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Roger Stone Communicated With Russian Hackers, Mueller Indictment Suggests

Checkerboard Strangler said:
No matter what you come up with about what Trump knew, or didn't know at the time, one thing is crystal clear: Once he found out, he didn't give a damn and was happy to get as much help from Vladimir Putin as he could.

And, it is staggeringly obvious that he and the Republican Party are eager and overjoyed to get more help again. Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan and all the rest of the Fox News traitors are committing actual outright treason right under our noses.
They will stop at nothing.

If any of these people ever try to wrap themselves in the flag and sell themselves as patriots again, I recommend that the American people launch the mother of all bloody revolutions to stomp it down for keeps.
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obama knew what was going on in July or earlier and did nothing.
so he is just as much of an accomplice if you are going to issue that charge.

you don't know what treason is.
So far there has yet to be an indictment against anyone for Russian collusion.

have you not noticed that.

people have been indicted for lying to the FBI (i guess that is ok as long as you are clinton or work for her).
people have been indicted for previous crimes that have occured before the election started that are not even related to the election.

they just busted a bunch of russians, but that was expected not that anything will come of it.
So far though no one has been indicted for collusion with russia.
 
bubbabgone said:
Trying to hack the RNC doesn't count?
Russia's attempts to hack GOP reportedly fail because of spam filter - Business Insider
I bet you anticipated needing a "that's different" excuse. Amiright?
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Slyfox696 said:
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There's a difference between hacking old RNC servers (and not releasing the data) and hacking the campaign itself. Russia hacked the DNC, the DCCC, Clinton offices and their campaign. They did not put forth NEARLY that much effort against Trump.

No, I had already addressed the RNC hack which wasn't released and noted how Russia did not go after the Trump campaign.
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Do I know my Slyfox696? Oh yes. I do.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...ueller-indictment_us_5b48d9dce4b0bc69a786e89c

Among the revelations in special counsel Robert Mueller’s indictment of 12 Russian intelligence officers on Friday involved in hacking the Democratic National Committee was that the hackers communicated with individuals in the United States — including “a person who was in regular contact with senior members of the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump.”

Although not named in Friday’s documents, that person is widely known to be Trump confidant Roger Stone, who has previously posted screenshots of his interactions with one of the hackers, Guccifer 2.0.
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Who wants to bet whether or not Stone is among the next shoes to drop in the Mueller probe?
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I'm not a wagering sort, but I won't be remotely surprised if Stone's indicted.

Roger Stone, explained: the longtime Trump adviser and dirty trickster is in Mueller’s sights

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Paul Manafort (left), Roger Stone (center), and Lee Atwater (right), in March 1985, when they were lobbying partners​


I will give Stone one plaudit: the man is sartorially impeccable (although he affected it); it's the one thing he does that others ought to emulate, though without being the dandy he is.
 
ludin said:
obama knew what was going on in July or earlier and did nothing.
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Yeah sure, let's just imagine what the Republican reaction would have been had he tried to "do something".

NICE TRY...NOT.
 
Slyfox696 said:
A known Trump advisor who, according to the indictment, had regular conversations with senior Trump campaign officials had an ongoing and active conversation with Russian intelligence officers responsible for hacking Trump's opponent.

But continue pretending as if that is not incredibly relevant.
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Tell me, can you show me where this person knew the true identity of Gucifer 2.0?
 
calamity said:
Things that make you go hmmm...
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LOL. Sooooo.. in the bizarro world you now occupy, the Russian collusion was waiting for a public on air announcement by Trump to spring in to action, like a Bat Signal? :roll: :lamo

I mean, in the real world you badly mischaracterized what Trump actually said, and just take the standard yellow journalism approach to creating causality from weak correlation.. but you are calamity, and that is what you do.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Yeah sure, let's just imagine what the Republican reaction would have been had he tried to "do something".

NICE TRY...NOT.
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Can't deal with facts can you.
the fact is that Obama knew about Russia long before the election and did nothing.
that makes him an accomplice just like anything else.

so i guess he should be charged as well then?

that is what the law says is it not?
 
bubbabgone said:
Do I know my Slyfox696? Oh yes. I do.
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I mean...do you not understand the enormous difference between hacking an old RNC server and hacking an active Trump campaign server? If you'd like, I can explain it from a technical perspective.

For tldr version, Russia hacked BOTH the active DNC servers and Clinton campaign accounts.
jmotivator said:
Tell me, can you show me where this person knew the true identity of Gucifer 2.0?
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July 2016 (before the dates listed in the indictment):

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/29/cozy-bear-fancy-bear-russia-hack-dnc
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-fingerprints-left-behind-on-dnc-hack/
Hacker Guccifer 2.0 claims new DNC data leak | Fox News
https://www.wired.com/2016/07/heres-know-russia-dnc-hack/
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/...y-consensus-grows-that-russia-hacked-dnc.html
https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/27/politics/dnc-hacking-emails-russia-white-house/index.html


But you're right, how would a long time political operative like Roger Stone have ever been able to know Russia could possibly have been behind the hack? :roll:

Please don't say stupid things, I've already reached my limit for the week.
 
Slyfox696 said:
I mean...do you not understand the enormous difference between hacking an old RNC server and hacking an active Trump campaign server? If you'd like, I can explain it from a technical perspective.

For tldr version, Russia hacked BOTH the active DNC servers and Clinton campaign accounts.
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Becaaaauuuuuse ... they were able to.

It was an utter delight to have my prediction borne out.
It is a trademark of the Left after all so not at all surprising to anyone paying attention.
 
bubbabgone said:
Becaaaauuuuuse ... they were able to.
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:lol:

Not trying to be patronizing, but do you realize how uniformed that comment sounds, especially considering the attack methods Russia used? There is no such thing as 100% security and with a program like spearphishing, you go after users, not system vulnerabilities.

"Because they were able to" is not a coherent response to what Russia did.

It was an utter delight to have my prediction borne out.
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If you predicted there's a difference between old RNC servers and what Russia did to the DNC, the DNCC and Clinton campaign, then why did you ask the question in the first place? Because everyone with a modicum of knowledge understands the incredible difference between what happened to Republicans and Democrats.

Saying that stealing my old handbag out of the trash and continuously stealing every new wallet you purchase is the same is basically what you're claiming here.
 
Slyfox696 said:
A known Trump advisor who, according to the indictment, had regular conversations with senior Trump campaign officials had an ongoing and active conversation with Russian intelligence officers responsible for hacking Trump's opponent.

But continue pretending as if that is not incredibly relevant.
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Well, no, the indictment said that Trump's team didn't know that these people were Russian agents. However, the larger question is this: The DNC servers were never looked at, so how can you say this group or that group hacked them?
 
Slyfox696 said:
:lol:

Not trying to be patronizing, but do you realize how uniformed that comment sounds, especially considering the attack methods Russia used? There is no such thing as 100% security and with a program like spearphishing, you go after users, not system vulnerabilities.

"Because they were able to" is not a coherent response to what Russia did.

If you predicted there's a difference between old RNC servers and what Russia did to the DNC, the DNCC and Clinton campaign, then why did you ask the question in the first place? Because everyone with a modicum of knowledge understands the incredible difference between what happened to Republicans and Democrats.

Saying that stealing my old handbag out of the trash and continuously stealing every new wallet you purchase is the same is basically what you're claiming here.
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You carry a handbag?
 
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Slyfox696 said:
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July 2016 (before the dates listed in the indictment):

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/29/cozy-bear-fancy-bear-russia-hack-dnc
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-fingerprints-left-behind-on-dnc-hack/
Hacker Guccifer 2.0 claims new DNC data leak | Fox News
https://www.wired.com/2016/07/heres-know-russia-dnc-hack/
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/...y-consensus-grows-that-russia-hacked-dnc.html
https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/27/politics/dnc-hacking-emails-russia-white-house/index.html


But you're right, how would a long time political operative like Roger Stone have ever been able to know Russia could possibly have been behind the hack? :roll:

Please don't say stupid things, I've already reached my limit for the week.
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Those are all July 2016 stories (could have been circular reporting too)

A self-described “dirty trickster” in American politics, Stone has taken credit for persuading President Trump to get into politics. He initially served as an adviser to Trump’s 2016 campaign but left amid controversy in 2015. While Trump told the Washington Post at the time that he “terminated Roger Stone...because he no longer serves a useful function for my campaign," Stone told a different story, explaining on Twitter their falling out was about political messaging.
Stone for his part has rejected any notion he was part of some grand conspiracy of collusion. When asked by ABC News in June whether he believed that Guccifer 2.0 was an operative of the Russian military intelligence, Stone denied it.
“I've written a 5,000 word piece you can see it stone cold truth that argues against that,” Stone told ABC News in an interview last month. “But even if he was, my communication with him is ex post facto it happens weeks after the WikiLeaks have already published the Democratic National Committee emails and therefore collusion would have to be, would have to be chronological.”
“Leaking after the fact,” Stone added, “impossible.”
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rog...entioned-mueller-indictment/story?id=56577300​
 
Mr. Invisible said:
Well, no, the indictment said that Trump's team didn't know that these people were Russian agents.
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No it didn't. In fact, it strongly insinuated they did know.

Push lies somewhere else.
bubbabgone said:
You carry a handbag?
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That's what was in my head when I posted that. :)
bubbabgone said:
Those are all July 2016 stories
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Exactly. So Stone would have known in August 2016 Russia hacked, which is what jmotivator asked.
 
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