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"I am not for impeachment," Pelosi says, potentially roiling fellow Democrats

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akyron said:
This is a solid indictment of our education system.
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So if someone isn't on board with your conspiracies, you assume their education is the problem?
 
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OscarLevant said:
Lotta talk, usual alt-right tropes, not seeing anything compelling here.

In the meantime.

You make claims, you back them up.

That's courtesy.
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Passports are evidence. Obama visited Pakistan in 1981 but it was not possible he traveled on an American passport. He used either a British or an Indonesian passport. Passports can reveal truths, if they are even looked at. Michael Cohen never visited Prague in spite of the Steele document's lying key claim to the contrary. Cohen said he never visited Prague. His lawyer said he never visited Prague. Congressional investigators said he never visited Prague. Mueller never proved he visited Prague. Hillary's anti-Trump fake Russian dossier was lying and millions of people have been duped by the queen of lies with her attempted subversion and overthrow of the 2016 election.

CNN Politics did a story on Feb 27, 2019, titled Cohen says he's never been to Prague. Here's why that matters. Be courteous yourself and look it up.
 
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Airyaman said:
These are starting points, said so in my post.
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Ah...hiding already are we? OK.

Airyaman said:
I have not been keeping a running tally. Someone else might be on it: Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
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Bloomberg?
:lamo


Airyaman said:
Nothing to do with Mueller, unless it is Russia related.
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Russia related?
NOW you think you can separate all the unrelated crap Meuller's investigated, so you can try to justify little Adam's congressional temper tantrum?
What a hypocrite.


The rest of your post is just silly...so I'll ignore it.
 
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AliHajiSheik said:
Note the conditions in MY comment: "At the rate she is going, she won't be Speaker come the end of this Congress anyway."
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OK, so she hasn't pre-determined a course of action, and she's currently at a roughly 0% risk of losing the Speaker's job. I agree.
 
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marke said:
Passports are evidence. Obama visited Pakistan in 1981 but it was not possible he traveled on an American passport. He used either a British or an Indonesian passport. Passports can reveal truths, if they are even looked at. Michael Cohen never visited Prague in spite of the Steele document's lying key claim to the contrary. Cohen said he never visited Prague. His lawyer said he never visited Prague. Congressional investigators said he never visited Prague. Mueller never proved he visited Prague. Hillary's anti-Trump fake Russian dossier was lying and millions of people have been duped by the queen of lies with her attempted subversion and overthrow of the 2016 election.

CNN Politics did a story on Feb 27, 2019, titled Cohen says he's never been to Prague. Here's why that matters. Be courteous yourself and look it up.
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WHY wasn't it possible for Barack Obama to have used a US passport when he visited Pakistan in 1981?

Cell phone signal puts Cohen outside Prague around time of purported Russian meeting Yes, Cohen did once again say he had never visited Prague during his latest testimony before a Congressional committee. The question then becomes - Did he loan his phone to someone for a trip into Prague, Czech Republic?
 
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marke said:
Passports are evidence. Obama visited Pakistan in 1981 but it was not possible he traveled on an American passport. He used either a British or an Indonesian passport. Passports can reveal truths, if they are even looked at. Michael Cohen never visited Prague in spite of the Steele document's lying key claim to the contrary. Cohen said he never visited Prague. His lawyer said he never visited Prague. Congressional investigators said he never visited Prague. Mueller never proved he visited Prague. Hillary's anti-Trump fake Russian dossier was lying and millions of people have been duped by the queen of lies with her attempted subversion and overthrow of the 2016 election.

CNN Politics did a story on Feb 27, 2019, titled Cohen says he's never been to Prague. Here's why that matters. Be courteous yourself and look it up.
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I see type on a computer page, BUT NOT EVIDENCE.

You make a claim, YOU BACK IT UP. That's how it works. What, you born yesterday?

The Dossier was offered as raw intelligence, not evidence. Harping on a thing or two that isn't confirmable is making a lot of hay out of not very much straw, the point being that Steele didn't expect everything in the dossier to be accurate. in other words, if Cohen didn't go to Prague, IT DOESN'T ****ING MATTER. If there is a russian conspiracy, and I did say "IF", ( don't have a conniption ) it won't depend on that fact, there will be a lot more.

Get over it.


But, here is what matters, and what matters has been PROVEN to be true

The Dossier said Russia was hacking the DNC and Dems.

Now that is something that matters, and you're harping on something that is of NO CONSQUENCE to that fact.


I repeat, seem you seem to forget pertinent facts:

The Dossier was offered as raw intelligence, not evidence.

The Dossier was offered as raw intelligence, not evidence.

The Dossier was offered as raw intelligence, not evidence.

Get it in your head.

And, if there is no conspiracy, IT STILL DOESN'T MATTER

Because SDNY is looking at crimes surrounding Trump, and what are the odds they are going to find a TON of bad really bad **** this man has been doing and doing to people for decades?

What are the odds?

Many of his aids/staff, etc. are going to jail. What are the odds numero uno has committed boatloads of crimes?

Hmmmm?
 
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Oborosen said:
Yes, I would say covering one's ass would be the wise choice in all of this.
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Well, if you are betting on Trump for wise choices, don't. The least wise choice Trump ever made was running for president, and becoming president.

Speaking of asses, Trump's getting so wide I don't anything can cover it.
 
No impeachment? Because next year is the democrats hope. I hope that everyone that are scared to show up and have a conversation should show up and vote!
 
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Somerville said:
WHY wasn't it possible for Barack Obama to have used a US passport when he visited Pakistan in 1981?

Cell phone signal puts Cohen outside Prague around time of purported Russian meeting Yes, Cohen did once again say he had never visited Prague during his latest testimony before a Congressional committee. The question then becomes - Did he loan his phone to someone for a trip into Prague, Czech Republic?
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Liars will say anything. One liar may say he never traveled to Prague and another liar may say a cell phone ping was obtained showing a man visited Prague. Mueller would have nailed Cohen if he had proof Cohen had traveled to Prague, but Mueller did not, proving the ping caller was lying. All Mueller has to do is check passport records, never mind the unsubstantiated claims of cell phone pings. I'm sure Mueller checked. He is not stupid and he has had more than 2 years to check some of these key things out. Cohen never went to Prague and the dossier was lying.

All Obama had to do was produce his passport records to silence critics who said he did not travel to Pakistan on a US visa in 1981.
 
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OscarLevant said:
I see type on a computer page, BUT NOT EVIDENCE.
You make a claim, YOU BACK IT UP. That's how it works. What, you born yesterday?

The Dossier was offered as raw intelligence, not evidence. Harping on a thing or two that isn't confirmable is making a lot of hay out of not very much straw, the point being that Steele didn't expect everything in the dossier to be accurate. in other words, if Cohen didn't go to Prague, IT DOESN'T ****ING MATTER. If there is a russian conspiracy, and I did say "IF", ( don't have a conniption ) it won't depend on that fact, there will be a lot more.
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Hillary hired Glenn Simpson to come up with something with which to throw at Trump in order to give her an advantage in the 2016 election. Glenn Simpson hired Christopher Steele to come up with the dossier that Steele, Comey, McCabe, Lisa Page, and others said was unverified (i.e., the dossier was not true.) Crooked Trump-haters in the DOJ hid the truth about the dossier from the FISA court when they used it to illegally obtain warrants to spy on Trump. The facts are finally starting to come out. We have Lisa Page's testimony and now Peter Strzok's testimony which reveal the crooked operations behind the exoneration of Hillary for crimes she committed and the institution of an investigation into Trump for crimes he did not commit.
 
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marke said:
Hillary hired Glenn Simpson to come up with something with which to throw at Trump in order to give her an advantage in the 2016 election. Glenn Simpson hired Christopher Steele to come up with the dossier that Steele, Comey, McCabe, Lisa Page, and others said was unverified (i.e., the dossier was not true.) Crooked Trump-haters in the DOJ hid the truth about the dossier from the FISA court when they used it to illegally obtain warrants to spy on Trump. The facts are finally starting to come out. We have Lisa Page's testimony and now Peter Strzok's testimony which reveal the crooked operations behind the exoneration of Hillary for crimes she committed and the institution of an investigation into Trump for crimes he did not commit.
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Wow! You continue to post comments without support and deny the fact that much of what you claim has been shown to be untrue. I must ask Why?

"Hillary hired Glenn Simpson" Prove it

Actually it was Fusion Inc. which hired Christopher Steele

Provide the links in which "Steele, Comey, McCabe, Lisa Page, and others said (the dossier) was unverified" Unverified does not mean "not true"

"Crooked Trump haters" did not use the Steele dossier and nothing else to obtain the first FISA warrant on Carter Page - AFTER Page had left the Trump campaign.

We do not have Strzok and Lisa Page's testimony verifying any "crooked operations". If you think we do, provide the quotes and page numbers of the transcripts.

Personally, i don't think you can find any support other than your favored websites. I've read thru Strzok's testimony and failed to find support for the words posted in a Fox News story.

The purpose of an investigation is to determine the truth or falsity of claims made about persons or institutions. What we do know at this time is the fact that multiple Trump associates have admitted their guilt. Others who have been indicted are not Americans and at least one American corporation owned by a "sovereign government" is fighting Mueller in the court in an effort to avoid turning over documents.
 
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OscarLevant said:
Well, if you are betting on Trump for wise choices, don't. The least wise choice Trump ever made was running for president, and becoming president.

Speaking of asses, Trump's getting so wide I don't anything can cover it.
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Couldn't muster a point. But you damn well come up with an insult... that's about all that you leftist can do these days isn't it?

Wait that's a rhetorical question... that is all you can actually do.
 
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Somerville said:
Wow! You continue to post comments without support and deny the fact that much of what you claim has been shown to be untrue. I must ask Why?

"Hillary hired Glenn Simpson" Prove it

Actually it was Fusion Inc. which hired Christopher Steele

Provide the links in which "Steele, Comey, McCabe, Lisa Page, and others said (the dossier) was unverified" Unverified does not mean "not true"

"Crooked Trump haters" did not use the Steele dossier and nothing else to obtain the first FISA warrant on Carter Page - AFTER Page had left the Trump campaign.

We do not have Strzok and Lisa Page's testimony verifying any "crooked operations". If you think we do, provide the quotes and page numbers of the transcripts.

Personally, i don't think you can find any support other than your favored websites. I've read thru Strzok's testimony and failed to find support for the words posted in a Fox News story.

The purpose of an investigation is to determine the truth or falsity of claims made about persons or institutions. What we do know at this time is the fact that multiple Trump associates have admitted their guilt. Others who have been indicted are not Americans and at least one American corporation owned by a "sovereign government" is fighting Mueller in the court in an effort to avoid turning over documents.
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You might be safer to wait for the rest of the truth to come out before defending story lines which are not true.
 
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Mongidig said:
So she is smart but AOC, Talib, Omar are dumb? I know, they are new. Let them get through orientation first.

Pelosi is at least being an adult and recognizes that impeachment would be very divisive and bad for the country. The rest of your filthy party don't care about their country.
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That's the core issue, this acknowledgement it really would be divisive.
 
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Oborosen said:
Couldn't muster a point. But you damn well come up with an insult... that's about all that you leftist can do these days isn't it?

Wait that's a rhetorical question... that is all you can actually do.
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That's cute, coming from someone who backs a traitor, sex predator and a deadbeat.
 
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OscarLevant said:
That's cute, coming from someone who backs a traitor, sex predator and a deadbeat.
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Yeah.. going to need citations on all of that. Oh that's right, I've asked for that same crap from leftist like you before and got nothing but the same empty, blow-hard crap as always.
 
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marke said:
You might be safer to wait for the rest of the truth to come out before defending story lines which are not true.
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This is hilarious - accusing me of "defending story lines which are not true" when you are unable to find backup for any of your claims.

Once again with added emphasis

"Hillary hired Glenn Simpson" Prove it Actually, it was Fusion Inc. which hired Christopher Steele

Provide the links in which "Steele, Comey, McCabe, Lisa Page, and others said (the dossier) was unverified" Unverified does not mean "not true"

"Crooked Trump haters" did not use the Steele dossier and nothing else to obtain the first FISA warrant on Carter Page - AFTER Page had left the Trump campaign.

We do not have Strzok and Lisa Page's testimony verifying any "crooked operations". If you think we do, provide the quotes and page numbers of the transcripts.

Personally, i don't think you can find any support other than your favored websites. I've read thru Strzok's testimony and failed to find support for the words posted in a Fox News story. I could be wrong but for some reason, tRump minions haven't provided evidence.

The purpose of an investigation is to determine the truth or falsity of claims made about persons or institutions. What we do know at this time is the fact that multiple Trump associates have admitted their guilt. Others who have been indicted are not Americans and at least one American corporation owned by a "sovereign government" is fighting Mueller in the court in an effort to avoid turning over documents.
 
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OscarLevant said:
That's cute, coming from someone who backs a traitor, sex predator and a deadbeat.
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Oborosen said:
Yeah.. going to need citations on all of that. Oh that's right, I've asked for that same crap from leftist like you before and got nothing but the same empty, blow-hard crap as always.
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Is tRump a traitor? Maybe, but at this time we don't know. It is being investigated; however, two guys who know more about constitutional law than you or I, Lawrence Tribe and Joshua Matz, have laid out their thoughts on the matter.
The evidence of sketchy interactions with Russia during the election is now much stronger; his assaults on the Russia investigation have continued apace; and Trump’s financial entanglements with hostile powers have cast a pall of corruption over key foreign policy judgments.
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Is tRump a sex predator? 23 women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct

Is tRump a deadbeat, a man who has refused to pay those who have done work for him? A brief history of Trump's small-time swindles
After putting in long hours for a special event at Trump National Doral, a Miami resort, 48 servers had to sue for unpaid overtime. The settlements averaged around $800 per worker, but went as high as $3,000 in one case. On top of that, a paint shop owner named Juan Carlos Enriquez also sued Trump's business, claiming he never got the final payment for a paint shipment to the same resort. In 2017, after a three-year legal fight, a court found in Enriquez's favor, and ordered Trump's company to pay the final $32,000, plus $300,000 in legal fees.
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Back to Tribe and Matz' opinion column
Recently, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi threw cold water on calls for immediate removal proceedings. “Impeachment,” she warned, “is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path, because it divides the country.” This is a wise political and constitutional judgment—for now.
(. . .)
In light of events since May 2018, we now believe that two more potential “high Crimes and Misdemeanors” warrant investigation. But we also believe that both of them involve a number of under-appreciated complexities that require further reflection.

The first such offense is corrupt failure to defend the United States—and its electoral system—against domestic operations launched by a hostile foreign power. As Bob Bauer has written on Lawfare, “Trump is misleading the American people about the very fact of Russia’s actions and, according to intelligence officials, Russia’s plans to press [its] attacks in the future. He has declined to vigorously lead in defending against these assaults: He is virtually flaunting his unwillingness to do so.”
(. . .)
Viewing Trump’s conduct as a whole, we see a sustained disregard for the law—and a willingness to use his wealth in illegal ways while buying silence from those who might harm his political fortunes with the truth.
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Somerville said:
Is tRump a traitor? Maybe, but at this time we don't know. It is being investigated; however, two guys who know more about constitutional law than you or I, Lawrence Tribe and Joshua Matz, have laid out their thoughts on the matter.

Is tRump a sex predator? 23 women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct

Is tRump a deadbeat, a man who has refused to pay those who have done work for him? A brief history of Trump's small-time swindles

Back to Tribe and Matz' opinion column
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So no, he's not a traitor, a sexual predator, or a deadbeat...?

That's a lot of text to not actually get around to proving anything at this point.
 
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Oborosen said:
So no, he's not a traitor, a sexual predator, or a deadbeat...?

That's a lot of text to not actually get around to proving anything at this point.
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And your few words are not much of a rejoinder - not unexpected.
 
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Somerville said:
And your few words are not much of a rejoinder - not unexpected.
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I only returned as much was actually offered. Had something with substance been supplied. A more filling post would've been warranted. But no, I got half a minute of reading to see the same nonsensical claims and diversions, were still just that.

Nonsensical claims and diversions.
 
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Oborosen said:
Originally Posted by OscarLevant
That's cute, coming from someone who backs a traitor, sex predator and a deadbeat.
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Yeah.. going to need citations on all of that. Oh that's right, I've asked for that same crap from leftist like you before and got nothing but the same empty, blow-hard crap as always.
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Oborosen said:
So no, he's not a traitor, a sexual predator, or a deadbeat...?

That's a lot of text to not actually get around to proving anything at this point.
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My post #218, elicited this response, despite the links provided. This is a public debate forum not a court of law, I provided publically available information which does not by legal standards "prove" anything but does, or should, cause a person to think before responding in mindless-follower manner.

Oborosen said:
I only returned as much was actually offered. Had something with substance been supplied. A more filling post would've been warranted. But no, I got half a minute of reading to see the same nonsensical claims and diversions, were still just that.

Nonsensical claims and diversions.
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Any reader note that first we have "That's a lot of text. . ." followed by "I got half a minute of reading". One might come to think that some people's brains are riding a boat down the Nile.

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Somerville said:
My post #218, elicited this response, despite the links provided. This is a public debate forum not a court of law, I provided publically available information which does not by legal standards "prove" anything but does, or should, cause a person to think before responding in mindless-follower manner.



Any reader note that first we have "That's a lot of text. . ." followed by "I got half a minute of reading". One might come to think that some people's brains are riding a boat down the Nile.
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If a meme is all you have, then you're severely ill-prepared for any kind of debate.
 
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Oborosen said:
If a meme is all you have, then you're severely ill-prepared for any kind of debate.
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I'm sorry that you are unable to read posts on earlier pages in this thread but . . . when the meme fits

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Somerville said:
I'm sorry that you are unable to read posts on earlier pages in this thread but . . . when the meme fits

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I recognize your inability to actually have an intelligent conversation.

Good luck in whatever endeavor you're actually capable of. Because I've since stopped caring for this stupidity of yours.
 
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