• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

TYT's Cenk asks media, 'Are you doing your job AT ALL?'

Dans La Lune

Do you read Sutter Cane?
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 30, 2019
Messages
15,444
Reaction score
10,384
Location
Hobbs End
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Socialist
From Buttigieg's scandal in South Bend, to Biden's horrendous record, Cenk asks the MSM, 'Are you doing your job at all? AT ALL?'

It's not about slamming centrists, which I love to do, it's about putting everything on the table so that voters can make an informed choice during the primaries. Protecting Dems during the primaries is a terrible idea, I don't care if it's Biden or Sanders or Gandhi. This stuff will come out during the election if any of these guys are the nominee. Then what? Right, then we're stuck and either holding our collective noses or sitting out the election. Out of curiosity, how does collective nose-holding motivate turn out? Meanwhile, Trump supporters will jump out of a 10-story window to cast their vote.

 
From Buttigieg's scandal in South Bend, to Biden's horrendous record, Cenk asks the MSM, 'Are you doing your job at all? AT ALL?'

It's not about slamming centrists, which I love to do, it's about putting everything on the table so that voters can make an informed choice during the primaries. Protecting Dems during the primaries is a terrible idea, I don't care if it's Biden or Sanders or Gandhi. This stuff will come out during the election if any of these guys are the nominee. Then what? Right, then we're stuck and either holding our collective noses or sitting out the election. Out of curiosity, how does collective nose-holding motivate turn out? Meanwhile, Trump supporters will jump out of a 10-story window to cast their vote.



Mayor Pete, the establishment darling.

Yay!
 
Cenk is the personification of the Left eating their own. This is not to say Pete or Biden are above critique, but TYT has a weird obsession with Pete just because he isn’t ‘progressive enough.’
 
Mayor Pete, the establishment darling.

Yay!

Perhaps because people have been drawn in by his seductive obscurantism combined with his even-keeled approach over the tub-thumpers like Beto O'Rourke or Bernie Sanders. By all accounts, the man's political positions appear to be solidly left.
 
Last edited:
Cenk is the personification of the Left eating their own. This is not to say Pete or Biden are above critique, but TYT has a weird obsession with Pete just because he isn’t ‘progressive enough.’

I really do not see why. By all accounts, the man appears to be solidly on the Left when his actual political positions are examined. Perhaps it is because he prefers to maintain the affect of moderation versus the substance?
 
Perhaps because people have been drawn in by his seductive obscurantism. By all accounts, the man appears to be solidly left.

He's a corporatist, and that's all.
 
Cenk is the personification of the Left eating their own. This is not to say Pete or Biden are above critique, but TYT has a weird obsession with Pete just because he isn’t ‘progressive enough.’

Um, no. Have you looked into the South Bend issues? Are you comfortable with Mayor Pete after examining them?
 
The fact that people don't seem to understand what went down in South Bend is certification of Cenk's frustration with the media.
 
I really do not see why. By all accounts, the man appears to be solidly on the Left when his actual political positions are examined. Perhaps it is because he prefers to maintain the affect of moderation versus the substance?

It is for two main reasons: He is for public option and he isn’t as anti-interventionism as Gabbard or Bernie. I don’t agree with Pete on everything, but I understand his pragmatism over idealism.
 
The fact that people don't seem to understand what went down in South Bend is certification of Cenk's frustration with the media.

What went down was a racist shakedown and a cover up that is aiding and abetting Mayor Pete and his corruption.
 
That being defined as what, Obscurity?

Taking money from corporations so that policy is heavily tilted toward the interest of corporations rather than the interest of the American people. At least that's the definition I'm using.
 
It is for two main reasons: He is for public option and he isn’t as anti-interventionism as Gabbard or Bernie. I don’t agree with Pete on everything, but I understand his pragmatism over idealism.

Pete has issues. What happened with the black police chief and subsequent fallout and current cover up is an indicator of how he would act in office.

Public option is a farce, it will be immediately defanged by the insurgent republicans who have a knack for convincing people to shoot themselves in the knee. Any public option would be undermined into uselessness, and anyone who knows anything about how republicans legislate would know that.
 
Taking money from corporations so that policy is heavily tilted toward the interest of corporations rather than the interest of the American people. At least that's the definition I'm using.

He sure does have some billionaire donors.

And he's no populist.
 
It is for two main reasons: He is for public option and he isn’t as anti-interventionism as Gabbard or Bernie. I don’t agree with Pete on everything, but I understand his pragmatism over idealism.

I also understand that Mayor Pete was for M4A before he started getting Corporate Bucks from health care executives.
 
Um, no. Have you looked into the South Bend issues? Are you comfortable with Mayor Pete after examining them?


You talking about the demotion of the sheriff for illegally recording fellow officers? I saw nothing wrong with that action.
 
You talking about the demotion of the sheriff for illegally recording fellow officers? I saw nothing wrong with that action.

So basically you haven't examined the issue whatsoever.



Mayor Pete can clear up the issue by releasing the tapes.
 
Pete has issues. What happened with the black police chief and subsequent fallout and current cover up is an indicator of how he would act in office.

Pete’s decision was not a popular one in his community but it was the right one.

Public option is a farce, it will be immediately defanged by the insurgent republicans who have a knack for convincing people to shoot themselves in the knee. Any public option would be undermined into uselessness, and anyone who knows anything about how republicans legislate would know that.

As far as I understand it, Pete is not proposing the public option as an end goal in health care but as a bridge.
 
Pete’s decision was not a popular one in his community but it was the right one.



As far as I understand it, Pete is not proposing the public option as an end goal in health care but as a bridge.

A bridge with no support; and thats the issue. It will immediately be litigated endlessly and rendered toothless.

The primary problem now is the extremes. And granted, I am voting for the extreme, so I am part of the issue here. The problem is, no matter who gets into office, anything they do will just be undone, unless a truce is brokered between the left and right.
 
So basically you haven't examined the issue whatsoever.



Mayor Pete can clear up the issue by releasing the tapes.



I am not giving TYT my click. Why don’t you tell me what I supposedly got wrong.
 
Support... financial support? Voter support? Legislator support?...

Legal support. The republicans will undermine and ultimately destroy it. Like they did with the ACA.
 
Legal support. The republicans will undermine and ultimately destroy it. Like they did with the ACA.

That could be an argument to oppose just about anything.
 
I am not giving TYT my click. Why don’t you tell me what I supposedly got wrong.

Nope, it's all laid out in the video. With quotes and sourcing from legit investigative journalism. That TYT work is actually being used for the official investigation. So if you don't want to look, that's on you.
 
Back
Top Bottom