for use.”

 

[ttwtt78640]

Trump’s Aggressive Advocacy of Malaria Drug for Treating Coronavirus Divides Medical Community - The New York Times

While Dr. Anthony Fauci has urged caution in using hydroxychloroquine, some doctors are prescribing it to patients who have the virus despite the fact it has never been tested for it.

WASHINGTON — President Trump made a rare appearance in the Situation Room on Sunday as his pandemic task force was meeting, determined to talk about the anti-malaria medicine that he has aggressively promoted lately as a treatment for the coronavirus.

Once again, according to a person briefed on the session, the experts warned against overselling a drug yet to be proved a safe remedy, particularly for heart patients. “Yes, the heart stuff,” Mr. Trump acknowledged. Then he headed out to the cameras to promote it anyway. “So what do I know?” he conceded to reporters at his daily briefing. “I’m not a doctor. But I have common sense.”
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Common sense? Bankrupt casinos through mismanagement? Trump University? A financial stake ion HC's producer?

You seem to be suggesting (implying?) that US doctors are prescribing drugs "off label" based on Trump's medical advice. Of course, not presenting any evidence of that begs us to prove a negative.

 

[Cardinal]

The only reason this treatment is being considered at all is because Trump and Fox News are pushing for it 24/7. You'd have to be insane to take hydroxychloroquine under those circumstances. I understand that if you're deathly ill you'll consider just about any option that lands in your lap, and that's the problem. It's pushing desperate people to adopt a treatment that's only considered because of Trump. It's a recipe for disaster.

 

[JacksinPA]

You seem to be suggesting (implying?) that US doctors are prescribing drugs "off label" based on Trump's medical advice. Of course, not presenting any evidence of that begs us to prove a negative.

A couple of gay men who survived COVID-19 were interviewed on TV last night. They both stated that they had been given hydroxychloroquine but had noticed no change in their conditions.

 

[Metric Mouse]

The only reason this treatment is being considered at all is because Trump and Fox News are pushing for it 24/7. You'd have to be insane to take hydroxychloroquine. I understand that if you're deathly ill you'll consider just about any option that lands in your lap, and that's the problem. It's pushing desperate people to adopt a treatment that's only considered because of Trump. It's a recipe for disaster.

Absolutely. That Trump bootlicker Andrew Cuomo has his state doing a testing trial with it. Literally killing desperate people to suck up to Trump. It's awful.

 

[Luce]

Absolutely. That Trump bootlicker Andrew Cuomo has his state doing a testing trial with it. Literally killing desperate people to suck up to Trump. It's awful.

Cuomo will have a financial angle for this.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Cuomo will have a financial angle for this.

I didn't think of that. Chilling.

 

[jamesbyoung]

Stop the right wing con.

Very few doctors back Trump is the truth of the matter.

 

[Cardinal]

Absolutely. That Trump bootlicker Andrew Cuomo has his state doing a testing trial with it. Literally killing desperate people to suck up to Trump. It's awful.

Doesn't change anything I said.

 

[ttwtt78640]

A couple of gay men who survived COVID-19 were interviewed on TV last night. They both stated that they had been given hydroxychloroquine but had noticed no change in their conditions.

OK, but what does that have to do with Trump or doctors? It also seems rather silly to say that surviving COVID-19, after seeking and receiving medical treatment for it, did not involve a change in their conditions. You seem willing offer medical advice based on what was said by a couple of gay men "as seen on TV" - what makes that OK, but Trump wrong for doing something very similar (if not identical)?

 

[Metric Mouse]

Doesn't change anything I said.

Of course not. It fact, it makes it worse when people back Trump on stuff like this.

 

[Cardinal]

Of course not. It fact, it makes it worse when people back Trump on stuff like this.

Well, I suppose I could wrap my head around why you might think that people getting scammed could be considered worse than the person doing the scamming. Personally, I think the scammer is worse.

 

[Luce]

I didn't think of that. Chilling.

Always

Follow

The

Money.

 

[apdst]

The only reason this treatment is being considered at all is because Trump and Fox News are pushing for it 24/7. You'd have to be insane to take hydroxychloroquine under those circumstances. I understand that if you're deathly ill you'll consider just about any option that lands in your lap, and that's the problem. It's pushing desperate people to adopt a treatment that's only considered because of Trump. It's a recipe for disaster.

Are you saying all our doctors are too stupid to make informed decisions when administering drugs to their patients? :lamo

 

[apdst]

Absolutely. That Trump bootlicker Andrew Cuomo has his state doing a testing trial with it. Literally killing desperate people to suck up to Trump. It's awful.

You got a link for that?

 

[Metric Mouse]

Well, I suppose I could wrap my head around why you might think that people getting scammed could be considered worse than the person doing the scamming. Personally, I think the scammer is worse.

I guess I don't believe for a second that Cuomo believes this will work. That would put him in the scammer category.

I could be wrong, and then I'm torn; is it worse that someone like Trump is the way he is and always has been, or is it worse when someone like Cuomo slurps up everything someone like Trump puts out? It's not as if Trump is some super slick conman who has fooled everyone; his charms just seem to work on a certain type of person.

 

[ttwtt78640]

The only reason this treatment is being considered at all is because Trump and Fox News are pushing for it 24/7. You'd have to be insane to take hydroxychloroquine under those circumstances. I understand that if you're deathly ill you'll consider just about any option that lands in your lap, and that's the problem. It's pushing desperate people to adopt a treatment that's only considered because of Trump. It's a recipe for disaster.

Hmm... that (bolded above) might not have applied to doctors in France or China (before Trump even mentioned it) - but that's just a SWAG.

 

[Good4Nothin]

A couple of gay men who survived COVID-19 were interviewed on TV last night. They both stated that they had been given hydroxychloroquine but had noticed no change in their conditions.

It is really too bad the American public, in general, knows nothing whatsoever about how medical treatments, or anything else, are studied scientifically.

 

[Cardinal]

I guess I don't believe for a second that Cuomo believes this will work. That would put him in the scammer category.

I could be wrong, and then I'm torn; is it worse that someone like Trump is the way he is and always has been, or is it worse when someone like Cuomo slurps up everything someone like Trump puts out? It's not as if Trump is some super slick conman who has fooled everyone; his charms just seem to work on a certain type of person.

By that logic, the people getting scammed in Trump University were, in fact, the scammers.

Interesting logic.

 

[Metric Mouse]

You got a link for that?

That people have died from ingestion of these anti malarial drugs?

Nigeria records chloroquine poisoning after Trump endorses drug for coronavirus treatment

 

[Cardinal]

Hmm... that (bolded above) might not have applied to doctors in France or China (before Trump even mentioned it) - but that's just a SWAG.

This is going to be another Trump U.

 

[apdst]

That people have died from ingestion of these anti malarial drugs?

Nigeria records chloroquine poisoning after Trump endorses drug for coronavirus treatment

Three people in Nigeria? :lamo

 

[Metric Mouse]

By that logic, the people getting scammed in Trump University were, in fact, the scammers.

Interesting logic.

No. Only if they knew that Trump U was a scam, and then pushed their friends to enroll just to please Trump. Like Cuomo knowing there is no medical evidence that these drugs work, but pushing a test in his state because it would please Trump.

Again, if Cuomo is somehow confused about the medical evidence, and somehow trusts Trump's "common sense" over medical professionals, then I am wrong and he is a victim as well. I just find that unlikely.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Three people in Nigeria? :lamo

They dead.