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Chaos In Minneapolis: Looting Occurring In the City, Tear Gas Being Used

dirtpoorchris said:
So we have video evidennce of a cop being equal or worse that some super black thugs that terrorize their own community (far worse because he has the power of the badge behind him) and your go to is "Who cares about lawful murder via a cop acting worse than a super black thug" At least thats what your logic sounds like to me.

Thats like saying "Who cares if a cop beat a man unlawfully the victims mom probably beat the victim too"
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I'm exposing the lies. The biggest threat to a black person in The United States is another black person.
 
calamity said:
Well, seeing that the cop is white and the dead guy was black, he might have had a reason
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Revealing that what you imagine "might" be, becomes your reality.
 
truthatallcost said:
This is a breaking story, so more info should be available in the coming hours.

We haven't had a race riot since Obama was in office. The majority of Trump's first term saw radical groups like Black Lives Matter fade into the background, as police department's use of body cameras helped protect the country from black rage.
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You give away your totally biased rewrite of history.
Most riots are not tied directly to the president sitting in the White House, so enough with your need to blame riots on Obama.

Notice the trend in this historical list of US riots: List of incidents of civil unrest in the United States - Wikipedia

If attitudes and outcomes surrounding racial justice don't improve we may be looking at a repeat of the 1960s in the 2020s.

91 riots prior to 1900

66 in 1910s

13 in 1920s

18 in 1930s

13 in 1940s

5 in 1950s

62 in 1960s

33 in 1970s

7 in 1980s

10 in 1990s

15 in 2000s

33 since 2010
 
Excon said:
1. Besides being wrong, no one said you had to respond to it.
2. Unless it is a violation, I will post as I see fit.
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Yes, it's an absolute mess, as is the post I'm responding to now. You can absolutely post a mess. It's within the rules. It just makes it difficult for people to have a conversation with you.

Excon said:
Maybe you should pay attention to what has already been provided.

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I didn't see this. Was it buried in that LONG post? The link is a WaPo article (paywalled) and useless.

However, it doesn't answer the questions I posed. You merely restated them. And clearly (as even you point out) he can be charged with a crime (s). I look forward to seeing the policy, but I can't imagine it was followed here.

Excon said:
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No it wasn't cruel.
He had been resisting and was finally subdued. You do not release that just becasue the suspect is lying to you.
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Absolutely was cruel. Even if he was resisting prior to the video, he wasn't then, and was restrained and on the ground. There was no reason to continue.

Excon said:
Again with citing his lie huh? Figures.
As for pain - the ambulance was called. Had it not been called you could possible assert negligence. You release the hold when it's no longer necessary.

As I pointed out - he wasn't lying. He was in obvious distress.

Excon said:
In regards to breathing? Yes they should assume he was lying becasue he could clearly breath.


No.
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I covered this. He wasn't lying - he felt like he couldn't breath. No, his airway wasn't blocked. But he was in obvious distress. Again - classic sign of cardiac distress, which the officer, trained in first aid, should have known. He jumped to 'the person is lying and so I'm going to continue to punish him'. This isn't the first person to die in police custody under that practice.

First aid should have been given, and the ambulance called, when he started showing signs of a medical emergency - not after he passed out, and certainly not minutes later.

Excon said:
Which is what everyone should have waited for before making their assertions.
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Yes and no. As I said - it's not clear that the officer directly killed the man. It is obvious this was an unnecessary use of force and the officers failed to respond to a medical emergency
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PCB66 said:
We expect Blacks to be looters and rioters. They have been doing it for decades. Thieving, violence, destruction and bad behavior is embedded in their culture. We see it every few years.

What is pathetic is when you see the pathetic weak minded confused pink ***** hat White Guilt Libtard Moon Bats joining them. That comes from bad parenting.
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What time is your next KKK meeting?
 
jotathought said:
... and people wonder why some of us prefer to be armed.
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I'm with you. Watching that cop crush that guy's throat while his fellow peace officers ignored people's pleas for the victim's life makes me eager to get armed.
You never know when you might be attacked by a ruthless maniac police officer.
 
apdst said:
I'm saying that cops aren't black folks biggest fear, especially when most cases of cops killing a black person, the cop is justified.
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Despite your point, THIS vicious cop's actions were not justified. If that had happened to anyone in my neighborhood, community, or county, those 4 cops would have been arrested.
 
slick said:
Trump's motto of "Make America Great Again' was flawed! What he is actually trying to do is (Make America as good as it
can be under the circumstances of decay which occurred over the last 50 years). Big difference!

America overtook Britain as the greatest economic & military power in the world in the 1920's far before the
'age of diversity'. Since the age of diversity in a matter of years the USA will soon give up those titles after 100 years to
a country which benefited greatly from a homogenous citizenry all rowing the boat in the same direction.
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Trump’s motto was and is inherently flawed because despite what conservatives fantasize, America never stopped being great. It certainly didn’t need a draft dodger who went after POWs to make it “great again”.

On the other hand, the “good old days” where you could scream about how minorities having rights was “communism” are gone, and they aren’t ever coming back.,

America didn’t really “overtake” Britain and the other European powers until after World War Two, where xenophobia and nativism left them completely wrecked(and, of course, it’s rather telling how much the nativists and isolationists here in the US admired Hitler and Nazi Germany). America didn’t emerge as a hyper power until the 1990s. So your premise is faulty...as usual.

The delusion that everyone in America was “rowing the boat in the same directly” is pretty funny. Apparently you don’t know anything about early American history, because there were new crisises practically every other day. It’s a damn miracle the country didn’t fall apart.
 
Josie said:
My guess is that the police officer was trained to hold down a suspect like this and it was an accident.
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The police officer's actions are not part of professional law enforcement training. That is why many police commissioners in other cities have expressed their concerns
for the death which looks to many to be murder. But the legal issue aside, if the victim had been your brother would your dismissal of be so cold?
 
truthatallcost said:
This is a breaking story, so more info should be available in the coming hours.

We haven't had a race riot since Obama was in office. The majority of Trump's first term saw radical groups like Black Lives Matter fade into the background, as police department's use of body cameras helped protect the country from black rage.
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To call Black Lives Matter a radical group makes me assume that you're a card-carrying John Bircher? :lol:
 
slick said:
C'mon! If you really feel that way you're swimming upstream, that's a backbreaker. Ethnonationalism is not resurgent it never died.
It continues to be & nearly always has been the world in which we live in the most powerful movement.

Always it's Sameness that dominates! People favor friendships with those of similar backgrounds, interests & values.
Despite a few exceptions the urge is almost universal, it's human nature!'

It outlasted Marxism tearing apart the USSR. Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova & the Caucusus followed suite
& then went the 5 nations of Central Asia. That was not the end only the beginning, minorities inside the new nations wanted their
place in the sun & the Caucasus became the 20th century Balkans. This is just the primary example of many other breakups throughout the world demonstrating the pull of ethnonationalism.

Czechoslavakia, the Soviet Union & Yugoslavia were held together by a police state
when the police state disintegrated new nationalistic nations were formed.
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Ah yes, the disintegration of Yugoslavia was such a clean and orderly occurrence, I can totally see why you think it was a ringing endorsement of your ideology :roll:

Not to mention that it was ethnonationalism which caused the killing of Archduke Franz Ferdinand and cost the lives of forty million people.

And directly lead to World War Two, where another 70-85 million died.

Ethnonationlism, therefore, has been responsible for the deaths of over a hundred million people.
 
dcaraz said:
The police officer's actions are not part of professional law enforcement training. That is why many police commissioners in other cities have expressed their concerns
for the death which looks to many to be murder. But the legal issue aside, if the victim had been your brother would your dismissal of be so cold?
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I was incorrect in my assumptions. I'm glad the officer was arrested.
 
apdst said:
I'm exposing the lies. The biggest threat to a black person in The United States is another
black person.
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Actually the number one cause of death for black Americans is heart disease so that is actually the biggest threat.

Interesting that a black person such as yourself would lie and say other black people are more threatening to you than heart disease but maybe you think you are a threat to other black people?
 
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Atomic Kid said:
Have you ever stopped to consider that it is people like yourself that have TDS.? Have you stopped to consider why it is that so many people have a dislike for Trump? I mean really if he is incapable of uniting the country in a crisis like the one we are involved in now. With over 100,000 Americans dead in just 4 months, 40 million unemployed and economy in shambles. When or how would he ever be able to do so? How incompetent does a president have to be to not be able to bring the country together in a time like this? If he can't do it here, then frankly there isn't any scenario under which he could. Is that the kind of President we need now? Is that kind of President good for the country? What you're seeing now in the Covid-19 response and in Minneapolis is a product of that self-centered cultural wars and divisiveness.
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Yeah, and I have mentioned this frequently

much of it comes from the fact that they expected Trump to lose and cannot handle the fact that he won.
Some have legitimate arguments-if you are a big fan of judges who would ban guns, support unions, plaintiff's attorneys, abortion providers or gay rights agendas, then you have a legitimate dislike of Trump.
 
Peter King said:
So white riots are only riots when looting takes place? Hadn't heard that narrow description only for the word rioting. I am pretty sure it is a violent disturbance of the peace, even if no looting takes place.
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I was comparing the looters during the police brutality protests with the white demonstrators against lockdowns who caused garment soiling by those who whined that these protestors were packing heat.
 
PCB66 said:
In Chicago last Memorial Day weekend 20 Blacks were killed by other Blacks.

A few day ago an innocent Black kid was killed on the streets of Chicago by a Black gang member.

I didn't see any Moon Bat or Negro rioting and looting because of that Black on Black crime so excuse me if I don't get bent out of shape.

The Negroes in this country go on their rioting and looting rampages every few years or so. I have that seen that frequently since I was a teenager back in the 1960s. Meanwhile the tremendous Black on Black and Black on White violence in this country continues and the filthy Liberals and the brain dead Blacks don't say crap about it.
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If your neck had been under that cop's knee, you wouldn't have appreciated it one bit. Nobody should be getting paid a salary by taxpayers to behave that way.

When you talk the way you do, you're saying that some people's lives aren't worth anything. In which case, what's the point of having a constitution at all?

Do you even care about the law, or the idea that nobody's above the law? Nobody should have a license to arbitrarily murder people.
 
truthatallcost said:
This is a breaking story, so more info should be available in the coming hours.

We haven't had a race riot since Obama was in office. The majority of Trump's first term saw radical groups like Black Lives Matter fade into the background, as police department's use of body cameras helped protect the country from black rage.
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I understand the Minneapolis PD has a history of problems going back for years. Ask Amy Klobuchar, she was involved in a failure to prosecute Chauven years ago.
 
Excon said:
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You are seeing what you want to see, not reality.
He was not smirking.
He did not have his hands in his pockets.
This wasn't blatant or deliberate wrong doing, let alone brutality.
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Police, experts condemn knee restraint used on George Floyd

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THIS is reality. It is blatant, it is brutal, it is illegal and he has been arrested and charged with murder and manslaughter. Deal with it.
 
americanwoman said:
Actually the number one cause of death for black Americans is heart disease so that is actually the biggest threat.

Interesting that a black person such as yourself would lie and say other black people are more threatening to you than heart disease but maybe you think you are a threat to other black people?
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I'm referring to killings, not deaths from medical conditions, or natural causes. But, you knew that.
 
dcaraz said:
Despite your point, THIS vicious cop's actions were not justified. If that had happened to anyone in my neighborhood, community, or county, those 4 cops would have been arrested.
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His actions were criminal. But, cops get a little more benefit of the doubt than civilians and rightfully so.
 
Linc said:
I don’t want to keep repeating, but these are perilous times for years to come. Covid has completely disrupted the lives of just about every person in such a way that we really are in a new time era, what I call The Zoonotic Era.

We’d be stressed even if we were working together politically. The internet and 24/7 cable have made this a quantum leap worse. Now add these latest riots as we head into two very HOT weekends.

I got my covid swabs today for a procedure Monday. First time I’ve been out in three months. I’m old at 66. I’m not scared for myself, but for the younger generations. While the rhetoric must be dialed back by everyone, I just don’t see it happening. Better times are not ahead. Sorrow
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Okay, I have to ask: How horrible was the long Q-Tip up your nose?
 
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