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A British family on vacation accidentally drove into the U.S. They’ve spent days detained with their

apdst said:
Can you provide evidence that it isn't true?
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That’s not how this works. An anonymous source made a claim that hasn’t been verified and it doesn’t pass the smell test. According to the family, they were not allowed to contact their embassy and were unable to do so until they eventually gained access to an attorney who then relayed their account to the embassy. That sounds more like ICE than a random and unverified claim that someone called a British consultate and no one answered the phone so they were just disappeared into detention. When have they ever called a consulate to take a detainee off their hands?
 
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chuckiechan said:
Unless the border is not marked, it’s not accidental.
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Actually the US/Canada border IS unmarked for most of its length.

chuckiechan said:
Next, what animal causes you to drive on another road into another country? Bigfoot?
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Having driven that stretch of Zero Avenue, that part of the story does give me pause. I cannot recall a single place where the roads on the Canadian and US sides of the border are so close (and without a ditch between them) that it is possible to "accidentally drive" from one to the other.

That means that


  1. IF the story about "accidentally driving" into the US is true, THEN the CBP officer didn't act in what I would consider to be a very appropriate manner (even if the manner was legally permissible); BUT
  2. IF the story about "accidentally driving" into the US is false, THEN
    • IF the conditions of detention were as the US government said they were THEN the people likely got what they deserved; but
    • IF the conditions of detention were as the detained people said they were THEN the US government should look at the conditions under which it detains people with a view to improving those conditions so that they are actually what the US government says they are (which doesn't mean that the people didn't get what they deserved).

chuckiechan said:
“We don’t need no stinking border”.
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<SARC>Of course we do. Without a border then Canada would be flooded by hundreds of thousands of hordes of Americans fleeing poverty and inner-city gang violence that the police are unable to contain (even though the police are allowed to shoot anyone they feel like shooting).</SARC>

PS - If anyone is actually interested, in the area where this incident is supposed to have occurred, the closest US roads to the US/Canada boundary (Garfield Street and Jones Road) are about 100 yards SOUTH of the border and the SOUTH side of Boundary Road is ditched.
 
Acadia said:
Their story is so far fetched that it's rather peculiar anyone would accept it at face value, ...
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A really quick "fact check" can be done simply by referring to GoogleMaps[sup]®[/sup] and taking a look at the area.

Once you have done that, you won't find that the story is "far fetched" at all - you will see that it is simply ludicrous.
 
Who hasn't driven for miles in the wrong direction because an animal ventured onto a road?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
A really quick "fact check" can be done simply by referring to GoogleMaps[sup]®[/sup] and taking a look at the area.

Once you have done that, you won't find that the story is "far fetched" at all - you will see that it is simply ludicrous.
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Why won't your country take them back?
 
AProudLefty said:
Especially when they herd sheeps or cows on the road.
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Or if it's a cape buffalo or a rhinoceros. Or bigfoot. But I believe that last one was already mentioned.
 
Acadia said:
You sure know your cryptozoology!
The Mothman Prophecies was a great little cult movie.
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I know a few random things that do nothing to improve my life...
 
Apparently, the official story is that the critter was a deer.


DEERZILLA!
 
americanwoman said:
So does that. ;)

But I'm glad you are for big government that takes people who are caught on the border, and instead of sorting it out and sending them back to where they are originally from, flies them to questionable for-profit detention centers that makes millions to detain people and children.
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They tried to sort it out and return them to Canada... no penalties. Canada REFUSED to take them back.
 
Fledermaus said:
Canada is still part of the commonwealth. Queen Elizabeth II is still their monarch.
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As a figurehead... legally speaking England gets no say in what happens in Commonwealth nations...
 
apdst said:
Why won't your country take them back?
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I have absolutely no idea.

However Canada is under absolutely no legal obligation to allow anyone other than Canadians to enter Canada and those folks were not Canadians (not even if those folks are **A*M*E*R*T*C*A*N*S** [if you can believe it]).

I suggest that you direct your inquiry to The Honourable Ahmed D. Hussen MP (365 Laurier Avenue West - Ottawa, Ontario - K1A 1L1 / Telephone: 1-613-954-1064 / Fax: 1-613-952-5533).
 
PoS said:
Those sneaky Canucks- trying to hoist their problems onto us!
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I have long said that you can never trust Canadians...
 
Grand Mal said:
I don't know how far from the border you live but there's lots of places where the only marker is a little, 4 foot aluminum Indian with Canada engraved on one side and United States on the other. It would be very easy to drive past it unnoticed- in fact, I only saw it because I was walking. In the town where I grew up there's miles of road, 0 Avenue in Surrey, BC, where you can walk across the street in Canada, cross a grass verge maybe10 feet and be standing on a residential street in Watcom County, Washington.
If you want to see how easy it could be to cross the border by mistake just Google Earth the border where it starts at Boundary Bay in the west and follow it.
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I have driven on some of those roads along the Canadian / US (Washington State) border. It is kinda interesting how, barring the little sign like you said, there is nothing else to indicate that there is a border. Some roads are literally the dividing line and if you literally just walk across the street you are in the other country.
 
americanwoman said:
I'll remember that if another national is legally visiting Mexico and happens to cross into the US, intentional or not, and Mexico doesn't want them back and their country doesn't answer, the logical thing will be to fly them further into our country, house them (including an infant) for hundreds of dollars per person per day at a detention center that was recommended by the state to be shut down, and take their time figuring out what to do with them.

I would say turning them back around and monitoring the area for awhile might make a little more sense and save a ton of money and the hassle of all the government time and paperwork while not exposing an infant to be locked up in a questionable detention center but I'm the crazy one.
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That is one thing that I wondered... If they crossed in Washington State, why fly them to freaking Ohio, or wherever it was. The money spent on it alone, makes no sense.
 
Acadia said:
Um, on a joy ride to nowhere? Detoured by a Yeti?
I can't believe anyone is gullible to fall for this woman's story!
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BIGFOOT!!!! :lol:
 
Bodhisattva said:
They tried to sort it out and return them to Canada... no penalties. Canada REFUSED to take them back.
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They didn't really need to tell Canada, wink wink, just send them back on their way.

If they really absolutely had to take them into custody and it didn't work to send them back to Canada, they had their passports and knew where they came from so just send them there.

If only it could be that easy, no?
 
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