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Why didn't Obama call negative coverage the White Devil News?

AlbqOwl said:
I do leave them to wallow in their own misery and dishonesty.

But we also have to keep putting the truth out there or they win. They may win anyway, but honorable people must resist that kind of hatred and dishonesty and don't lose hope that the truth will prevail.
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I agree with putting the truth out there...I love that you are invested like I am in shooting down their lies while using factual information.

Here's some truth many TD sufferers keep forgetting. They confuse their own opinion wrapped in hurt feelings for the truth....'if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.'
 
trixare4kids said:
I agree with putting the truth out there...I love that you are invested like I am in shooting down their lies while using factual information.

Here's some truth many TD sufferers keep forgetting. They confuse their own opinion wrapped in hurt feelings for the truth....'if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.'
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:lol:

You think this problem solely impacts the Left? hehe... Interestink. ;)
 
OlNate said:
:lol:

You think this problem solely impacts the Left? hehe... Interestink. ;)
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People who voted or support Trump don't have hurt feelings.
You might want to read for context, my friend. ;)
 
trixare4kids said:
People who voted or support Trump don't have hurt feelings.
You might want to read for context, my friend. ;)
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You sure about that? You guys do spend an awful lot of time pouting about the fact that the majority of your fellow citizens rejected him, then (popular vote) and now (approval ratings)... ;)

Tag, you're it. :lol:
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Rising Sun said:
Gaugingcatenate said:
Were those fellow Americans lying to the American people and the world on a constant basis, influencing them in devious ways to gain power for the corrupt?

Yes. Then with yes, those fellow Americans and corporate entities ARE enemies of the people.

We clear?
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No, they weren't. To claim that someone is a liar just because they responded to an early morning Tweet isn't truth.

So what do you plan on doing about all of these "enemies"?
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Who said they only did such as that? Come on, surely you keep up with the flow of current events better than that, right?
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You are not required to answer the question on why you think they are all enemies, but keep in mind anyone who is paying attention notices when you don't reply to questions except with more questions.

You asked if you were clear and, I apologize if my question wasn't clear enough, asked you a question about your comment. You didn't answer. Why?
 
Rising Sun said:
You are not required to answer the question on why you think they are all enemies, but keep in mind anyone who is paying attention notices when you don't reply to questions except with more questions.

You asked if you were clear and, I apologize if my question wasn't clear enough, asked you a question about your comment. You didn't answer. Why?
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Yours was a rhetorical so ignorable question. The enemies of the people? I know what I do with them, read them then disprove them to the blind, mainly the voluntarily blind.

Now, answer my questions.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Yours was a rhetorical so ignorable question. The enemies of the people? I know what I do with them, read them then disprove them to the blind, mainly the voluntarily blind.

Now, answer my questions.
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No, it wasn't, but obviously you don't want to answer. I have no idea what the bolded part of your post means. To me, it's nonsensical.
 
Rising Sun said:
No, it wasn't, but obviously you don't want to answer. I have no idea what the bolded part of your post means. To me, it's nonsensical.
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Jesus, the amount of hand holding one must do around here...

Here, let me help you. You see, with our enemies of the people, the fake news press, I read/listen to them and then go out to all the fools fooled by them and try to help them overcome their voluntary blindness.

If you need it dumbed down any more than that, my condolences.
 
Funny to see all the old conservative white men that still have "Obama" up their ass...LOL
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Jesus, the amount of hand holding one must do around here....
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Seriously? You truly believe this sentence makes sense?: "I know what I do with them, read them then disprove them to the blind, mainly the voluntarily blind."

The fact you became angered and insulting over a question is interesting, but also tells me you have no intention of discussing this issue cooly, logically and maturely. Have a nice day, sir.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
I said, my bad... what do you want, a medal?

And you folks jump on a single mistake in order to ignore what slenderman actually did to reporters/journalists. I get it.
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I posted that before you said "my bad".

At least you owned up to it, rather sheepishly I might add.
 
trixare4kids said:
You got that right... he was totally thin-skinned when it came to the conservative leaning outlets, particularly Fox News.
Even Fact check called him out on his fake pretense, respect for the free press.

Interesting read:
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/09/obama-fox-news-and-the-free-press/
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And they picked up some of the worst of it as to Obama's opinion of any other than the fawning leftist press he mostly had, but the Obama administration just didn't insult a press deserving of insult, it actually went after those they didn't like.

(CBS News) Court documents released this week show the Obama administration secretly monitored a Washington journalist. In seeking a search warrant, the FBI called Fox News' James Rosen a "criminal co-conspirator," even though he isn't charged with any crime.

These revelations have set off a firestorm of criticism from the left and right, CBS News' Jan Crawford reports. For the first time ever, a presidential administration is treating news reporting like a crime, and a reporter like a criminal suspect. . .​
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fox-ne...ored-by-obama-administration-court-documents/

The Shery Attkinsson scandal:
https://www.wnd.com/2017/03/superstar-reporter-describes-obamas-creepy-spying-on-her/


The IRS scandal that wasn't exactly media but was close to it and the AP phone records scandal:
. . .The IRS's targeting of conservative 501(c)(4) groups certainly seems to have the most resonance with the electorate, already petrified of the powerful agency, and the administration admits that of the three, this is the one that has them equally outraged.

But the third scandal, the revelation that the Department of Justice secretly subpoenaed the private phone records of several Associated Press reporters and editors in the wake of a terrorist plot leak, is the cloudiest in terms of its political repercussions and its impact on average Americans. . .​
https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ap-scandal-scary-article-1.1349443

So what is more evil? The President complaining about media he doesn't appreciate or like? (Trump)

Or an Administration that actually targets, illegally uses government power in to investigate/harrass, and actively punishes those it doesn't appreciate or like? (Obama)
 
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Rising Sun said:
Seriously? You truly believe this sentence makes sense?: "I know what I do with them, read them then disprove them to the blind, mainly the voluntarily blind."

The fact you became angered and insulting over a question is interesting, but also tells me you have no intention of discussing this issue cooly, logically and maturely. Have a nice day, sir.
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Bubba, its only insulting to those who fall into the category fully worth insulting... and you are placing yourself squarely, voluntarily, amongst the insulted.

I know the sentence makes sense because it is in response to this posted sentence/question specifically from you:

Rising Sun said:
So what do you plan on doing about all of these "enemies"?
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To which I aptly, accurately replied, "I know what I do with them, read them then disprove them to the blind, mainly the voluntarily blind."

Are you now going to try to have me re-explain it to you? Certainly was not overly nuanced, pretty direct tho you do have to have the ability to read a bit between the lines, make some accurate assessments, which you kinda did. That you go out of your way to say you are the subject of an independent riposte describing an idiotic position, is again, totally your call.

Personally, I agree with your call.
 
roughdraft274 said:
I posted that before you said "my bad".

At least you owned up to it, rather sheepishly I might add.
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So now what, looking for even another medal?

I had not noticed the poster who originally indicated the banning of Fox. Admitted it without hesitation and of which needed no undue fanfare. I even didn't press, pretty much let drop the fact that nobody on your side had a real answer to slenderman illegally spying on Fox news Jim Rosen and parents... or Former CBS News anchor / investigative journalist, Sharyl Attkinson.

But since you want to harp, how about that in comparison to Trumps calling the constantly lying and fabricating fake news media what they actually are, the enemies of the American people. The MSM in the aggregate far outweighs Trump's misstatements even if everything he says were ALL lies.

And you never got within the same continent close to being at least sheepish about ignoring the difference. Far under-reported the egregious breach in the law by slendermans executive branch against journalists... and that of Trump calling those culprits in the media just what they are... and not ever backing down.

Go Don. MAGA
 
AlbqOwl said:
More than 60 million people disagreed with you, and I suspect more than 60 million people disagree with you now.
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Disagree with me about what?

- That Obama is, in fact, an American-born natural citizen?

- That Trump created his own mess and persists on feeding the media, the bulk of the political spectrum, and the wider world its criticism of him?

The fact that "60 million" people see a hero in this moron is sad enough, without creating a fantasy world where Trump is a victim. And let's not forget, Trump's loyalists also argued that tomato paste was a vegetable, that Global Warming was a liberal hoax (Trump told them that it as a Chinese hoax), clung to "birther" conspiracies as a political argument, and that Trump saved us all from nuclear war over North Korea, which continues to build new rocket technology. So, I wouldn't put too much faith in the intelligence and rationality of these "60 million" people who may disagree with reality.
 
Winston said:
How would you of felt if Obama constantly berated negative coverage as the White Devil news?
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What negative coverage.
They said he was a God.
I have three pics where they implied and said so outright.
 
AlbqOwl said:
At this point in their Presidencies, President Trump's approval ratings are higher than President Obama's approval ratings. So you won't impress me with polls. Approval or disapproval of their policies and/or initiatives is fair game for debate.
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Actually, not really. Trump's approval is currently at 43.3%, which is about as high as it has ever been.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

The low point in Obama's first term was 42.7%. It was at 45.7% at the 2010 mid-terms. If you want to compare Trump's high point to Obama's low point and call it a win; well, have it at, but think through what you are saying.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html.

AlbqOwl said:
Unmitigated hatred and attempts to destroy a person personally is simply evil regardless of political registration.
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I have no idea what you are trying to say here, but it sounds weak. It implies that our poor, little innocent president has been misunderstood and unduly ridiculed by an insensitive press. If that is what you are trying to say, its pathetic. It implies a normal man in the White House that is just trying to do his job and is not being given a fair chance. Thinking that would be a fatal departure from reality.

It is the job of the POTUS to run an effective public relations operation. If he is "misunderstood", its because of the ineffectiveness of his message or his press. In Trump's case, he has further shortcomings because he is a thin-skinned, narcissist that can not take criticism nor ownership of things that go wrong. Both are essential attributes of an effective president. On the flip side, one of the main responsibilities of the press is to fact check on statements and reality check on policy. When you operate with a reckless disregard for truth, as Trump does, and fail to do your homework on policy (because he is ignorant and lazy) you are going to get called out, which he does often. When Trump gets called out, rather than back down in grace, he doubles down in anger and acrimony, which just makes the problem worst.

Sorry, but this poor 'lil ole Donny argument is feeble and devoid of any sense of political astuteness on your part, if this is what you are trying say. Trump's problems with the press are his doing. He is the President of the United States. He is suppose to set the tone and be above the fray. His mismanagement of the public relations function of the White House is just another one of his grave failings for which he has only himself to blame. Don't carry his water, it hurts your credibility as a poster.
 
trixare4kids said:
The Monmouth Poll wasn't particularly favorable to Obama getting a second term either... Oh, and look what happened. Obama proved Monmouth wrong.
I wouldn't put too much faith in this one poll, my friend.


https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_nj_101611/
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That is true, except Obama won in a landslide in his first election (almost 10,000,000 votes) and had a pronounced downtick in his second (5,000,000 votes). Trump barely won in his first election (lost popular vote by 3,000,000 votes; won three states by total of 80,000 votes). Trump has no margin to work with, has done nothing to expand his base, currently has 58% of the population that wants a new president in 2021, took huge hits at the polls in WI, MI and PA. He has no apparent path to victory and no margin to absorb the typical downtick in votes a POTUS gets from one election to the re-election.

If the Cons were smart, and I don't think they are, they would get rid of Trump through impeachment and set Pence up to run as an incumbent.
 
Winston said:
How would you of felt if Obama constantly berated negative coverage as the White Devil news?
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Oh please. the republicans went beserk when President Obama wore a tan suit. They wanted to impeach him for not wearing a flag pin. They complained about EVERYTHING President Obama did or didn't do. I remember them screeching when President Obama took a few days off to attend his grandmother's FUNERAL. The republicans demanded he stay in the whitehouse and fix the mess that dubya caused and never venture out until it was all fixed. trump went on vacation the minute the inauguration was over. He promised he wouldn't take so many vacations and play so much golf and he broke that promise MINUTES after he was sworn in. And the republicans have no problem with this. But President Obama drinking a beer had them screeching.
 
Winston said:
How would you of felt if Obama constantly berated negative coverage as the White Devil news?
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Are you asking why he didn't use those specific words?
 
Rising Sun said:
An excellent point, but Obama still had more class about it than Trump even though both are hostile to the free press.
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So yes he did it, but he was nicer about it?

Is that your point here?
 
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