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[W:369]Kavanaugh accused of more unwanted sexual contact by former classmate

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TurtleDude said:
what does that have to do with Kavanaugh? What do you think most of those applying to law school major in? Molecular Biophysics or Organic Chemistry? When I was here the history Department gave 40% As, the Molecular biochemistry and biophysics department was around 60% and the department of political science (and I was the senior my senior year who sat on the department's advisory board) it was 28% As. I don't know about the other departments, but we had a board meeting where that issue was discussed.

You all can spend the next year speculating, lying, guessing or supposing why Kavanaugh got into Yale, but the fact is, he was an editor of the Yale Law Journal and had a superb record as an appellate judge. I have no idea why some are trying to revisit an issue they already failed on before.

It really is hilarious watching people who seem not to have any experience at these schools trying to argue about Kavanaugh. I suggest they take it up with the admissions office at Yale Law School, assuming the people who made the decisions are even still alive.
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Kavanaugh was a legacy student. If I recall, he graduated from Yale with a BA cum lade in history. So 40% of history students got A's, huh?

If the FBI had been allowed to do their job and properly investigate Ford's allegations, it's unlikely that we would need to keep revisiting the issue.
 
Moot said:
Kavanaugh was a legacy student. If I recall, he graduated from Yale with a BA cum lade in history. So 40% of history students got A's, huh?

If the FBI had been allowed to do their job and properly investigate Ford's allegations, it's unlikely that we would need to keep revisiting the issue.
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what could they investigate when

she didn't know when it happened

she didn't know where it happened

she didn't know how she got there

she didn't know how she got home

she didn't know who she went with

and everyone she claimed was there, did not support her claims

I want you to tell me that if you were an FBI agent charged with investigating her claims, what you could have done?
 
TurtleDude said:
it is funny that the people who were alleged to be victims, could not remember anything. And this guy who stirred things up recently-hard core Democrat party operative
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Even the supposed witness of the event said they had no recollection, and yet NYT ran with a story based on what people heard from the guy who says he doesn't remember anything like that.

So the witness and the victim said it didn't happen... and yet some desperate nitwits think they can make a story out of it anyway. They keep proving they can dig the hole deeper.
 
TurtleDude said:
what could they investigate when

she didn't know when it happened

she didn't know where it happened

she didn't know how she got there

she didn't know how she got home

she didn't know who she went with

and everyone she claimed was there, did not support her claims

I want you to tell me that if you were an FBI agent charged with investigating her claims, what you could have done?
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I'm not sure what they are thinking could have been done, but I bet that "zoom in and augment" plays a pivotal role in it! :lamo
 
jmotivator said:
Even the supposed witness of the event said they had no recollection, and yet NYT ran with a story based on what people heard from the guy who says he doesn't remember anything like that.

So the witness and the victim said it didn't happen... and yet some desperate nitwits think they can make a story out of it anyway. They keep proving they can dig the hole deeper.
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just look at this thread, Kavanaugh becomes a totem or scape goat for posters who hate elite universities or fraternities or Trump or perhaps are upset they didn't get into Yale etc. 90% of the comments against Kavanaugh have zero relevance. And this "new"allegation is the same sordid innuendo and BS that we got a year ago.
 
jmotivator said:
I'm not sure what they are thinking could have been done, but I bet that "zoom in and augment" plays a pivotal role in it! :lamo
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go back 5 years and If I was sitting in my office and an FBI special agent showed up and said he was asked to investigate claims that were 35 years old, and not a single person, other than the person complaining, supported her claim, and she had no idea where the event took place, how she got there, etc, I'd ask him or her why they even wasted their time of coming down to our office.
 
weaver2 said:
"Political hack" is a pejorative term describing a person who is part of the political party apparatus, but whose intentions are more aligned with victory than personal conviction. The term "hired gun" is often used in tandem to further describe the moral bankruptcy of the "hack". When a group of "political hacks" of a similar political affiliation get together, they are sometimes called a "political hack pack."

Kavanaugh's position on the Starr team and much of his later position as advisor to Bush come under the heading of political hack " intentions are more aligned with victory than personal conviction"

His belief in advancing women in the legal profession by hiring and mentoring women is something he believes in that serves no political purpose for him. It's a conviction not political hacking.(anyway I hope that's what it is)

Ginsberg has convictions about women's rights.

He looks and acts like an alcoholic that can handle drink when professionally engaged.
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Good post overall, but I tend to question the final sentence. Are you perchance referring to his "personality change" when he returned to the hearing from lunch, when he went from fairly self-controlled professional to wild, tantrum-throwing asshole, showing a temperament that nobody (except Trump) should want as a Supreme Court judge? That may or may not indicate a personality change caused by alcohol, but it could also be caused by a phone call from the WH urging Kavanaugh to be more combative, because Trumps likes that style.

Either way, I wish he hadn't been confirmed and suspect that at some point in the years to come a legitimate impeachment based on hard, irrefutable evidence may be on Kavanaugh's horizon.
 
weaver2 said:
That somebody also bought a lot of silence from a lot of people. Why else was he not asked about something as inexplicable as a $250,000 credit card debt and its astronomical yearly interest costs.
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Well, it's not like the Trump administration isn't intimately familiar with hush-money and iron-clad Non-Disclosure Agreements, after all. :lol:
 
It is tragic that a person's entire professional career is fully disregarded for a smear campaign claiming he was a wild guy in high school and college.
 
joko104 said:
It is tragic that a person's entire professional career is fully disregarded for a smear campaign claiming he was a wild guy in high school and college.
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Why, yes, he was.
Are you unfamiliar with the concept of rape?
 
TurtleDude said:
what could they investigate when

she didn't know when it happened

she didn't know where it happened

she didn't know how she got there

she didn't know how she got home

she didn't know who she went with

and everyone she claimed was there, did not support her claims

I want you to tell me that if you were an FBI agent charged with investigating her claims, what you could have done?
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Mark Judge should've been called to testify under oath as well as the several witnesses who tried to collaborate her story.

I don't think the FBI even questioned them or tried to find the house where the alleged assault took place. The whole thing was like watching OJ not really trying to put on the glove.
 
Moot said:
Mark Judge should've been called to testify under oath as well as the several witnesses who tried to collaborate her story.

I don't think the FBI even questioned them or tried to find the house where the alleged assault took place. The whole thing was like watching OJ not really trying to put on the glove.
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they could not compel him to testify. SHE NEVER SAID ANYONE ELSE WAS THERE

so how could they support her story. It would be hearsay. The best they could do is support her claims that she didn't make this up a couple years ago.

How would the FBI find the house? She didn't know where it was, who owned it, or who in the group she mentioned lived there. And since all the people she claimed were there, denied it, what was the FBI going to do-canvas 30,000 homes within a 30 mile area of where Two Door Lived and asking them-Hey do you remember a party 35-37 years ago where someone might have groped some girl?
 
Overitall said:
So correct me if I'm wrong -- is this thread only for those who want to condemn Kavanaugh?
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You are wrong. This thread is clearly about Kavanaugh, not Bill Clinton who got impeached over a partisan induced technicality two decades ago. You are corrected.

But you oddly asked when Democrats found their moral compass. Given how Conservatives fumbled all over themselves to elect in 2016 a serial adulterer who grabs ***** whenever he wants and solicits sex from pornographers, how most Conservatives defended the suspended Roy Moore in 2017, and how they rallied to blindly defend Kavanaugh last year in 2018, the proper question to ask is when, along their FOX News propagandist induced comas, did Republicans begin abandoning theirs.
 
trixare4kids said:
Plus, didn't he have at least a half dozen background checks already?
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Yes, he did. But those don't count because the F.B.I. didn't find what the opposition wanted them to find and the opposition can't blame Trump for interfering in those background checks.

So, those checks must be ignored.

Because...those checks were done long before Trump was POTUS and Trump can't be blamed for interfering in those checks!

Roseann:)
 
MSgt said:
You are wrong. This thread is clearly about Kavanaugh, not Bill Clinton who got impeached over a partisan induced technicality two decades ago. You are corrected.

But you oddly asked when Democrats found their moral compass. Given how Conservatives fumbled all over themselves to elect in 2016 a serial adulterer who grabs ***** whenever he wants and solicits sex from pornographers, how most Conservatives defended the suspended Roy Moore in 2017, and how they rallied to blindly defend Kavanaugh last year in 2018, the proper question to ask is when, along their FOX News propagandist induced comas, did Republicans begin abandoning theirs.
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Other than some seething hate for the GOP, why was supporting Kavanaugh "blind" given how disgusting the efforts to undermine him were, combined with the obvious perjury that the creepy porn lawyer cooked up?
 
TurtleDude said:
I find it really hilarious that this issue was on the front page of almost every paper about a year ago, and this idiot comes forward now-was he in a coma or being held in a Soviet prison? Or did he do some new type of shroom that allowed him to remember something that he didn't think of when this matter was the #1 topic in the USA?
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I don't find it hilarious. I find it pathetic that he would cower as Ford sat out their on her own. What does he hope to accomplish now? It's too late.
 
MSgt said:
I don't find it hilarious. I find it pathetic that he would cower as Ford sat out their on her own. What does he hope to accomplish now? It's too late.
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sell books? he's a hard core democrat party activist, who apparently was on the opposite side of the clinton impeachment debacle that Kavanaugh was also involved in.
 
SMTA said:
Why, yes, he was.
Are you unfamiliar with the concept of rape?
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no one with a shred of credibility has claimed he raped anyone. but we see lots of people who really aren't interested in facts making claims of rape. What has he been actually accused of? Two door claimed he groped her. Ramirez claimed he exposed himself. hardly allegations of rape
 
TurtleDude said:
Other than some seething hate for the GOP, why was supporting Kavanaugh "blind" given how disgusting the efforts to undermine him were, combined with the obvious perjury that the creepy porn lawyer cooked up?
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Because you and the rest didn't care at all if he was innocent or guilty. You all nitpicked your way through the half-assed investigation to legitimize your partisan position; and your pre-determined support was based only on partisan politics. You chose to see Ford as a liar from the beginning, no matter what. It's the same reason people can put their heads straight up Trump's ass and call it fresh air. "Blind" support, no matter the cost.
 
MSgt said:
Because you and the rest didn't care at all if he was innocent or guilty. You all nitpicked your way through the half-assed investigation to legitimize your partisan position; and your pre-determined support was based only on partisan politics. You chose to see Ford as a liar from the beginning, no matter what. It's the same reason people can put their heads straight up Trump's ass and call it fresh air. "Blind" support, no matter the cost.
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you're wrong, people are presumed innocent until proven guilty. On one side, we had six FBI background checks, 11 years as a well respected judge, and not a single allegation in the last 30 years of any malfeasance. On the other side, we have venal political operatives, dragging up claims that were 35 years old, were unsupported by credible evidence and in some cases, were obvious perjury. When Two door claimed people witnessed her groping and they all deny even being at a party with her, it was easy to see her as either delusional, mentally ill or a liar.
 
TurtleDude said:
sell books? he's a hard core democrat party activist, who apparently was on the opposite side of the clinton impeachment debacle that Kavanaugh was also involved in.
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He could have sold books last year. And if you are trying to argue that this is about his being a hard core democrat Party activist, last year would have been the time. The two are obviously not connected.

Either way, he lacks integrity.
 
MSgt said:
He could have sold books last year. And if you are trying to argue that this is about his being a hard core democrat Party activist, last year would have been the time. The two are obviously not connected.

Either way, he lacks integrity.
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I certainly don't disagree with you on that point-the guy who just came forward is clearly dishonest
 
jmotivator said:
Huh, that is a pretty big update there, NYT.... :roll:

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Thats how the game is played. Put out the smear and poison oeoples minds than quietly insert a correction that most will never read so they can claim it wasnt fake news just an editorial mistake that they corrected as soon as they realized the error. Funny how these damaging mistakes happen perdominiately to republicans. Hey bu dont concern yourself with that, its all very innoncent

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