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Democrats Formally Seek Six Years of Trump Tax Returns From IRS

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[h=1]Democrats Formally Seek Six Years of Trump Tax Returns From IRS[/h]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-03/democrats-formally-seek-six-years-of-trump-tax-returns-from-irs via @bpolitics


House Democrats on Wednesday formally demanded that the IRS turn over six years of personal and business tax returns for President Donald Trump, setting the stage for a clash with the White House and in the courts.
Ways and Means Chairman Richard Neal sent a letter to Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Charles Rettig, citing Congress’s oversight responsibility to review the president’s business activities before and during his first term.

“We must obtain President Trump’s tax returns and review whether the IRS is carrying out its responsibilities,” Neal said. “The committee has a duty to examine whether congressional action may be needed to require such audits, and to oversee that they are conducted properly.”
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Six years of tax returns are being requested, even though tax returns are subject to IRS audit going back ten years in time, six years is the statute of limitations for criminally filing a false income tax return. There is no subpoena necessary issued to IRS for this information. According to the testimony given by Michael Cohen in February, Trump's taxes were not under audit as he said they were. This was the argument he had given for not releasing his tax returns.
 
HumblePi said:
[h=1]Democrats Formally Seek Six Years of Trump Tax Returns From IRS[/h]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-03/democrats-formally-seek-six-years-of-trump-tax-returns-from-irs via @bpolitics


House Democrats on Wednesday formally demanded that the IRS turn over six years of personal and business tax returns for President Donald Trump, setting the stage for a clash with the White House and in the courts.
Ways and Means Chairman Richard Neal sent a letter to Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Charles Rettig, citing Congress’s oversight responsibility to review the president’s business activities before and during his first term.

“We must obtain President Trump’s tax returns and review whether the IRS is carrying out its responsibilities,” Neal said. “The committee has a duty to examine whether congressional action may be needed to require such audits, and to oversee that they are conducted properly.”
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Six years of tax returns are being requested, even though tax returns are subject to IRS audit going back ten years in time, six years is the statute of limitations for criminally filing a false income tax return. There is no subpoena necessary issued to IRS for this information.
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The day DJT feared most has finally arrived.

And, yes, the law is on the Neal's side and in some context, he will win in getting at least a large portion of the returns.
 
I agree. Trump said that he couldn't release them because there was an audit, which makes no sense. Audits don't preclude public release. In any case, the phantom audit must be over by now. The IRS doesn't take years to conduct an audit.

He then said he would release them after the election. We should have asked, how long after the election?

Well, Congress has a right to see these returns in order to fulfill their oversight authority in to answer whether Trump is compromised.

New York State could also be asked to provide NYS tax returns.
 
MovingPictures said:
The day DJT feared most has finally arrived.

And, yes, the law is on the Neal's side and in some context, he will win in getting at least a large portion of the returns.
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There's a lot of information that can be gleaned from those recent tax returns including whether or not he or anyone in his family has profited off the office of the president in conflict with emoluments clause. Under oath, Michael Cohen also made implications that Trump committed insurance fraud and tax fraud.
 
HumblePi said:
Under oath, Michael Cohen also made implications that Trump committed insurance fraud and tax fraud.
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Bearing in mind that under oath, Conehead has lied.
 
HumblePi said:
[h=1]Democrats Formally Seek Six Years of Trump Tax Returns From IRS[/h]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-03/democrats-formally-seek-six-years-of-trump-tax-returns-from-irs via @bpolitics


House Democrats on Wednesday formally demanded that the IRS turn over six years of personal and business tax returns for President Donald Trump, setting the stage for a clash with the White House and in the courts.
Ways and Means Chairman Richard Neal sent a letter to Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Charles Rettig, citing Congress’s oversight responsibility to review the president’s business activities before and during his first term.

“We must obtain President Trump’s tax returns and review whether the IRS is carrying out its responsibilities,” Neal said. “The committee has a duty to examine whether congressional action may be needed to require such audits, and to oversee that they are conducted properly.”
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Six years of tax returns are being requested, even though tax returns are subject to IRS audit going back ten years in time, six years is the statute of limitations for criminally filing a false income tax return. There is no subpoena necessary issued to IRS for this information. According to the testimony given by Michael Cohen in February, Trump's taxes were not under audit as he said they were. This was the argument he had given for not releasing his tax returns.
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Let the court and public opinion battles commence.

By the time the court battles end, Trump would probably be either out of office, having lost in 2020 or starting his 2nd term. That or the Dems will have lost control of the House for being asswipes since they took power.
 
Roadvirus said:
Bearing in mind that under oath, Conehead has lied.
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That was true before he plead guilty to lying and was punished with prison time for doing so. His testimony was highly scrutinized for any lies he may have told and were carefully verified by other testimonies from other witnesses in the SDNY cases.

One thing examination of taxes will prove, either he did something illegal or he did not. It will be cut and dry and nothing debatable as to whether he did or not. As they say, the proof is in the pudding and the pudding in this case are his income tax returns.
 
Not sure what took Neal so long, but okey doke.

Next comes the subpoena, then the months-long court battle, then Nadler most likely wins.
 
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Roadvirus said:
Let the court and public opinion battles commence.

By the time the court battles end, Trump would probably be either out of office, having lost in 2020 or starting his 2nd term. That or the Dems will have lost control of the House for being asswipes since they took power.
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I don't know if "Crime shopping" of an elected official, or anyone else is legal except through confidential audits by the IRS. The intent is to get the forms, then selectively leak. I don't see any due process in that.
 
Roadvirus said:
Let the court and public opinion battles commence.

By the time the court battles end, Trump would probably be either out of office, having lost in 2020 or starting his 2nd term. That or the Dems will have lost control of the House for being asswipes since they took power.
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But the dark shadows on his credibility and even racketeering will be lurking out there and that's definitely going to pull a lot of support away from him. It may be the ruination of his re-election. The Democrats may just win the Senate back in addition to the office of the president.
 
HumblePi said:
[h=1]Democrats Formally Seek Six Years of Trump Tax Returns From IRS[/h]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-03/democrats-formally-seek-six-years-of-trump-tax-returns-from-irs via @bpolitics


House Democrats on Wednesday formally demanded that the IRS turn over six years of personal and business tax returns for President Donald Trump, setting the stage for a clash with the White House and in the courts.
Ways and Means Chairman Richard Neal sent a letter to Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Charles Rettig, citing Congress’s oversight responsibility to review the president’s business activities before and during his first term.

“We must obtain President Trump’s tax returns and review whether the IRS is carrying out its responsibilities,” Neal said. “The committee has a duty to examine whether congressional action may be needed to require such audits, and to oversee that they are conducted properly.”
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Six years of tax returns are being requested, even though tax returns are subject to IRS audit going back ten years in time, six years is the statute of limitations for criminally filing a false income tax return. There is no subpoena necessary issued to IRS for this information. According to the testimony given by Michael Cohen in February, Trump's taxes were not under audit as he said they were. This was the argument he had given for not releasing his tax returns.
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I think those Dems might have a hard time justifying getting returns for years prior to Trump becoming President. They don't have oversight responsibilities over private citizens.

btw, that bloomburg link you gave says the page is missing.
 
Suppose they find “something” in 2013 or 2014 that could be considered fraud, or some other violation of the tax law. Would/should Congress move to impeach?
 
MTAtech said:
I agree. Trump said that he couldn't release them because there was an audit, which makes no sense. Audits don't preclude public release. In any case, the phantom audit must be over by now. The IRS doesn't take years to conduct an audit.

He then said he would release them after the election. We should have asked, how long after the election?

Well, Congress has a right to see these returns in order to fulfill their oversight authority in to answer whether Trump is compromised.

New York State could also be asked to provide NYS tax returns.
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He’s still claiming he’s under audit!! Bahaha


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Mycroft said:
I think those Dems might have a hard time justifying getting returns for years prior to Trump becoming President. They don't have oversight responsibilities over private citizens.

btw, that bloomburg link you gave says the page is missing.
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The link is bad, but you can get to the article from Bloomberg’s home page.
 
HumblePi said:
[h=1]Democrats Formally Seek Six Years of Trump Tax Returns From IRS[/h]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-03/democrats-formally-seek-six-years-of-trump-tax-returns-from-irs via @bpolitics


House Democrats on Wednesday formally demanded that the IRS turn over six years of personal and business tax returns for President Donald Trump, setting the stage for a clash with the White House and in the courts.
Ways and Means Chairman Richard Neal sent a letter to Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Charles Rettig, citing Congress’s oversight responsibility to review the president’s business activities before and during his first term.

“We must obtain President Trump’s tax returns and review whether the IRS is carrying out its responsibilities,” Neal said. “The committee has a duty to examine whether congressional action may be needed to require such audits, and to oversee that they are conducted properly.”
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Six years of tax returns are being requested, even though tax returns are subject to IRS audit going back ten years in time, six years is the statute of limitations for criminally filing a false income tax return. There is no subpoena necessary issued to IRS for this information. According to the testimony given by Michael Cohen in February, Trump's taxes were not under audit as he said they were. This was the argument he had given for not releasing his tax returns.
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Well, we'll find out if Mnuchin is willing to faithfully execute the law.

I don't have a lot of faith that he will, given his history of being a disgusting lickspittle and waste of human flesh.
 
Mycroft said:
I think those Dems might have a hard time justifying getting returns for years prior to Trump becoming President. They don't have oversight responsibilities over private citizens.

btw, that bloomburg link you gave says the page is missing.
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Given that Trump was a private citizen when he was elected and given his history he should release his taxes. Previous presidents who were politicians have complied and he certainly should comply.
 
Mycroft said:
I think those Dems might have a hard time justifying getting returns for years prior to Trump becoming President. They don't have oversight responsibilities over private citizens.

btw, that bloomburg link you gave says the page is missing.
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Sorry, but they are the United States Congress and those powers endowed to them supersedes that of any private citizen.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Well, we'll find out if Mnuchin is willing to faithfully execute the law.

I don't have a lot of faith that he will, given his history of being a disgusting lickspittle and waste of human flesh.
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Mnuchin will hand it over right away if he’s eager to learn about his firing by tweet while he’s on the can tomorrow.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Well, we'll find out if Mnuchin is willing to faithfully execute the law.

I don't have a lot of faith that he will, given his history of being a disgusting lickspittle and waste of human flesh.
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He's a shape-shifting greedy lizard.
 
That's a broken link.
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

This is truly embarrassing. There's no legitimate reason for this. The powers given to our government should not be used as a political weapon. It is probably going to come back to hurt Democrats.
 
Cardinal said:
Mnuchin will hand it over right away if he’s eager to learn about his firing by tweet while he’s on the can tomorrow.
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:lamo :2rofll::moon:
 
Que the inevitable stupid debate on “What about PRIVACY??!!” and “Congress doesn’t have the authority to demand his tax returns.”

Pass.
 
dcsports said:
That's a broken link.
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

This is truly embarrassing. There's no legitimate reason for this. The powers given to our government should not be used as a political weapon. It is probably going to come back to hurt Democrats.
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Either it will come back to hurt Democrats or it will show what a low-down despicable lying racketeering piece of dirt Trump really is.
 
HumblePi said:
Six years of tax returns are being requested, even though tax returns are subject to IRS audit going back ten years in time, six years is the statute of limitations for criminally filing a false income tax return. There is no subpoena necessary issued to IRS for this information. According to the testimony given by Michael Cohen in February, Trump's taxes were not under audit as he said they were. This was the argument he had given for not releasing his tax returns.
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4.8.4 Mandatory Review | Internal Revenue Service


4.8.4.2.5 (03-12-2015)
Audit of President and Vice President
The individual tax returns for the President and the Vice President are subject to mandatory review and will be closed directly to the "employee audit reviewer" in Baltimore Technical Services. See IRM 4.2.1.11 (8). The “Other” box in the “Forward to Technical Services” section of Form 3198 must be checked and the examiner should notate “President (or Vice President) Examination; Forward to Baltimore Technical Services.” The examining area will notify the group manager for the Baltimore Technical Services when the return is being shipped. Baltimore Technical Services will provide advance notice to Memphis Centralized Case Processing (CCP), "Miscellaneous Group" , when the return is being closed.
The location of the returns of the President and Vice President will be monitored at all times throughout the examination process.
The returns should be kept in an orange folder at all times.
The returns should not be exposed to viewing by other employees.
The returns should be locked in a secure drawer or cabinet when the examiner i


Yes they are UNDER Audit. Since he was president. With that I am almost 100% sure he was audited many times before.

1) Im sure he was audited before and if the IRS has never Caught him for Federal Charges.... What do you think he is doing for the last 3 years?
2) YES IT IS FACTUALLY UNDER AUDIT NOW and its MANDATORY Period.


What do you think releasing his taxes with that the last 6 years will do but piss people off .... Trumps tweet yesterday day. NOTHING will ever be enough
 
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