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Trump accuses Obama of wiretapping Trump Tower

ocean515 said:
Flynn leaks, leaks of conversations between the President and other foreign leaders. All the leaks.

It's one thing for the lefts media partners to conjure up these accusations about things, and have all of us throw jello on each other debating their veracity.

It's something else to leak transcripts and other protected documents, especially transcripts of Flynn's telephone intercepts, to the public. Many of these document leaks are violations of National Intelligence, the punishment of which could be 10 years in jail.

The fact these operatives are leaking this secret information with apparent impunity suggests a protective apparatus has been put in place which should be setting off deafening alarm bells for any objective thinking citizen.
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LOL Because "Deep Throat" got so many years in prison? The press protects their informants. There is nothing new or sinister about that. You are in denial. Trump was recently told and now we all know that Trump Tower was bugged with a warrant and the investigation is continuing. This is what drove Trump to give up that info in a tweet. He's running scared.
 
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Mac77 said:
If its true the is beginning of the end of our republic

Nothing brings us closer to dictatorship than one political party using its police power to spy on the opposition party
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This is ironic considering wikileaks and hackers had a lot to do with Trump getting into the white house.
 
haymarket said:
What FISA warrant was issued to Obama to tap Trumps phone?
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Either Obama tapped President Trump's phone, or classified information was leaked to Obama.
 
SheWolf said:
This is ironic considering wikileaks and hackers had a lot to do with Trump getting into the white house.
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No

lying ugly cheating hillary did that to herself

Trump was just the beneficiary of her greed and stupidity
 
Mac77 said:
Thats ****ing leftwing bull****

There are no bush43 war criminals
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Calm done now with your cussing, Mac77.

It appears radcen touched a nerve discussing bush43 war criminals.

Do you criticize your comrade president when he trashes the bush43 war criminals?

I lost count on how many different positions dear leader trump had on Iraq 2 .
 
MaggieD said:
Unlike the Left, I don't deal in what-ifs when it comes to the POTUS.

Tell me, by the way, how the Russians hijacked the election. What a ridiculous theory. REEEEEdiculous. The only afoot conspiracy is the one being executed by the left to destroy Donald Trump's presidency.
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This whole thread is a big what if. Trump hasn't offered any proof Obama wiretapped him, but he is declaring it like it's a fact.
 
Mac77 said:
Do you wanna bet?

Trump has the authority to see anything he pleases
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Has trump seen the UFO files that then CIA chief GHWB showed Carter YET?

You do know that WJC never got to see them, right ?
 
I'm warning the liberals

Every president is capable of exceeding their authority

And in the past I was just as opposed when either side did it.

But obama has gone too far and now all bets are off

If trump responds in ways you don't like then tough ****

Dont come crying to me about it because I won't care
 
iguanaman said:
LOL Because "Deep Throat" got so many years in prison? The press protects their informants. You are in denial. Trump was recently told and now we all know that Trump Tower was bugged with a warrant and the investigation is continuing. This is what drove Trump to give up that info in a tweet. He's running scared.
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It does not surprise me for an instant that you wouldn't understand what is going on. They count on it. The alt-left appears to be well trained at ignoring grave violations of national security and placing citizens in danger.

Deep Throat was a part of conspiracy that began with an attempt to cover up a wiretaping venture at the DNC. "He" did not divulge national intelligence capabilities to foreign governments, nor did he divulge the contents of intercepts that effort obtained.

You're inability to grasp the difference is noted, but not unexpected.
 
NIMBY said:
Where is the GOP committee on the uranium deal, since the GOP isn't really that busy investigating djt ?
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Greetings, NIMBY. :2wave:

I've wondered the same thing ever since the sale took place. :shock: Since all the paperwork was apparently done in Canada, although I'm not sure why about that either, since both Clintons were born in the US, but perhaps tax laws were more favorable there or something. I really don't understand why it was done the way it was, but I did read recently that Obama gave permission to sell over 100 tons of Uranium One ore to Iran! Again, I don't know why Iran was chosen because they are supposedly our enemy plus being the number one sponsor of terrorism in the world, but I guess we weren't supposed to hear about that either, which is probably why we weren't told! You tell me why, NIMBY, because none of this makes sense to me!
 
NIMBY said:
At least I quote your post, Fletch, instead of hiding behind another poster.

The number of CT posters from your alt-right trumpistani world grew an order of magnitude today with dear leader trump's unsubstantiated lies .
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I quote your posts all the time and have, in fact, made the exact same comment about the CT nature of your posts to you directly. As for Trumps tweet, I will wait and see if there is any truth to it. Unfortunately for Trump, his tweets are not exactly a good source of information. We will know the truth in a day or two. But you are really the last person who should call out others for spouting 'unsubstantiated lies.'
 
radcen said:
Ok, just for the sake of conversation, let's say it is true. What do you think will happen? Do any of you honestly believe that somebody significant is going to go down for it?
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Maybe.
The most significant thing, for me, about having Trump in office is the unknown.
It's like masochist Christmas gift, that could be a normal, good Christmas gift.
 
NIMBY said:
Has trump seen the UFO files that then CIA chief GHWB showed Carter YET?

You do know that WJC never got to see them, right ?
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Maybe WJC was too busy working on his humidor to take the time to view them.
 
Mac77 said:
I'm warning the liberals

Every president is capable of exceeding their authority

And in the past I was just as opposed when either side did it.

But obama has gone too far and now all bets are off

If trump responds in ways you don't like then tough ****

Dont come crying to me about it because I won't care
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Don't be silly. Consider for a moment that you are a President who discovers a multilayered plot against you concerning government involvement at the deepest levels. Would you tell the world, crow about a TV show, then go to play golf?
 
eohrnberger said:
When are you folks going to stop supporting the insanity of Obama's Deep Government?
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I do not have the slightest idea what that is.

Is this another right wing dog whistle getting currency of late?
 
NIMBY said:
Let me suggest Speaker Ryan for President and Sen. Corker for VP, someone who knows what the hell is going on in foreign affairs .
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Right now it looks like Ryan may indeed be wearing the crown before the 2020 election ever gets here. And I am sure that would make the GOP regulars very happy.
 
ocean515 said:
:lamo

So you're calling me dishonest? Why do you always attack me haymarket? I thought you had a real obsession about people attacking? Apparently it must be some hypocritical tick you can't control.
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I simply asked you to give an honest answer to the question. Can you do that?
 
Manc Skipper said:
Don't be silly. Consider for a moment that you are a President who discovers a multilayered plot against you concerning government involvement at the deepest levels. Would you tell the world, crow about a TV show, then go to play golf?
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I don't think I've ever seen a poster WARN a whole LEAN of posters.

These alt-right trumpcons are losing it faster than trump.

Bannon is indeed loving the CHAOS as he advises trump again this multi-million dollar weekend .
 
Mac77 said:
Do you wanna bet?

Trump has the authority to see anything he pleases
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Do I want to bet what? That Malcolm Nance said what I stated he said? Sure I will bet on that.
 
apdst said:
Either Obama tapped President Trump's phone, or classified information was leaked to Obama.
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and your evidence for this claim would be what?
 
haymarket said:
Right now it looks like Ryan may indeed be wearing the crown before the 2020 election ever gets here. And I am sure that would make the GOP regulars very happy.
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I've amended my ongoing prediction. They may keep a wounded Pence around as a lame duck and caretaker until 2020.

One significant fly in Ryan's ointment may be Sen. Paul, who won't be facing reelection in 2020.

Knowing that McConnell will blow up the senate in the next four years, GOPs have 22 seats to cover in 2020 and 2022 so that will come back around on them.

The house certainly looks in sight for 2020, if not 2018.

State legislatures are where it's always been.

trump going after Obama was a big-time ****up and will drive voter turnout to record levels for DEMs in a mid-term .
 
Mac77 said:
Fine

Now trump can monitor all of obama's conversation with his shadow government flunkies with your blessing
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i didn't support the "patriot" act, carnivore, or any of the other stuff. i'm pointing out that this is a thing.
 
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