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WH and DOJ Officials Discussed Mueller Report Before Release

chuckiechan said:
Then when the republicans do it to you, you will be cool with it. Did you notice Beto is gone with a bit of dox’ing, and Buttigeg is now the MSM’s darling, and Bernie is being shielded from bad press because he can’t win against the democrat swamp. The Republicans have picked Joe Biden for you because he is up to his ass in Ukraine (thanks Manafort), and up to his ass in shady Chinese deals. And you are being manipulated to ignore it.
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Irrelevant to anythign I've posted. Please try again.
The surveillance state screws everyone. (Print the above and see how accurate I am after the DNC convention).
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Irrelevant to anything I've posted. Please try agian.
The republican’s deep state is managing your campaign using analytics and planting phony stories.
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"The FBI conducting legal and necessary investigations"

Duh.
 
Risky Thicket said:
You said:



I replied, "Ethics and integrity"
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Of course you criticized The Tarmac Meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch as unethical, right? I'm sure there's a list as long as my arm where you criticized the ethics of your own party..... :roll:
 
Risky Thicket said:
That would fall under obstruction of justice. The answer is likely in the report. How will any of us - including Congress - know unless it isn't redacted?
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Who wrote the law about what's redacted in such reports? Was it Trump or Barr? Do you know how ridiculous all you lefties look?
 
Verax said:
It was clear when he refused to answer the question on whether the white house had seen the Mueller report. Are there any honorable Republicans today?
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Yes, there are actually quite a few of us left. We are called #NeverTrumpers.
 
American said:
Of course you criticized The Tarmac Meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch as unethical, right? I'm sure there's a list as long as my arm where you criticized the ethics of your own party..... :roll:
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So you're saying that Barr discussing the report with the White House was unethical.
 
Verax said:
It was clear when he refused to answer the question on whether the white house had seen the Mueller report. Are there any honorable Republicans today?
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The White House provided documents to the Special Counsel, this is an exchange within the executive branch provided by the President. Under law the White House has the option of executive privilege. The White House must by law be provided that option since the information came from the White House. They choose not to exercise that option. Of course democrats will somehow make this out to be a crime. Under the law it is not. It also is not improper to allow White House legal team to see what is in the report and determine if they wish to exercise executive privilege. What democrats don't seem to care about is how did the investigation originate, what was it based upon? Since Mueller says no collusion existed there could not have been evidence of it for the democrats to claim need for a special investigation.
 
American said:
Of course you criticized The Tarmac Meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch as unethical, right? I'm sure there's a list as long as my arm where you criticized the ethics of your own party..... :roll:
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Because Bill Clinton is no longer President, he is not a part of the US government. His wife is under investigation and Loretta Lynch is the AG. Yes, it is improper. The two things are not even close in circumstances.
 
Integrityrespec said:
Because Bill Clinton is no longer President, he is not a part of the US government. His wife is under investigation and Loretta Lynch is the AG. Yes, it is improper. The two things are not even close in circumstances.
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Can you share with me the rule that says it's improper for a private citizen to discuss an investigation with someone in charge of the investigation? And please also share the transcript of what Clinton and Lynch discussed that day?
 
Moon said:
The investigation is over. What did Trump control while Mueller’s team was doing its work?
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The orchestrated release by his flunky Barr who mischaracterized the report to falsely "exonerate" the President.
 
Cardinal said:
Of course, when it was first discussed that Barr had briefed the White House, republicans denied it. And why? No reason; just to kill time.
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Why wouldn’t they? They lie about literally everything else, to the point that it’s instinctual.
 
tres borrachos said:
So you're saying that Barr discussing the report with the White House was unethical.
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Wanna have fun? Ask a trump supporter why the Tarmac meeting was a problem. Yes, you and I know why it was a problem, but see if you can get them to explain why it was a problem.
 
Cardinal said:
Wanna have fun? Ask a trump supporter why the Tarmac meeting was a problem. Yes, you and I know why it was a problem, but see if you can get them to explain why it was a problem.
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I asked a few of them but they are oddly silent.

I also asked what pages in the report give all that evidence the insisted was forthcoming in the Mueller report about all of those terrible Americans, like Comey and McCabe and Obama and Clinton and everyone else. I'm not getting that either.

I am watching them jerk each other off, but that's just a little vacation from their usual activities of jerking themselves off while thinking about Donald Trump.
 
tres borrachos said:
I asked a few of them but they are oddly silent.

I also asked what pages in the report give all that evidence the insisted was forthcoming in the Mueller report about all of those terrible Americans, like Comey and McCabe and Obama and Clinton and everyone else. I'm not getting that either.

I am watching them jerk each other off, but that's just a little vacation from their usual activities of jerking themselves off while thinking about Donald Trump.
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They didn't answer because they don't know. They know that it's scandal-y, but they're not able to say why.
 
tres borrachos said:
So you're saying that Barr discussing the report with the White House was unethical.
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I don't think that's the way it works. From what I understand it works like this:

Hilary? BAD BAD BAD!!!

Mueller? BAD BAD BAD!!!

Trump? GOOD GOOD GOOD!!!


The rest is just Hannity, et al, telling them how to phrase it that day.
 
HumblePi said:
Peter Carr, who is Robert Mueller's spokesperson, just put out a statement ahead of tomorrow's press conference that Barr and Rosenstein are giving, that there will be no member of Mueller's team in attendance. Peter Carr will be there only because he handles the press on DOJ criminal matters.

Do you know what that means? It's like having a wedding and only the groom shows up, not the bride. Basically the Mueller team is not in agreement with what William Barr is trying to pull off.
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No, that is not what it is like. Mueller doesn't need anyone else there because Barr is not trying to pull anything.


HumblePi said:
Here's my take. William Barr, in his 4 page summary, had used only partial sentences out of the actual sentences by Mueller in the original report. In other words, he essentially cherry-picked and sanitized the results of the report which made them favorable for Trump of course.
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:lamo Nonsense.
1. Muller did not find any conspiracy with Russia and did not charge the President. That is a summery of his findings, not cherry picking.
2. Mueller did not reach the conclusion that the President obstructed justice either and thus no charges from him. That is also a summary of his findings and not cherry picking. Barr went further though and said he and Rosenstein looked at the available material and chose not to charge either.
My guess is that most leftists are going to illogically claim it is obstruction even thought there was no underlying crime to even begin obstructing an investigation.




What if...? said:
The difference here is his boss is the subject of the investigation Barr is reporting to him about.

It's unusual for a president to be a suspect, so it is reasonable to question whether Barr's actions are appropriate.
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You seem to forgot that the President was informed that he was not a criminal target, so there is nothing wrong with him being informed after the fact.
 
Risky Thicket said:
If you had doubts about Barr's integrity:
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Only those with TDS would think that is a reason to doubt his integrity.


Risky Thicket said:
I'm afraid there Republicans as we knew them are gone. Most of what we have now are Banana Republicans.
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That is what the Banana Democrats think.




Trippy Trekker said:
Imagine the prospect of trying to control the narrative long term when some of the people who don't like Chump and the Trumpanzees already have access to the full unredacted Mueller Report.

Barr, Chump and the other Trumpanzees collectively tasked with the mission to control the narrative face a very, very slippery slope! Tomorrow's unveiling only adds to the drama!

Viva the Anti-Trump Movement! Paranoia has struck deep inside the White House staff!
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Controlling the narrative?

iLOL

Mueller didn't charge the President with a crime, neither did Barr. That is the only controlling thing here that matters.




Saladin4 said:
A Redacted cover up...That is what that fat toad Barr is about to present
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Wrong as usual.

Did Mueller charge the President with a crime?
Did Mueller come forward and say Barr's summery of his conclusions were wrong?

Of course not.




OscarLevant said:
The only fair thing to do is just release the whole damn thing to everyone on the same day ( and release the unredacted version to the the appropriate committees in congress and the senate ) and let the proverbial chips fall where they may.


That is the right thing to do, but, no way is Barr going to do that.
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Wrong.

He has requirements he must follow.




iguanaman said:
Even a moron knows that the President cannot control an investigation of himself which is what Trump is attempting.
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Control an investigation about him?
iLOL Wrong.
That is not what is happening.
The investigation is over and Mueller clearly did not find or charge any collusion/conspiracy with the Russians to influence the election.
Nor did he decide that the President would be charged with obstruction which is very hard to do when there is no underlying crime in which to obstruct an investigation.



It wasn't an investigation of himself, nor did it turn into one as there was no collusion/conspiracy between the President and Russia to win the election.
 
Excon said:
Only those with TDS would think that is a reason to doubt his integrity. ...

Controlling the narrative?

iLOL...
Wrong as usual.

Did Mueller charge the President with a crime?
Did Mueller come forward and say Barr's summery of his conclusions were wrong? ...

Wrong.

He has requirements he must follow. ...

Control an investigation about him?
iLOL Wrong.
That is not what is happening.
The investigation is over and Mueller clearly did not find or charge any collusion/conspiracy with the Russians to influence the election.
Nor did he decide that the President would be charged with obstruction which is very hard to do when there is no underlying crime in which to obstruct an investigation.

It wasn't an investigation of himself, nor did it turn into one as there was no collusion/conspiracy between the President and Russia to win the election.
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I know, I know, an Open and Shut case... Wink Wink. I heard it on the News today. Kellyanne Conway described the mood in the White House as the Best Ever!
 
Trippy Trekker said:
Well if you think I didn't know about a party, I thought about driving over to Mara Lago later today!
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What's the difference between a chicken? Both feet are each the same.
 
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