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Poll: 62% of Trump supporters say nothing he could do would change opinion

Vern said:
Sab, you're simply ignoring the facts. Your cult literally foamed at the mouth about deficits for 8 years and now you obediently sit quietly concerning deficits as your cult leaders balloon the deficit. That's literally a textbook example of a cult.
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Pot and kettle, if one is a cult so is the other.
 
Vern said:
But you sat quietly when republicans attacked Kerry. they can only do that when you don't hold them accountable.
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I think you misunderstood the point of my comment.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Hmmm... also from that same poll citation:

Poll: 62% of Trump supporters say nothing he could do would change opinion - Axios

Does this also make THOSE citizens a "cult?" :coffeepap:
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This is to compare apples and oranges. Nothing that Jack the Ripper, Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, etc. could ever do could ever convince me they were good guys. Their past actions remain, whatever actions they take in the future. None of this is to say that Trump is like Jack the Ripper, Hitler, or Stalin. Rather, it merely establishes a principle: some actions, once you take them, are never again washed away no matter what you do--and this is something we all at least implicitly acknowledge. Presumably you don't think that, were any of those individuals alive, there is anything they could do to convince you they should be received with open arms.

But the opposite principle does not hold. I may have been a model citizen for years, right up to the day I decide to go shoot up a school. And if I do something like that, people who once supported me ought to stop. I suspect that many who answered that question in the negative just weren't really thinking about possible things Trump might do. If Trump anally raped a particular supporter and then burned that supporter's family alive, would that supporter still support him? I doubt it.

Now whether Trump deserves to be in the category of someone who has crossed the line so badly they cannot come back into another person's esteem may be another question. However, Trump's opponents believe him to be an habitual serial liar who is likely also in bed with the Russian mob. Now, suppose you knew someone who was all of those things (someone--not Trump particularly). If you were convinced about them being a liar with Russian mob connections, how likely would you be to start trusting them, no matter what actions they appeared to take? Wouldn't you always worry that even if they seemed sincerely nice all of a sudden, they were playing some nefarious plot? That's what lying Russian mobsters do, after all...
 
rocket88 said:
Poll: 62% of Trump supporters say nothing he could do would change opinion - Axios

62% of people who approve of the job Donald Trump is doing as president say they can't think of anything he could do that would cause him to lose their support

Not a cult. Totally not a cult.
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apdst said:
You didn't notice Liberals attacking McCain's war record in 2008?

Some on left target McCain's war record - POLITICO
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I noticed the 'swiftboating" of Kerry in 2004...


"...During John Kerry's candidacy in the 2004 U.S. presidential campaign, a political issue that gained widespread public attention was Kerry's Vietnam War record. In television advertisements and a book called Unfit for Command, co-authored by John O'Neill and Jerome Corsi, the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT), a 527 group later known as the Swift Vets and POWs for Truth, questioned details of his military service record and circumstances relating to the award of his combat medals. Their campaign against Kerry's presidential bid received widespread publicity,[1] but was later discredited and gave rise to the neologism "swiftboating", to describe an unfair or untrue political attack.[2][3] Defenders of Kerry's service record, including former crewmates, stated that allegations made by SBVT were false.[4][5][6]

John Kerry military service controversy - Wikipedia​

Jerome Corsi...that name sure rings a bell. Aw yes, how could I forget...he's 'person 1' in Roger Stones indictment.
 
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PirateMk1 said:
So 45 million Americans are part of a cult?
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Yeah sure. Happens to large portions of populations all the time. A lot of the middle east is under the influence of a cult. Why not here?
 
Godless Liberals.
 
PirateMk1 said:
So 45 million Americans are part of a cult?
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Don't be so dismissive....a poll done in 2013 by Public Policy Polling says that 43,947,966 Americans believe Bigfoot exists and 12,556,562 of Americans believe that lizard people actually run the US government.
 
rocket88 said:
Poll: 62% of Trump supporters say nothing he could do would change opinion - Axios

62% of people who approve of the job Donald Trump is doing as president say they can't think of anything he could do that would cause him to lose their support

Not a cult. Totally not a cult.
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In fairness, it may be because his detractors have claimed he's a woman-raping, dictator-loving, election-rigging white supremacist Kremlin operative who's lied 75 million times, massacred Kurds, destroyed the US economy, locked migrant children in dog cages, doomed the planet to climate catastrophe, and personally inspired every mass shooting, police beating, and politically/racially-motivated act of violence that's occurred on Earth since August 2016.

That is, I don't think the 62% figure reflects the disinterest so much as it reflects the disbelieving. :coffeepap
 
Vern said:
wah wah wah. And besides being incredibly whiny, you're also a hypocrite. We don't have to lie to criticize poor widdle twump. You and yours lied non stop about President Obama. and your conservative masters used your ignorance to sabotage the recovery. Democrats wont undermine America for their political agenda. republicans have repeatedly.
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Yea you do you damn train for all the BS thrown about by the progressive nut jobs.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
If you support someone completely independent of their actions and there's nothing they could ever do to make you lose their support, yes, you're in a cult. If 45 million happens to be that number, then that's what it is.

He once joked about being able to murder someone on the street and he wouldn't lose supporters. We all laughed and shook our heads, but it turns out he was absolutely right. Most of you are so drunk on his kool-aid you would defend him, scream that it's all a lie, and start attacking the prosecutors and cops that try to bring him to justice.
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Check out post 89.
 
Sabre said:
You are quite loose with labeling people cultists. If committing yourself to a President makes you a member of a cult then you will have to admit that all those who idolized Obama, no matter what, were and are cultists.
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That's the point. Anyone who unquestioningly devotes all of her support and devotion to another person without regard to anything that person does is a cultist. I don't know how many Obama cultists there were or are, but the Trump cult is a unique phonomenon in recent American politics.
 
That's 28% we should be trying to reach out to with ardent fervor
 
HenryChinaski said:
If Trump called you personally and asked you to kick your dog while you're dressed in tutu, I'd wager that you would without question.
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Wait - my green tutu or my pink one?

I DO have standards, you know.

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COTO said:
In fairness, it may be because his detractors have claimed he's a woman-raping, dictator-loving, election-rigging white supremacist Kremlin operative who's lied 75 million times, massacred Kurds, destroyed the US economy, locked migrant children in dog cages, doomed the planet to climate catastrophe, and personally inspired every mass shooting, police beating, and politically/racially-motivated act of violence that's occurred on Earth since August 2016.

That is, I don't think the 62% figure reflects the disinterest so much as it reflects the disbelieving. :coffeepap
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3leftsdoo said:
:cheers:
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If you are going to drink antifreeze make sure it is the old kind made with ethylene glycol and not the new safer formula of polypropylene glycol that will only make you puke your guts out for 12 hours.

FYI.
 
PirateMk1 said:
So 45 million Americans are part of a cult?
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Claiming that Trump's supporters are cultist is all they basically have. It's not like they can fight him on policy, or actual facing up to his performance. So they have to keep taking low blows where they can find them.

Just pretend that they're salty that they lost a savior when Epstein died. At least with a good number of them, you'd be correct. But I consider it more like playing by their own rules.
 
Lisa said:
If you are going to drink antifreeze make sure it is the old kind made with ethylene glycol and not the new safer formula of polypropylene glycol that will only make you puke your guts out for 12 hours.

FYI.
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Yikes - back to the toaster/bathtub plan...
 
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