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Susan Rice Blames ‘Foreign Actors’ for George Floyd Protests: ‘Right Out of the Russian Playbook'

Man up guys. Blacks are responsible for 52% of the murders in the USA despite being only 13% of the population. This is per the FBI crime statistics. Also, more whites are killed by police then blacks.

I guess when statistics don’t work in favor of the Democrats narratives they just ignore them and act like those numbers don’t have exist.
 
The idiot leftists in this country have created the ****holes that have finally boiled over. Every single one of those dismal places have had decades...some going all the way back to the 50's...of democrat 'leadership'. The leftist rats in this country voted those pieces of **** into power and they have presided over the destruction of black American communities in every single instance. DEMOCRATS control the government in those cities...DEMOCRATS control the police forces in those cities. And the only thing 'progressive' about them is that they have gotten steadily and progressively worse and worse every year and yet they STILL want to sit back and shriek and wail and blame everyone else.

The implication now being promoted by the idiot leftists is that black people arent smart enough to recognize if they are being led into a race riot by 'Russians' (because the rat party DOES love their Baba Yaga) or by ANTIFA and NOT in response to the decades of corrupt and inept government they have been blessed with.
 
What GOOD has Susan Rice ever done? It seems rather obvious that she’s both a racist and an enemy of the United States.
 
Vern said:
san, other than you not believing it, what makes it a lie exactly? thanks in advance.
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Burden of proof is on you, not me - your side are the ones making these Russia claims - extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
 
Thoreau72 said:
At this early stage it does appear that SOMEBODY is starting the violence. Just who it is remains to be seen. I saw stories and pictures this morning of neat piles of bricks in Dallas and elsewhere, conveniently placed for protestors to grab and throw them.

Whodunnit might never be known. Left, Right, Foreign, Domestic, Russian, Israeli, ISIS, who knows?
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Arrest records are showing that majority of arrests are of locals who are trying to grab free stuff by raiding stores.
 
Vern said:
a couple of things schism. Its undeniable that there are trolls on this board doing Putin's bidding. some are clearly paid.
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Name them. Post the evidence that you have to support your claim along with evidence of payment by whom to whom.

But I highly suspect you cannot, and will either run away from you comment or return with hand waving and double down with "I KNOW it's true!".

Others are just that really stupid and believe the propaganda from Russia and conservatives.
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You, for example.

How difficult is it to believe there is a concerted effort to get ignorant conservatives to infiltrate the protests and cause trouble. this is not some new tactic that nobody ever thought of.
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How difficult is it to believe there is a concerted effort to get ignorant liberals to believe that conservatives have infiltrated the protests and caused trouble?

Not difficult at all, you're doing it now. Liberals are ignoring the tens of thousands of urban blacks and working poor wilding from one street to the next and destroying block after block. These aren't white nationalists, KKK, or right wing militias. You're LYING and disseminating disinformation because political agenda.

Blacks are disaffected in democrat run cities with black mayors, black police chiefs, and black representatives.

Maxine Waters is a fraud and blacks no longer believe democrat lies. Every major city. Every major democrat stronghold is in flames, and they CANNOT control their own constituents. STOP trying to shift the blame. Americans are tired of the lies and broken promises. This is a referendum on Democrats and their s***hole cities.
 
Vern said:
Wow, still with that conservative lie. Rice simply read the CIA talking points. And those points included numerous qualifiers so the word "lie" doesn't apply. But I have to ask, why do you pretend to care about dishonesty? Bush lied us into the Iraq war and Trump literally lies 10 times a day. anyhoo, here is all the proof you need to know your conservative masters are lying to you about Rice.
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Ah yes, and here we have one of the last few sheeple bitterly clinging to the propaganda lines they were fed.
 
Vern said:
The caveats alone prove your obedient narrative wrong. this is from one of the many republican investigations.




You prove my point perfectly. Now DC, since you've determined to flail about this "injustice" you must really really really be angry that Bush lied us into Iraq or that trump literally lies 10 times a day. And for you to post "had not looked at current material from the CIA " just proves your dishonesty. She was reading the CIA talking points. You just don't get to believe otherwise.
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Honestly, I can't believe you are continuing with that. You are 'flailing' and determined to ride that horse into the ground. The story you linked doesn't even support it, beyond saying there was 'no intent to mislead the American public.' We know those weren't the original talking points, but heavily edited ones. We know they were aged by the time Rice used them. We know that Rice (and the public) had access to more accurate information. We know they were wrong.

So again, Rice was either lying or incompetent. She chose incompetent. I don't think she is that stupid, but assuming she is, why would we listen to her now?
 
sanman said:
Susan Rice Blames ‘Foreign Actors’ for Stirring George Floyd Protests: ‘Right Out of the Russian Playbook’





Ohhh - here it comes - MUH RUSSIA be ruining muh ghettos by making them violent! Sez crooked Susan Rice. :roll:

What a horrible joke these people are. Next they'll be claiming that Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin was a Russian agent.

Their lies keep getting bigger, and more ambitious -- more desperate, actually.
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You mean she didn't blame a video?
 
Atomic Kid said:
She's right. The Russians have long made use of America's 'original sin'. Slavery and race. They have always seen it as a convenient Achille's heel of our democratic republic and easy to exploit. And they always play "both sides" in their exploitation. They will message Black Americans that they are being ruthlessly repressed and will never free and equal. Then at same time they will message White Americans that their suspicions that Black Americans are nothing more thuggish anarchists out to destroy the country. Their goal is promote division and sow chaos.
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Yes-- they did this 2016.
Unfortunately, Russia's efforts to play both sides was used by one side as a political weapon against Mr. Trump.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Why WOULDN'T Russia wish to take advantage of the situation?
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You keep singling out Russia for special mention here, rather than anybody else.
So China - which has an economy 15X Russia's size, and is building new islands to grab entire sections of ocean, and is sending troops into HongKong - doesn't get any mention from you.
Iran, which handsomely benefited from Obama's kindness (Russia hasn't benefited from Trump) gets no mention from you.
ISIS and AlQaeda, which have also drawn sustenance from Democrat "Islamophobia" rhetoric, get no mention from you.
Democrats themselves, who want to introduce fundamental changes to electoral laws to fundamentally change a system in place for hundreds of years, can't be guilty of election interference.
Democrats, who want to import an entire new electorate for themselves from south of the border, are all choirboys to you.

Apparently, nobody can be a threat to US elections except those who get your certificate of approval.
Nah, your certificate is worth nothing. Crooked certificate from crook is worthless.
 
sanman said:
You keep singling out Russia for special mention here, rather than anybody else.
So China - which has an economy 15X Russia's size, and is building new islands to grab entire sections of ocean, and is sending troops into HongKong - doesn't get any mention from you.
Iran, which handsomely benefited from Obama's kindness (Russia hasn't benefited from Trump) gets no mention from you.
ISIS and AlQaeda, which have also drawn sustenance from Democrat "Islamophobia" rhetoric, get no mention from you.
Democrats themselves, who want to introduce fundamental changes to electoral laws to fundamentally change a system in place for hundreds of years, can't be guilty of election interference.
Democrats, who want to import an entire new electorate for themselves from south of the border, are all choirboys to you.

Apparently, nobody can be a threat to US elections except those who get your certificate of approval.
Nah, your certificate is worth nothing. Crooked certificate from crook is worthless.
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Oh, I wouldn't argue against a claim that China or Iran was up to no good. There is no particular reason to suppose they wouldn't either.
My thing is why charge a hill in defense that Russia wouldn't do such a thing? It makes no sense.

In any event, look at what Rice is saying: She is saying Russia plays BOTH sides to create mischief and to create chaos. BOTH SIDES.
Aren't we still dealing with the fallout of a determination in the government in which she served that Trump was conspiring with Russia as opposed to Russia helping BOTH sides (ie the famous Steele Dossier)? Take what she is saying as good news and continued refutation and collapse of that horrendous narrative.
Blame the mayors and governors for not effectively dealing with the events on the ground.
 
sanman said:
Susan Rice Blames ‘Foreign Actors’ for Stirring George Floyd Protests: ‘Right Out of the Russian Playbook’





Ohhh - here it comes - MUH RUSSIA be ruining muh ghettos by making them violent! Sez crooked Susan Rice. :roll:

What a horrible joke these people are. Next they'll be claiming that Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin was a Russian agent.

Their lies keep getting bigger, and more ambitious -- more desperate, actually.
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So I guess when the riots were happening over Rodney King and every other high profile police killing or beating of a black person it was the Russians doing all the looting,assaulting and setting buildings on fire.
 
Taylor said:
Ah yes, and here we have one of the last few sheeple bitterly clinging to the propaganda lines they were fed.
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taylor, I have to chuckle that you call me posting the conclusion of one of the many republican investigations "propaganda lines" as you spew the lies you were fed. Like all conservatives, you simply can not process data that conflicts with what you want to believe. Read this as many times as necessary for it to sink in

"The report blames the Obama administration's inaccurate portrayal of the attack as having evolved from a protest on fragmentary and contradictory intelligence from the CIA. It finds no intent to mislead the American public."

that's from a republican report. So it wouldn't matter if she didn't use any caveats. But she did.

Vern said:
Now about those caveats, the talking points Rice read were loaded with them

"— Ambassador Rice used the same caveats regarding uncertainty of information at that time: “our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present” (ABC “This Week”); “the best information we have at present … our current assessment … there’s an FBI investigation which is ongoing” (NBC’s “Meet the Press”);
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So think about that for a second. rice simply says what the CIA said with all the caveats but bush lies about what the CIA said about WMDs and you don't call him a liar. mmm, in addition to hypocrite, that just adds to your dishonesty. And bullseye, Rice repeating the CIA talking points didn't kill thousands of GIs and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Can you explain why you're angry about the example you're lying about? Oh wait, you're in a cult, never mind.
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again taylor, read that as many times as necessary. Remember, you're in a cult, your initial reaction is to flail at reality.
 
sanman said:
Burden of proof is on you, not me - your side are the ones making these Russia claims - extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
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You called it a lie. the burden is actually on you. Your own link tells you this

current national-security adviser Robert O’Brien on Sunday pointed to a number of countries that were attempting to foment unrest via social media. Chief among those countries is China, however O’Brien also mentioned Iran, Russia, and Zimbabwe as possibly using social media to enflame tensions in the U.S.


don't be embarrassed, most conservatives don't read the links they post. When putin reads this, trump will probably fire him.
 
It's so hard to tell Russian bots because they are identical to Republican ones.
 
Schism said:
Name them. Post the evidence that you have to support your claim along with evidence of payment by whom to whom.

But I highly suspect you cannot, and will either run away from you comment or return with hand waving and double down with "I KNOW it's true!".



You, for example.



How difficult is it to believe there is a concerted effort to get ignorant liberals to believe that conservatives have infiltrated the protests and caused trouble?

Not difficult at all, you're doing it now. Liberals are ignoring the tens of thousands of urban blacks and working poor wilding from one street to the next and destroying block after block. These aren't white nationalists, KKK, or right wing militias. You're LYING and disseminating disinformation because political agenda.

Blacks are disaffected in democrat run cities with black mayors, black police chiefs, and black representatives.

Maxine Waters is a fraud and blacks no longer believe democrat lies. Every major city. Every major democrat stronghold is in flames, and they CANNOT control their own constituents. STOP trying to shift the blame. Americans are tired of the lies and broken promises. This is a referendum on Democrats and their s***hole cities.
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well to be fair, I don't get to see their pay stubs so I cant discern the dumb ones from the paid ones. If its any consolation, I don't think you get paid. If you did, I'm sure you get a bump for mentioning Waters. Anyhoo, I do have to chuckle, besides getting I KNOW it's true!" replies to my posts in response to actual facts, this thread is literally based on "I KNOW it's true!" Be sure to mention that to the OP.
 
Vern said:
You called it a lie. the burden is actually on you. Your own link tells you this
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No, they made the Russian claim - as opposed to blaming China, ISIS, etc - that's something very specific. The burden is on them to prove their very specific allegation.

current national-security adviser Robert O’Brien on Sunday pointed to a number of countries that were attempting to foment unrest via social media. Chief among those countries is China, however O’Brien also mentioned Iran, Russia, and Zimbabwe as possibly using social media to enflame tensions in the U.S.


don't be embarrassed, most conservatives don't read the links they post. When putin reads this, trump will probably fire him.
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Yeah, so basically "In Russia, water is wet!" -- like that doesn't apply to others?
In other words, you're going out of your way to give special mention to Russia, to further the whole Russia narrative. You won't mention China, or Iran, or ISIS, or anybody else - just wanna give special mention to Russia. Like I said, some guy with a Russian IP-address making sh!tposts doesn't amount to a grand conspiracy. You're trying to contrive a narrative.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Yes-- they did this 2016.
Unfortunately, Russia's efforts to play both sides was used by one side as a political weapon against Mr. Trump.
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Looking at the chaos and carnage around us, one can see why Russia worked to elect Trump.
 
sanman said:
No, they made the Russian claim - as opposed to blaming China, ISIS, etc - that's something very specific. The burden is on them to prove their very specific allegation.




Yeah, so basically "In Russia, water is wet!" -- like that doesn't apply to others?
In other words, you're going out of your way to give special mention to Russia, to further the whole Russia narrative. You won't mention China, or Iran, or ISIS, or anybody else - just wanna give special mention to Russia. Like I said, some guy with a Russian IP-address making sh!tposts doesn't amount to a grand conspiracy. You're trying to contrive a narrative.
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Russia has a well documented history meddling in our affairs and fomenting chaos.
 
dcsports said:
Honestly, I can't believe you are continuing with that. You are 'flailing' and determined to ride that horse into the ground. The story you linked doesn't even support it, beyond saying there was 'no intent to mislead the American public.' We know those weren't the original talking points, but heavily edited ones. We know they were aged by the time Rice used them. We know that Rice (and the public) had access to more accurate information. We know they were wrong.

So again, Rice was either lying or incompetent. She chose incompetent. I don't think she is that stupid, but assuming she is, why would we listen to her now?
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I'm sorry DC, one of the many republican investigations prove your obedient beliefs false. seriously DC, if you are going to cheer 8 investigations, you should at least accept their conclusions. If you reply, be sure to explain why you don't have to believe the republican report. Here, read this again. Slowly this time

"The report blames the Obama administration's inaccurate portrayal of the attack as having evolved from a protest on fragmentary and contradictory intelligence from the CIA. It finds no intent to mislead the American public."
 
sanman said:
No, they made the Russian claim - as opposed to blaming China, ISIS, etc - that's something very specific. The burden is on them to prove their very specific allegation.




Yeah, so basically "In Russia, water is wet!" -- like that doesn't apply to others?
In other words, you're going out of your way to give special mention to Russia, to further the whole Russia narrative. You won't mention China, or Iran, or ISIS, or anybody else - just wanna give special mention to Russia. Like I said, some guy with a Russian IP-address making sh!tposts doesn't amount to a grand conspiracy. You're trying to contrive a narrative.
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Russia's interference is documented. Sure trump told you otherwise but he was lying.
 
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